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iRON-mAn dijo:
Oh I don't disagree with any of that. It's absolutely sub-par storytelling. My only point is that if people are trying to push this 'love or fear' dichotomy as being a superior trigger to the bells, they're deluding themselves. Both are reflective of terrible writing by D&D with an utter disregard of everything that came before that simply underlines the fact that the showrunners just don't care anymore.
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What I wanted to convey, probably failing to as I tried to keep it short, is that if you squint you kinda can see what they were aiming for with the bell beat. You kinda see the character's beats for Daenerys. It is not a complete asspull.
But, although it is not the worst D&D have produced thus far, it is disjointed, halting and rushed at the same time, with a spitball wall quality to it with a bunch of possible partial explanations (it's the madness! The grief for the brown bff! For the dragon(s)! For Jorah! She fears the betrayals! She's been spurned by Jon and now she's angry! She's realizing now the hollowness of her lifelong mission! etc...), one of wich hopefully will stick. It surely is more or less organic when considering maybe this season's episodes?

BUT there is a fine difference between "no planning for the character" and "poor execution of some planing for the character". To me you seem to lean on the former, while I go for the latter. It is basically arguing semantic at this point, I fear 😅 Maybe is what people say re: The Last Jedi in the Star Wars thread, that the storytelling is so sparse it becomes some negative space that only has sense because the audience unconsciously fills the blanks with their own speculations, and of course, everyone being enamoured with their own ideas, they end up liking the hybrid between the movie/series and their own canon...
 
As a Cersei fan, I can at least smile at this. All hail Lena Headey:

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I really would love the backstory of why Bronn and Cercei's actors hate one another so damn much. Then we can take sides and make it about sexism and it'll be like Skyler from breaking bad all over again!

StarkRavingMad dijo:
As a Cersei fan, I can at least smile at this. All hail Lena Headey:

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I can never keep track of whether we're supposed to be mad at people getting a shitload of money for little work or happy for them.
 
Corbin Dallas Multipass dijo:
I can never keep track of whether we're supposed to be mad at people getting a shitload of money for little work or happy for them.
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Mad that there’s a system that allows it while there’s kids starving in Alabama (while Michael Bay gets to keep making movies!) but respect the people that are able to game the system for their benefit. Don’t hate the player and all that.
 
Even people at work hated this episode and they've been loving this season up until now. We spent our entire lunchbreak tearing the episode apart. It was great fun. At least if the final episode's as big a disaster as everyone's saying it will be (I'm almost certain there's no way they can pull a rabbit out of the hat on this one, but we'll see), at least we can go Mystery Science Theatre 3000 on it.
 
well that episode was..... something. What a fucking waste of the golden company, Grey worm still suck (I love killing soldiers that have given up because they killed my gf I couldn't even fuck) and Jaime death was lame. LAME. On the plus side, I liked seeing Dany going full "fuck this shit, I am pissed off and have a dragon fuck you" mod. Clarke was really good in this episode and parts of the episode looked amazing.
Seing Gregorstein with the sword through him and with the dust light behind him looked great.
 
Several episodes late, but I'm not sure that I've seen anyone take note of this: how did Dany not remember that Jamie tried to kill her in season 7? I rewatched the scene in which she questions him at Winterfell, and she didn't bring it up at all. Just another example showing that these scripts probably weren't even proofread a single time.
 
Grand Lunar dijo:
Several episodes late, but I'm not sure that I've seen anyone take note of this: how did Dany not remember that Jamie tried to kill her in season 7? I rewatched the scene in which she questions him at Winterfell, and she didn't bring it up at all. Just another example showing that these scripts probably weren't even proofread a single time.
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I’m having trouble remembering that scene where he rushed her, did she even get a good look at him before Bronn saved his ass?
 
ProgKing of the North dijo:
I’m having trouble remembering that scene where he rushed her, did she even get a good look at him before Bronn saved his ass?
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Pretty sure she didn't even turn around until a few seconds before Bronn tackled him into the Blackwater Rush. I can buy she never realized that was Jaime, given she'd never met him and the total chaos of the battlefield.
 
Mola Ram dijo:
Pretty sure she didn't even turn around until a few seconds before Bronn tackled him into the Blackwater Rush. I can buy she never realized that was Jaime, given she'd never met him and the total chaos of the battlefield.
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That's certainly plausible, but this is Daenerys that we're talking about . She still presumably got a look at his face during a very intense moment, and it's not like her to forget something like that.

Regardless, I do think that the real reason that it wasn't brought up was because the episode writer just forgot, not because it was rationalized that she didn't get a good look at his face or didn't recognize it.
 
Grand Lunar dijo:
That's certainly plausible, but this is Daenerys that we're talking about . She still presumably got a look at his face during a very intense moment, and it's not like her to forget something like that.

Regardless, I do think that the real reason that it wasn't brought up was because the episode writer just forgot, not because it was rationalized that she didn't get a good look at his face or didn't recognize it.
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I really think it could have gone either way, but really, the avalanche of carelessness that's been the hallmark of the last two seasons argues in favor of your point.
 
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