Euphoric Christian Fatigue Thread

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Who is (was) more annoying - Euphoric Atheists or Euphoric Christians?


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My main contention with ChristLARPs is they’re a victim of post-modernism. They can’t even reconcile with all the contradictions of their beliefs, just that they need to BELIIIIIIIIEVE because the concept of belief itself is a virtue. They’ll even cite studies showing how faith makes for healthier lives. Like, congratulations, nigga- you’re a chaos magician. You’re just playing with paradigms.
I think it would help if people divorced the concept of thinking there is a god or divinity of some kind (pretty much default opinion across mankind) from that of following an actual creed where they are held to its standards by their peers.
 
One of the stupidest aspects of "pick and choose" religion is the idea that (you) have the judgement to decide which one is correct.
Sometimes you do though. I think it's definitely not for everyone as most people aren't as thoughtful about their own beliefs, but if you are it's perfectly reasonable. I've been undergoing a sort of growth period where I've had to come to terms with the fact that I'm more abnormal than just being a weirdo freak autist and I think this is one of the areas where I'm built different. I tend to resist that idea because it sounds so arrogant.

Besides, at the end of the day you only have your judgement to trust. It's entirely up to your judgement as to whether or not Christianity, Islam, Shinto, Paganism, Atheism, etc. are worthwhile philosophies to follow wholeheartedly. And even then, people still exercise their judgement in these areas as one's personal values may end up interfering in their religion, ergo all the sects and schisms.
You end up just going with[...]one that matches your values.
If your values are that strong I think you have no need of religion to begin with. At that point you've established who you are and what you believe in.
I think it would help if people divorced the concept of thinking there is a god or divinity of some kind (pretty much default opinion across mankind) from that of following an actual creed where they are held to its standards by their peers.
I think there's a problem with the personification of deities that fucks people up. Gods are essentially anthropomorphized ideals, so when a lot of people dedicate themselves to Jesus Christ they're dedicating themselves the way they might to a living emperor or king rather than the higher ideal he is meant to represent. When you dedicate yourself to a person you have this tendency to bend and sway with the wind in order to justify and defend that person's honor the way a loyal retainer might. In this way, their faith is so strong that it makes their morals weak. But when you dedicate yourself to an ideal... it's an ideal, your concern isn't with justifying it by proclaiming its greatness and bowing and scraping to it, your concern is with living up to it the best that you believe you can.
 
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If your values are that strong I think you have no need of religion to begin with. At that point you've established who you are and what you believe in.
I think if you need religion to dictate right and wrong to you, and you can't just look at reality as it is and determine what is right and what isn't, you are an NPC.
 
Euphoric atheists were one of the first vectors for modern liberalism to be injected into popular culture, so I hate them more than tradcath LARPers for that than anything else.

Tradcath LARPers are just more annoying because they obviously don’t believe the ideology they espouse. If they did, they wouldn’t spend all their time randomly attacking people on Twitter.
 
To be fair this could be because Orthodox Christian’s are a very, very small religious minority in the US and so many people here have either never heard of them or know nothing about them. But I do agree that there’s almost this intentional misunderstanding of Marian veneration and it would be fine if that theological disagreement was actually handled honestly, but many choose instead to just say “hurr durr worship!”
Because it is worship.

The whole premise of “veneration” is a sleight of hand where you just take the same behavior as worship, redefine it to not be worship, then declare victory. It still involves prayers, offerings, shrines, miracles, all of the stuff of worshipping a god. The real test is what non-Christians take it as and they look at it and say “yep, that’s worshipping as a minor god.”

I hear people compare it to asking a friend to pray for you, but I’ve never known a friend that needed me to light a candle for him or say “Hail Jimmy full of grace” fifty times for the prayer to work. Almost as if… the Saint is the point.
 
Euphoric atheists were one of the first vectors for modern liberalism to be injected into popular culture, so I hate them more than tradcath LARPers for that than anything else.

Tradcath LARPers are just more annoying because they obviously don’t believe the ideology they espouse. If they did, they wouldn’t spend all their time randomly attacking people on Twitter.
The atheist equivalent would be the weird leftoids who always criticise Christianity but never any other religion, especially Islam.

They are obviously still atheists (because how can you pretend to not believe in God?), but if their principles state that the world is better off without religion, why defend certain religions still?
 
Alot of Reddit tier arguments here. Shameful displays.
>doesn't say which ones
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The atheist equivalent would be the weird leftoids who always criticise Christianity but never any other religion, especially Islam.

They are obviously still atheists (because how can you pretend to not believe in God?), but if their principles state that the world is better off without religion, why defend certain religions still?
I'd argue that it's because most of those people live in the West where Christianity is and has been kind of a big deal, so there's more exposure to it. If the USA since its inception had somehow been an Islamic country and Islam had undergone a more moderate reformation not unlike Christianity has I imagine you'd see the exact same thing. Also many of those people are leftists who buy into the progressive stack bullshit and western culture is evil yadda yadda.

Besides, I'm an atheist and I think religion has a purpose. I just don't believe in a living god or the supernatural.
 
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The atheist equivalent would be the weird leftoids who always criticise Christianity but never any other religion, especially Islam.

They are obviously still atheists (because how can you pretend to not believe in God?), but if their principles state that the world is better off without religion, why defend certain religions still?
That is also a religion and the same people behind the Knights Templar are behind it.

It marks all of the boxes of a religion, and an Abrahamic Religion at that.

There's an object of worship, there are regulations, there is collective guilt-tripping and its practitioners will try to utterly obliterate you if you step even so slightly across the line

Besides, I'm an atheist and I think religion has a purpose
You can't literally believe in nothing so there's that. If you don't worship god then you still need to have something like anime, comic books, movies etc to latch onto as a guide. So at the end there will be people who claim that there is no god and then they flip back and fall into the same scam by worshiping things like Hitler or transexuals.
 
That is also a religion and the same people behind the Knights Templar are behind it.

It marks all of the boxes of a religion, and an Abrahamic Religion at that.

There's an object of worship, there are regulations, there is collective guilt-tripping and its practitioners will try to utterly obliterate you if you step even so slightly across the line


You can't literally believe in nothing so there's that. If you don't worship god then you still need to have something like anime, comic books, movies etc to latch onto as a guide. So at the end there will be people who claim that there is no god and then they flip back and fall into the same scam by worshiping things like Hitler or transexuals.
You're a weird nigger, friend.
 
The worst are the ones that want to fling shit at other Christians because their chosen denomination isn't as BASED as theirs or some other retard sperging. They always intentionally misrepresent or misinterpret things to make something they must think is an actual point in their favor.

I was raised Roman Catholic, went to a Roman Catholic private school for over 8 years, attending mass daily, had a daily Bible study class and went through all the classes leading up to my final confirmation. I was never once told or taught that Mary was equivalent to God. I have no idea where that retard shit comes from, but I was taught the holy trinity, which she isn't apart of. Nor was I ever taught to pray to Mary as if she was God, only to pray to her as an intermediary to God. This is no different then Orthodox Christians praying to her or the various saints, it's a near identical spiritual practice but only Catholics get shit for it, because the pope hasn't called for a crusade against immigrants in Western nations and loves faggots and trannies or something. Nevermind all the Catholic denominations that have split from the papacy. I have to signal to other non-Catholics how non-Catholic I am like a belligerent retard.

If I were ever to seek to rediscover my faith, I'd likely join something like the Polish National Catholic Church as they are no longer in communion with the Vatican, don't ordain women and will not officiate gay marriages.
Learning a great deal of historical allegations towards Roman Catholic were Protestant allegations and representations because for centuries that was serious business. And these ideas have continued into general misconception - examples I have posted about in another thread is the Spanish Inquisition which has the reputation of inventors of the most creative ways to torture and kill people, but when look at the historical documents (of which there are thousands of kept in good condition), was far overblown in how violent they were (conveniently a lot of the allegations towards them were ones done by secular courts or those far away from the Latin central base - half suspicion, let’s torture then kill them when they confess on a hunch).

I find there is a lot of larp and “return to traditional values” gritting that really have popped up these last 5-10 years. And it’s always the most degenerate people who do this, which we can see from the numerous cows on this site. You aren’t real Christianity/based and trad, now excuse me while I go secretly film myself spreading my legs on video.

All of which, as we know when Christ admonished the Pharisees and then while giving the Lord’s Prayer, explicitly tells us not to make a show of prayer or of our piety. That’s not done sincerely between you and God, that’s done to impress the masses.
 
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