Escaping the United States

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Someone Awful dijo:
I don't see the point in escaping to another country just to escape wokeism. Be real, that's at best a temporary solution. You might not be around it for a little while but eventually, it will come and then what? Are you going to move to a deserted island and try to live as a hermit?

There is no escaping wokeism. If you live in the United States, you should not move unless you absolutely love a different country that much that you want to integrate into it for the rest of your life. We're still the wealthiest country in the world and everywhere else is either,

- Even more woke
- Much worse living standards
- Much more authoritarian

We are going to have to get used to living with it no matter what. You're better off figuring out how to work around the harsh mechanisms that are coming. If you absolutely want to stave it off for a little longer, you can try moving to say, the Appalachian like Syaoran Li said, but if you want a long-term solution for dealing with this, you're going to have to get creative about it.

I also don't think going hermit is a solution, unless again, you decide to move somewhere government will never want to touch like Antarctica. Even working from home like I see a friend of mine propose involves dealing with wokeism.
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Quit the delusion. Woke America means worse living standards and more authoritarianism. If you think the woke is global spreading to every corner, then you'd have a bit of a point. But many would rather downgrade and be hermits to not be miserable than stay to cling to a lifestyle that's dying anyway.
 
brentkanaris dijo:
Quit the delusion. Woke America means worse living standards and more authoritarianism. If you think the woke is global spreading to every corner, then you'd have a bit of a point. But many would rather downgrade and be hermits to not be miserable than stay to cling to a lifestyle that's dying anyway.
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But that's the thing, wokeism is coming everywhere. A lot of people, myself included, used to think that Japan was resistant from this due to its homogeneous population. Now we have Capcom using #BlackLivesMatter as a way to justify sanitizing their contents and HR department are being set up in entertainment industries. If Woke American means decreasing living standards and more authoritarianism, then that also applies to other countries people are fleeing to. Eastern Europe and Southeast Asia are not immuned to this problem because wokeism is a cultural problem, not a racial one.

That's not to say you shouldn't make major changes to your life to be happier, there's a reason why consoom is a meme. But there are better ways to improve your life than outright disassociating from society because even in the future, there will be non-woke people who share similar concerns about where their culture is at and those are people worth getting to know.
 
Someone Awful dijo:
But that's the thing, wokeism is coming everywhere. A lot of people, myself included, used to think that Japan was resistant from this due to its homogeneous population. Now we have Capcom using #BlackLivesMatter as a way to justify sanitizing their contents and HR department are being set up in entertainment industries. If Woke American means decreasing living standards and more authoritarianism, then that also applies to other countries people are fleeing to. Eastern Europe and Southeast Asia are not immuned to this problem because wokeism is a cultural problem, not a racial one.

That's not to say you shouldn't make major changes to your life to be happier, there's a reason why consoom is a meme. But there are better ways to improve your life than outright disassociating from society because even in the future, there will be non-woke people who share similar concerns about where their culture is at and those are people worth getting to know.
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Sometimes the best way to fight against something is stop supporting both sides. Leaving one way. If Op leaves thats less of their economic input keeping the system alive.
 
brentkanaris dijo:
Quit the delusion. Woke America means worse living standards and more authoritarianism. If you think the woke is global spreading to every corner, then you'd have a bit of a point. But many would rather downgrade and be hermits to not be miserable than stay to cling to a lifestyle that's dying anyway.
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Eventually. The events of 2020 was this country getting flushed and we're circling the drain now. I doubt there's any hope for a non-authoritarian America in the future when at best you'll get another Trump who will make a few token efforts to reverse things here and there and not pass anything new. To truly excise the cancer in the US means authoritarianism just aimed at the "bad guys" and America being America it's inevitable a few non-bad guys will be caught up in it and we'll probably sacrifice some freedoms here and there.

So it's a choice of "which sort of authoritarianism do you want to live under?" and I think anyone who hates wokeness would do well to look into Russia or China. Russia might have some issues in the future when Putin dies and they're target no. 1 for the neocons/neolibs in the US, but there's more cultural similarities (shared European heritage), the language is easier, and it's not as filthy and nasty as China (it's more decay than Chinese laziness). It's an interesting and beautiful country and the reason the neocons/neolibs hate Russia so much is because they see modern Russia as leading the charge against globalism like the Soviets led the charge against capitalism.

China is a rising superpower, there's lots of jobs for whites, and is not likely to have a war with the US since the globalists are making big bucks off Chinese capitalism. Yeah their culture and society is shit (I've heard nothing good about Americans/Europeans who have to deal with Chinese businesses/government), the government is even more totalitarian than Russia, and you're likely to have your life fucked up by their utter lack of quality control (be it food, building codes, pollution, or disease research institutes) but it's guaranteed to be the number two or dare I say NUMBAH WAN country in a few decades simply because of economics and their vast network of spies in businesses and governments worldwide. No better place to be during the Second American Civil War than in a shiny Shanghai apartment looking at CCP-created Weibo memes.
 
Someone Awful dijo:
east Asia are
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Someone Awful dijo:
because wokeism is a cultural problem, not a racial one.
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if it's not a racial problem how come only white people are woke?

This entire thread is American cope. You're no longer a democracy, you're fat, you're ugly, your people are stupid, 9/11 was good, and now you're cowards. Americans are like animals that deserve to be killed
 
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Odnovo dijo:
I doubt that America is going to become fully WOKE. That hivemind shit only works in the cities, depends on a thriving economy (which we will soon not have), and there has been a slowly growing backlash against it over the past year or so.
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It slowly trickles outside the cities though. If you ask some of your older relatives who live in the middle of nowhere if they've read the best-selling white guilt bible 'White Fragility,' you might be surprised.
But. At the end of the day, with wokeness, we're seeing Christianity getting supplanted with a secular equivalent that fulfills a lot of the same roles (filling that void where people want to put a sense of existential purpose, grappling with "sin" or "privilege" as it's called now, etc). And like any dominant religion/belief system, there will be die-hards and suckups to the priesthood, and conversely there will be people who pay the bare minimum lip service to avoid confrontation while really just wanting to live their lives.

It's going to color our lives in a negative way probably indefinitely, but most people will fundamentally just still be people who act like people.
 
Zionald BLUMPF dijo:
A great in-depth video explaining the end goal of Wokeism/Great Reset/Woke Capital (not conspiratorial/wignat shit). Essentially, in the West in {X} few years, you will own nothing, and rent everything from a few big corporations. There will be zero physical money, wholly digital, and only through the select few big banks. You're a criminal on the run? You can't even buy McDonald's without a debit/etc. card that's in your name. Anyone who dissents/is cancelled will instantly lose their rented home, rented car, and have their bank accounts/cards frozen. That's the endgame of the digital economy/great reset. Make everything digital and rented so everything can be easily taken away. It's modeled after, as Keith Woods argues, the english Feudal System from the middle ages, where most of the population owned nothing and lived on farms governed by Lords. Just watch the video; my summary is shit.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ebq0iMcVpf0
The argument for escaping America has little to do with fat trannies bitching on Twitter; it's more economics and societal control. Even without Wokeism, a blitheringly poor pod-society is no fun.
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This "Keith Woods" seems to be an unironic nazbol.
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OP, you can always teach English in another country. There are a few companies that hire native English speakers and send them abroad (used to be China/Russia mostly but there are other opportunities as well). You will likely have to wait for COVID to end, but I imagine they’ll be back in business soon.

Every country has its issues. You’ll escape the US and just find new ones, but it is still worth getting out and seeing the world for yourself!
 
I'm not running from the U.S. due to wokism, but the fact that the government steadily has become more and more hostile towards American citizens. I'm talking about things like:

1) Equifax and countless other corporations leaking personal data of almost every single American citizen and facing zero consequences for their actions.
2) NSA spying on Americans, treating us like criminals simply because we exist.
3) Unfair taxes on cryptocurrencies. I read the other day that the IRS now wants you to be double taxed, where you get taxed on the value of crypto that you hold AND when you convert the crypto to fiat.

I've been looking into Latin American countries like Brazil or Columbia, and even places like Cuba to live in. If anyone is from a Spanish country then can you please share your thoughts on life there for people with advanced degrees in life sciences (researchers).

Thank you
 
I myself am leaving the states within 2 months here

1) I have always wanted to go into a military career and the us despite it's passion for vets
doesn't tend to do so well with supporting them when they get out or not putting them in harms way with pointless wars
2) The US is a horrible place to be if you are young and have a lack of assets housing? healthcare? good fucking luck mate
3) Political climate, I know Joe Rogan and others have been talking about muh civil war for a long time now but after seeing my city burn down
and losing power and internet because of Political vandalism and I can't see this shit slowing down
4) The lockdown in northen states, I haven't been able to go outside all fucking year, The only time I was able to actually do shit was when I was down south
5) Immigration issues despite being in the us since 2014 I'm still facing basic Immigration issues, when covid happed The us Immigration office shut down and at this point I've sure they have literally no idea who is and isn't legally allowed to stay in the us.
6) If you can work online why live in the states? One of the smarted men I've ever met just lives
in the 3rd world where everything costs a fuckin penny guy lives like a fucking king working a middle class job

I'd like to come back to america when I'm older, have assets and a family, but josh is right the us will no doubt be crazy for the next ten years and if you can do nothing else try to at least set yourself up in a southern state, and get yourself a fucking passport!
 
The Grinch dijo:
I've been looking into Latin American countries like Brazil or Columbia, and even places like Cuba to live in. If anyone is from a Spanish country then can you please share your thoughts on life there for people with advanced degrees in life sciences (researchers).
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I know people in Latin America with advanced degrees in things like biology and they're all desperate to escape to Europe because researchers are paid shit in the region. Most of them have ended up doing things like working in pharmacies or unrelated businesses because it pays better.
 
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Zionald BLUMPF dijo:
A great in-depth video explaining the end goal of Wokeism/Great Reset/Woke Capital (not conspiratorial/wignat shit). Essentially, in the West in {X} few years, you will own nothing, and rent everything from a few big corporations. There will be zero physical money, wholly digital, and only through the select few big banks. You're a criminal on the run? You can't even buy McDonald's without a debit/etc. card that's in your name. Anyone who dissents/is cancelled will instantly lose their rented home, rented car, and have their bank accounts/cards frozen. That's the endgame of the digital economy/great reset. Make everything digital and rented so everything can be easily taken away. It's modeled after, as Keith Woods argues, the english Feudal System from the middle ages, where most of the population owned nothing and lived on farms governed by Lords. Just watch the video; my summary is shit.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ebq0iMcVpf0
The argument for escaping America has little to do with fat trannies bitching on Twitter; it's more economics and societal control. Even without Wokeism, a blitheringly poor pod-society is no fun.
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Keith Woods is my favourite Muslim.
 
Protip: Do your research before picking a very specialized major in college.

My degree is awesome in the states, but abroad it is worthless without more schooling and even moar exams.

I heard that teaching English in Asia is awesome as long as you are not black or a fat fuck.
 
Cool Dog dijo:
To where? consider there are far more people trying to go to burgerland than to escape it

What does that tells you?
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Unironically I'm considering moving to the USA post my PhD. The USA is kinda shitty right now; but it's still the best of the West. You can live like a king in some 3rd world shithole if you have a decent job and move there. But you'll also be living in a 3rd world shithole.
 
Had dijo:
I know Joe Rogan and others have been talking about muh civil war for a long time now but after seeing my city burn down
and losing power and internet because of Political vandalism and I can't see this shit slowing down
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Joe Rogan is a retard. And I don't even think he talks about civil war lest spotify ban him. Joe Rogan is a pussy, I hate him
 
Johan Schmidt dijo:
Unironically I'm considering moving to the USA post my PhD. The USA is kinda shitty right now; but it's still the best of the West. You can live like a king in some 3rd world shithole if you have a decent job and move there. But you'll also be living in a 3rd world shithole.
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Its what yanks dont get, the third world is cheap but everything there is cheap and bad quality, also theres real crime not sissy shit like baltimore or detroit, just watch any videos from brasil

Good luck getting in burgerland tho
 
I've always had plans to leave the US, but the situation is just escalating so that I want to leave sooner. I have friends in the country I want to move in, I like the culture, and can speak the language in the survival setting. Right now, I'm just trying to get more fluent while looking at jobs.
 
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