Final Fantasy XIV - Kiwi Free Company

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Oh, fuck those people. Does AV just attract shitters lately or something? I had a group of retards that kept trying to pull ahead of me one of the last times I was in there as well, so I just let a couple of their faggot asses drop before establishing aggro. I can easily wall to wall with the best of them, but I'm not gonna tolerate Mentor crown-wearing shitters acting like little pissants, especially if there's a sprout or two in the same party.

It sounds like you were dealing with exactly the sort of crybaby tryhards I was talking about. If they were proudly wearing their Burger King crowns next to their names, and especially if they were sporting any "Legend" titles, you should completely disregard their bullshit.

You don't even need to watch a video to figure out dungeon, the fuck? Tell your husband to stop being a retarded healer and get his shit together.

That's reassuring... I'm used to the salty culture in other games, but outside of a few dungeons FF14 has been really open and kind (excluding the bots/erp) Since this is the first game I'm playing tank in I just assumed it's legit crit after my husband's comment. I know is some other games you need the dps to run ahead and drag mobs to you, but I am doing this blind cause trying to avoid spoilers from an older game... I really don't expect him to be a good healer, he's normally the tank and I'm the healer in other MMO's but I haven't gotten passed the RR MSQ stuff yet. I'm playing catch up to his BK crown. I'll just try running it another time and queue up for Thornmarch.
 
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That's reassuring... I'm used to the salty culture in other games, but outside of a few dungeons FF14 has been really open and kind (excluding the bots/erp) Since this is the first game I'm playing tank in I just assumed it's legit crit after my husband's comment. I really don't expect him to be a good healer, he's normally the tank and I'm the healer in other MMO's but I haven't gotten passed the RR MSQ stuff yet. I'm playing catch up to his BK crown. I'll just try running it another time and queue up for Thornmarch.
Thornmarch is pretty simple as a Tank. Just tank and spank the initial Moogles that you can (some of them don't have an aggro table, so you just focus on holding the ones that'll stay on you). Then, when the King comes out, one Tank takes the King and one of the tank moogles (usually the sword/shield one) and pulls them to one side of the arena while the other Tank takes the axe moogle and holds him apart from the other ones. Everyone else just does cleanup on all the rest and you save killing the King last.

At least that's how it went before all the fight rebalances. I'm not sure how it plays out now, but it's most likely even easier than it was before.
 
At least that's how it went before all the fight rebalances. I'm not sure how it plays out now, but it's most likely even easier than it was before.
Pretty much. Reworked Thornmarch doesn't dump in all the adds at once anymore in phase 2. They basically function as the king's summons and they teach sprouts about mechanics like double tank busters and meteor soaks.

Regarding dungeon guides: I was going to mention at first that the ffxiv wiki has text guides for everything and also links to video guides but then I took a look at the aurum vale one and realised that most of the video guides are going to be very old. Honestly I agree that people who give a sprout tank a hard time in a dungeon are just assholes who need to get a grip. If you sign up for a roulette you should be fully prepared to be patient with someone who genuinely just wants to learn. You can start getting spicy if the person actively ignores good advice.
 
If it's casual 8-mans or 24-man raids, let someone else Main Tank and learn as you go along.
I tried Warrior and have been playing it through Heavensward and this was my plan going into Ravana. Little did I know, I qued with a sprout even more apprehensive about tackling the boss than I was. Oh well, I guess I'm main tank now.

It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be either. His cleaves and normal attacks did little damage. Just dodge the dodgeables, cycle through cooldowns ensuring you're buffed with literally anything as much as possible and keep the boss turned away from everyone else but not too close to the walls.

I remembered it being harder last year when I played as a dps. Clearing the boss on the first attempt with no deaths did a lot to inspire confidence.

Finally made it to PLD last night and decided I'm avoiding Duty Finder and Raid Finder until I get rotations down

I've actually made it a point while leveling to run and rerun dungeons with NPCs till I had the entire armor set/weapon from the dungeon I was in for both leveling, and, more importantly, practice. While playing with other players is an experience in of itself and is much faster than with NPCs, it also deprives you of practice in managing cooldowns and practicing your rotations in extended fights. It's not entirely a waste of time rerunning the dungeons for gear either because the green drops you get for other jobs can be sold to your Grand Company Quartermaster for company seals. When you can get to the current max rank in your Grand Company, you can turn those extra dungeons runs into either these or these.

I'm taking a short break at the moment to play Advance Wars Reboot Camp but I've been logging in once a day to do Retainer Ventures and Squadron missions. The extra dungeon runs have funded a good few weeks of these.
 
Finally made it to PLD last night and decided I'm avoiding Duty Finder and Raid Finder until I get rotations down
Unless you mean that you hit 90 on Paladin, you have no rotations on Paladin until 70-90.

Even then, PLD's rotation is stupidly easy, and it's probably been dumbed down even harder since the last PLD nerf. You just cycle between Requiescat for your spell combos, and Fight or Flight for your weaponskill combos. That's about it.
 
Lol reading about the tank anxiety in this thread is a giggle. Let me assure you that tanking normal content in this game is honestly very easy. If you know how to use your AOE rotation, know how to pull aggro if it's somehow lost and know what your tank cooldowns are, you're already better than like 95% of the mouthbreathers playing tanks. That's in addition to simple shit like not standing in fire.

Savage tanking, of course, is completely different and does require you to know the mechanics of the fight, but what savage content doesnt.

EDIT: 'member when GLD/PLD only had Flash for an AOE aggro? I remember.
 
EDIT: 'member when GLD/PLD only had Flash for an AOE aggro? I remember.
I still remember when I had to cross-class Flash onto Warrior so I could have an AoE aggro option that didn't involve bleeding my TP gauge dry.

Sometimes I miss being able to joke, "What's MP? Oh, that thing I use for Flash? Yeah, my Flash meter's pretty cool."
 
Unless you mean that you hit 90 on Paladin, you have no rotations on Paladin until 70-90.

Even then, PLD's rotation is stupidly easy, and it's probably been dumbed down even harder since the last PLD nerf. You just cycle between Requiescat for your spell combos, and Fight or Flight for your weaponskill combos. That's about it.
God I wish I hit 90 PLD. I started a new character and finally changed my Gladiator to Paladin

Then, no. You practically have no rotations and you will not have them for a long while.

All you will have for the longest time is your basic bitch combo and your AoE combo. Get used to it. Paladin is very boring to play below 70.

Let me give you the full breakdown for what you do for dungeons:

Pull mobs and spam your AoE combo. Be sure to cycle your defense CDs.

Spam your basic bitch combo on single target bosses. Cycle Fight or Flight for more damage.

That's it. That's how you play Paladin below 70.
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God I wish I hit 90 PLD. I started a new character and finally changed my Gladiator to Paladin
Then, no. You practically have no rotations and you will not have them for a long while.

All you will have for the longest time is your basic bitch combo and your AoE combo. Get used to it. Paladin is very boring to play below 70.

Let me give you the full breakdown for what you do for dungeons:

Pull mobs and spam your AoE combo. Be sure to cycle your defense CDs.

Spam your basic bitch combo on single target bosses. Cycle Fight or Flight for more damage.

That's it. That's how you play Paladin below 70.
 
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Aurum Vale, and getting yelled at by the dps for not pulling the mobs off them while they keep running ahead of me and dragging mobs in from the area then bitching at me for not agro pulling everything. Since you guys were talking about it I figured I should ask for a guide post patch. My husband who was being a extremely distracted healer told me to just go watch a video despite letting us wipe. Just demoralized and kinda not having fun now...
They were definitely a bad dps if they aren't dragging the mobs to you. If you haven't done Dzamael Darkhold yet, all you need to remember is not to do big pulls there. After that, it's smoother sailing.
Oh, fuck those people. Does AV just attract shitters lately or something? I had a group of retards that kept trying to pull ahead of me one of the last times I was in there as well, so I just let a couple of their faggot asses drop before establishing aggro. I can easily wall to wall with the best of them, but I'm not gonna tolerate Mentor crown-wearing shitters acting like little pissants, especially if there's a sprout or two in the same party.

It sounds like you were dealing with exactly the sort of crybaby tryhards I was talking about. If they were proudly wearing their Burger King crowns next to their names, and especially if they were sporting any "Legend" titles, you should completely disregard their bullshit.

You don't even need to watch a video to figure out dungeon, the fuck? Tell your husband to stop being a retarded healer and get his shit together.
Lately? I always thought AV and DD brought out the worst in people.
 
Lol reading about the tank anxiety in this thread is a giggle. Let me assure you that tanking normal content in this game is honestly very easy.
I've actually come to like it more than than DPS in the little time I've done it. I don't know if it's the simpler combos or Warrior's Critical+Direct Hit Fell Cleave unga bunga numbers pleasing my monkey brain but something about it is drawing me. The job doesn't really feel that much weaker than when I played Bard either.
 
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What's a good resource or youtube channel with updated vids for dungeon runs I should be watching as a newb tank. I'm tired of getting yelled at to go watch a raid video as a sprout for wanting to experience dungeons blind.
Miss Tec (MTQ) on Youtube does guides that are pretty bare bones and straightforward.

I also use the console games wiki if I'm running a dungeon for the first time.

Some advice for tanking:

- Use your cooldowns and mitigations for trash pulls, not for bosses. This is something people from other MMOs carry over and it can be a bit of a misconception.
- Pull as much as you're comfortable with. Aurum Vale is a good example of one of the dungeons where babysitting retards might take precedence over w2wing. The first room, you can pull, hug left wall and go into the sorta wider circular area to tank shit (up to the mushroom dudes.) Then pull the rest by going into the boss room and hugging the wall, which leads me to
- Line of sight pulling can be helpful (and can get your healers malding) to corral up mobs. Any sort of wall/obstruction will cause mobs to stop casting/attacking from a distance until they can see you. This also applies to healers, so it can be a good way to get idiots to stop gawking in a no-no zone and force them to where you want them
- Understand that most dungeon mobs aggro off of proximity (imagine a big circle around them and if you step into it, they get pissed), but there are some (particularly in ARR/HW dungeons) which aggro off sound (toggling walk will make it so they won't aggro...those daddy long leg mobs in Temple of Qarn are a good example) or sight (mobs have a big cone that starts narrow and widens out.) A lot of people think that mobs are sight aggro and end up triggering mobs because they are retards.
- Let people know you're new to the dungeon. Or if you split up a w2w pull because you aren't sure or are unfamiliar with the layout, just reiterate that. Most folks won't get pissy if you're trying to pull heavy.
- There are a few dungeons I would suggest being a bit careful on. First pull of Hullbreaker Isle (there are hornets that cast Final Sting and invariably you'll get hit by one of them, I tend to split the first pull up into 2 pulls due to DPS mistrust), first pull of Brayflox (there is an Ochu mob that casts an AE silence and no matter if you warn/heads up the healer, they will inevitably stand right on top of the fucker if you w2w the first room, first pull of Pharos Sirius (there's some caster mobs and it's the first 'long' pull, and healers struggle for whatever fucking reason. Go for it if you trust your healer), first 2 pulls of Bardam's Mettle (as discussed upthread), Holminster Switch (it can be a meat grinder if healer is a dumbass) and Mt. Gulg (same thing.)

Those are just dungeons I've experienced issues w2wing on because either DPS is shite or the healer is pants on head retarded. If you have competent party members, they're more or less fine, outside of maybe Gulg still being a bit spicy. But if you're asking for help at that stage, there's prolly bigger issues.
 
Is it autistic that I want to punch that Vtuber model? It has a really punchable face.
Not at all.
I really dislike Vtuber models in general because while yeah it hides your real face so any ugly person can look good in front of their audience, most of the time the movements and facial expressions look very static and limited, and thus can't compare to seeing livecam reactions of people chimping out.

Speaking of Jo, that Omega Ultimate project's apparently been on hold and I don't want to even know why, just quickly skimmed through the VOD because I hate seeing his Twitch content on display as is.
 
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