Escaping the United States

[I Love Beef]

These comments have aged nicely.

I wonder what effects the 2020 Tokyo Olympics, Simone Biles's act of quitting, and Chris Chan's tranny incest fucking of his mom will do for the wokes now?

I'd say my plan, but I'd be powerleveling. At best, it would have to come at a life or death exodus take refuge sort of crisis, or being loaded with money and influence to have fuck you money I could just use.

Either way, I'm staying and fighting.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

If I could, I think I'd consider leaving Earth entirely.

This planet isn't that great.

(although living in a spacecraft or space colony may not be that healthy)

I want to leave sooner.

Could the "New Normal" throw a wrench in those plans?

 

[AnimeGirlConnoisseur]

Do it the old fashioned way and join the French Foreign Legion.

But then you would have to live in France.

These comments have aged nicely.

I wonder what effects the 2020 Tokyo Olympics, Simone Biles's act of quitting, and Chris Chan's tranny incest fucking of his mom will do for the wokes now?

I'd say my plan, but I'd be powerleveling. At best, it would have to come at a life or death exodus take refuge sort of crisis, or being loaded with money and influence to have fuck you money I could just use.

Either way, I'm staying and fighting.

Can we have the optimistic sticker back? I think this comment really deserves it. I don't like all of this bullshit coming from the lefties, but "What will X do for the wokes now" has been a talking point for half a decade and nothing has come of it.

 

[draggs]

It is not a good idea to escape the US and you're unironically a complete retard if you unironically think it is.

 

[AnimeGirlConnoisseur]

It is not a good idea to escape the US and you're a complete retard if you unironically think it is.

Well, if you have the a skillset that lets you find employment anywhere, the knowledge needed to assimilate into a new culture, and no obligations that tie you to this country then what's wrong with wanting to leave the US and set up shop somewhere else?

 

[LTO Data Cartridge]

But then you would have to live in France.

Can we have the optimistic sticker back? I think this comment really deserves it. I don't like all of this bullshit coming from the lefties, but "What will X do for the wokes now" has been a talking point for half a decade and nothing has come of it.

At the very least it seems to have died down in the past year. I remember even on this forum every other day you'd have people posting about how the "pendulum" (completely fake and meaningless concept) would "swing back" any day now guys. Total thought terminating cliche. The left has shown that it is totally competent at continuing to shift the Overton window indefinitely because most people have the memory of a goldfish.

As for the thread topic, my family has lived in this country for seven generations. I am an American through and through and will never abandon this nation even if it kills me. I've thought about vanishing into Russia but the United States is the only place where I'll ever feel at home with my people.

 

[draggs]

Well, if you have the a skillset that lets you find employment anywhere, the knowledge needed to assimilate into a new culture, and no obligations that tie you to this country then what's wrong with wanting to leave the US and set up shop somewhere else?

How many more conditions you want to put on the question to make it as favorable to your opinion as possible lol

What's wrong is there is no country you can go to where you will be less vulnerable to the vicissitudes of the State which will consider you its property to a varying but larger degree than in the US, or the vicissitudes of a populace that is unwelcoming to foreigners to a varying degree once again larger than the US.

You must have a very particular skillset to be valuable enough to be insulated from that bullshit to the degree you are insulated more or less without effort or any valuable skills in Murica. Just by living here.

Now cry about muh ded nigger country or something.

 

[Friendly_AI]

It is kind of surreal to see people say they want to leave the US, knowing how many people would sell their soul and body just to set a foot in the states, sometimes illegally. Not that it should be a reason to stay, but just keep that in mind.

And as it had been said in the thread, no country is heaven on earth. If you think you would be free from government surveillance (especially in Russia/China), laugh at yourself before everyone laughs at you.

Learning how to teach the language is also important, if people want to follow the route of "moving to another country to teach my native language". Honestly, it's not the best paying option, but a viable one for English.

 

[AnimeGirlConnoisseur]

How many more conditions you want to put on the question to make it as favorable to your opinion as possible lol

What's wrong is there is no country you can go to where you will be less vulnerable to the vicissitudes of the State which will consider you its property to a varying but larger degree than in the US, or the vicissitudes of a populace that is unwelcoming to foreigners to a varying degree once again larger than the US.

You must have a very particular skillset to be valuable enough to be insulated from that bullshit to the degree you are insulated more or less without effort or any valuable skills in Murica. Just by living here.

Now cry about muh ded nigger country or something.

I'm adding these conditions, because if you're a white guy with no useful skill set who only speaks English and you decide to throw a dart at a map and move to whatever country it lands on, because you don't like America then you're a retard. I'm not trying to trick anyone that's just the reality of the situation. Moving to a new country that you have no connection to is hard and most people probably shouldn't try it.

You are right that other countries have problems, but I think that the important thing is whether or not the country you're in sees you as a threat. Lots of foreign countries will probably try to get money out of American expats/immigrants one way or another, but I don't think they care about anything beyond that. America on the other hand, if the people in power here see you as a threat they will eventually try to turn the whole system against you. It would be hard having to kiss some state's ass all the time, but that would be better than worrying about the government coming after you.

 

[A Logging Company]

It is kind of surreal to see people say they want to leave the US, knowing how many people would sell their soul and body just to set a foot in the states, sometimes illegally. Not that it should be a reason to stay, but just keep that in mind.

Very good point. I'm deadset on getting out of the US for at least a few years by the Spring of next year (if not sooner). I unironically learn2code to do so. But one of the pills I had to swallow when doing research was in terms of large countries, the United States is still the best country to live in at the moment.

But the big factor is the US is doomed for all around severe decline. "Wokeism" is just one of its symptoms. The current up-and-coming generation of elites are some of the most neurotic, incompetent, out-of-touch, and over-socialized to ever hold important titles and be trusted to make decisions. How they handled the election and the fallout is a sign of what they are willing to not even compromise for power.

The average age of a CEO is mid 50's, meaning it's currently Gen-X in charge at most places, with Millennials filling middle management and older M's making their way into upper management, and look at how much damaged they've already done.. In 5 to 10 years every industry is going to be as Woke as the tech industry, if not more so. And Woke shit will be the least of our worries. I can only imagine what kind of industry and society wide failures and collapses these fucking faggots are going to cause, oversee, and some how fuck up even more. Corona is just the canary in the coal mine for what the future has in store. The only hope I have is they will be so incompetent and cause such a massive crash, decentralized block-chains take over, and the elite are supplanted and made subservient to defi degens; not unlike Romans having to bow down to Germanic warlords.

And there is a certain freedom that comes with being a foreigner, like people won't care about opinions you have that are highly polarizing at home. Worst comes to worst, I catch some STDs in South East Asia and come back Freedomland, with hopefully some actual freedom still intact.

 

[L50LasPak]

When you're born on this planet, you're given one ticket to the freakshow. When you're born in the USA, you've given a front row seat.

I'll be damned if I give up my seat just as the show is getting really good.

 

[niqlo]

I want to go there. I come from a boring place where nothing ever happens, compared to the US. I'm thinking of doing gonzo journalism, writing a book or something in the future. I could go there, travel around, look at weird stuff, talk to weird people, go to weird places, then document my travels somehow. That'd be cool.

 

[Travoltron]

I want to go there. I come from a boring place where nothing ever happens

You don't know how good you have it, then.

I've lived overseas. I liked how I could go outside after dark and not worry about getting beaten by thugs. I liked being able to park a car somewhere and not have it burgled or stripped when I return. I liked not having to deal with crazy people on public transit. I liked not having to deal with stinking, thieving bums being above the law and setting up homeless camps everywhere. I liked not having race riots. I liked looking at people and not seeing rolls of tatted-up fat. I liked seeing pretty young women with no blue hair dye. I liked not having to look at troons.

I could go on forever. America has sucked ever since 9/11 and is only getting worse. I had the chance to make a career abroad just before everything went to shit and it's my life's biggest regret not taking that opportunity.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

escaping america is like that one eagles song: you can check out any time you like but you can never leave

followed by like a 5 minute long guitar solo

 

[Dindus]

Lmao so much seppo cope in this thread

 

[Smug Chuckler]

It is kind of surreal to see people say they want to leave the US, knowing how many people would sell their soul and body just to set a foot in the states, sometimes illegally. Not that it should be a reason to stay, but just keep that in mind.

One man's trash is another man's treasure.

 

[ReturnedHermit]

Some people living in the US have this problem of being outcompeted by others all over the world in a country that is very pro immigration. Many Americans are just fine with their situation, others are doing really well. What sparks these discussions about abandoning ship? It would be jaded of me to assume this is all meant to demoralize Americans.
If you are in the economic "rust belt" so to speak, straddling the middle class of 20 years ago and sinking into the lower class of today, I don't think emigrating will solve your problem.
To all those people: I think it is an issue of mindset. Maybe you see your country and your place in it through the lens of an outdated myth. Maybe you are too caught up in anger, anxiety, depression, and addiction to be your best self. Maybe you fell into the trap of internalizing the value system of your enemies without making a conscious choice to join them. I could maybe all day, it's a problem with my writing I am trying to shore up.
The point I want to make is that the people with the skills and wealth to leave this country for something better have no reason to do so because they can insulate themselves from the worst aspects of the decline. If you refuse to insulate yourself, you have a fixation with the abyss that will only harm you and never accomplish anything productive. On the other hand, if you are being outcompeted in this country you will be outcompeted in others. You're acclimated to a sterile, simple culture designed to import cheap labor and get them "spun up" as quickly as possible. A "real" culture will present new obstacles of language, customs, in-group preference, the reputation of Americans abroad and much more.
If you consider yourself an American standing for "real American values" you still have to win the power game required to enforce those values. Having no choice but to overcome an impossible enemy should be a dream come true for all you kids raised by Nintendo and cartoon network.

 

[Regular_Non_Spy_Phone]

I got out about 12 years ago and since lived in over a dozen countries... Some of my take-aways:
- You cannot run from the spiritual attacks being set upon the world; they will affected everyone anywhere. The real difference is urban vs rural in any country; same degeneracy has come to all major cities. The more westernized the country, the more the urban vs rural dichotomy is - but that is rapidly changing.
- When shit goes down you are greatly benefitted by being linguistically and culturally fluent (best be in yo home country, yo)
- The seriously resourceful man can survive anywhere
- It is far more important to be around good people (meaning you know them) than be under a statistically better government or locale.
- Be honest about what kind of solitude you can tolerate. I don't mind being alone in nature for months, but I've found that is quite uncommon.
- Do not try to buy property in countries without real property rights.
- Learn to think 10y ahead; if your vision of your life includes owning a house, for example, then don't live in a place where you can't afford a house or you can't legally own property
- If you want to form a successful family, then it is free and invaulable to make sure your wife's family is nearby - one way or another
- If you actually care about "escaping wokism," then home schooling laws are essential. Many countries will put you in jail for not letting the government forcibly groom your children.
- Don't forget where you can stay and for how long if you plan on making serious $$$... Many countries can and do collect taxes internationally

 

[RybenZ999]

I thought you guys were against immigration?

 

[kim foxx]

emigration, on the other hand,