🐮 Lolcow Doug Jackson / SV Seeker - Boomer hubris personified, an incompetent lunatic's dreams slowly crumbling to dust because of his own poor decisions.

[SwiftBucks]

Because idiot boomers with their barely sea worthy pleasure boats would get into trouble and we would have to bail them out.

I don't know if it's because I lack a sense of adventure or whimsy or am just a coward, but I don't understand the mindset these people have.

Like Doug, setting off across open ocean listing badly and leaking fuel. Or the boomers you mentioned taking their yachts towards Somalia.

This phenomenon isn't limited to boats either, just read some NTSB reports of small/experimental plane crashes. Apparently there's just an endless supply of people that buy 25+ year old DIY/modified aircraft and go fly them with nothing more than a once over.

Back to Doug though, I'm still kinda chuckling at the thought of him being stranded if the motor fails. On a sailboat. It might be his breaking point.

 

[2lolis1cup]

This phenomenon isn't limited to boats either, just read some NTSB reports of small/experimental plane crashes. Apparently there's just an endless supply of people that buy 25+ year old DIY/modified aircraft and go fly them with nothing more than a once over.

The amount of people that use money instead of skill and knowledge is terrifying. The best thing is that they often just only kill themselves and only 1 or 2 passengers. I don't like the newish ATP minimums, but I understand them. This is the aviation version of doug. They paid their way into a larp and didn't understand the deadly consequences of their actions. The "pilot" didn't know how to properly use the autopilot system.

Spoiler: Nontent of watching another boat sinking

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[Smoke Manmuscle]

Back to Doug though, I'm still kinda chuckling at the thought of him being stranded if the motor fails. On a sailboat. It might be his breaking point.

This is what just clicked for me. The absolute irony of him complaining about a light breeze in a FUCKING SAILBOAT. I’m not a sailor nor do I play one on YouTube but according to Google whitecaps start forming around 10 knots of wind. There weren’t any whitecaps in his video of “strong winds”. Any sailboat that can’t handle 10 knots of wind is pitiful.

Also if he is Martinique he is pretty far out from the US. Do we know if he is headed further south down the Antilles? With his pitiful speed he’s likely to get caught up in hurricane season. Especially if his motor or hummerstat gives out again.

 

[Tiresome]

The way I think about Doug is basically just to trust that the luck God grants to fools and little children (of which Doug is both) will eventually run out. Consider the Oceangate submarine moron. The asshole was rich as fuck and that's the only reason he got to last for years with everyone from engineers, scientists, regulators and even people with common fucking sense telling him his submarine was a piece of shit and was going to kill him and everyone in it, no way around it. It took an obscenely extended time, but it happened. I just hope when the Garbage Scow finally goes, the coast guard can't get to Doug's entitled ass in time and so the saga ends as it should.

 

[JustStopDude]

The way I think about Doug is basically just to trust that the luck God grants to fools and little children (of which Doug is both) will eventually run out. Consider the Oceangate submarine moron. The asshole was rich as fuck and that's the only reason he got to last for years with everyone from engineers, scientists, regulators and even people with common fucking sense telling him his submarine was a piece of shit and was going to kill him and everyone in it, no way around it. It took an obscenely extended time, but it happened. I just hope when the Garbage Scow finally goes, the coast guard can't get to Doug's entitled ass in time and so the saga ends as it should.

Oh that Ocean gate shit is so much more fucked up than I think people realize. One of the issues affecting their profitablity was the limited number of paying customers per trip. It had to be kept low because if they added one more person, the sub would require US Coast Guard certification.

The fucking sub tender ship was intentional registered and flagged in Canada as a fishing boat or some shit to again, get away from any sort of safety regulation.

The fucking paint scheme alone would fail it. There is a reason why life boats are fucking bright red, orange, or neon green. They need to stand out on the surface from a distance. These idiots make what looks like a crest of a wave or a fucking piece of debris.

The submarine itself was basically designed by college interns. What little staff they had with any sort of engineering experience got fired. They did zero destructive testing. The fucking acoustic system that was supposed to detect if the hull was about to fail...that is so retarded it's something a crackhead would come up with. And using carbon fiber for compression forces?!? The company that made the carbon fiber had no idea that Oceangate was using it for a submarine as the stuff was originally for a racing team that went under. Oceangate literally bought the shit from a bankruptcy auction and now that company is being sued by the Pakistani widow.

I commission large equipment. For example, when I do a quay crane, I will use a video game controller because the operation station will still be in the process of being wired up. That said, I fucking hardware it into the control circuits. I'm still shocked the Pakistani woman hasn't sued the video game controller company yet and we now have warnings on them saying "not fit for deep sea dive operations"

The fucking viewing portal, which was originally supposed to have a standard bubble design, was changed to a batshit, untested design because the Oceangate owner didn't like the visual distortion. Effectively because of that design change, the viewing port had no predictable failure depth since no one ever tried to ignore physics to that extent before.

A YouTuber did a fantastic breakdown of the entire Coast Guard hearing and investigation.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLirzW1zivtLUFX9XK3WTey9oc-J_BROVe

I swear it would make more sense that the Stockton guy was trying to do a murder/suicide than actually have a functioning company.

 

[Tiresome]

I'm still shocked the Pakistani woman hasn't sued the video game controller company yet and we now have warnings on them saying "not fit for deep sea dive operations"

To be fair, that is one of the rare CYA-legal manufacturer notices that is on its own, really fucking funny. Good for them.

 

[SwiftBucks]

The fucking acoustic system that was supposed to detect if the hull was about to fail...that is so retarded it's something a crackhead would come up with.

It actually worked as intended but they chose to ignore it. The system detected cracking on every dive but they hand waved it away as minor delamination or "air pockets" cracking between the layers

 

[2lolis1cup]

In today's archive dump we have creepshots, uncomfortable interviews, bland dolphine b stock footage, more failures of steering systems and now the sewage system is failing.
Creepshots and no maintenance

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B stock footage and heavy listing while showing off people

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Shit Show

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[TowinKarz]

The visible listing in every video is hilarious. Also idk about you guys but spilling fuel everywhere on a boat would make me pretty nervous

You get aboard a boat that visibly lists in harbor? And stay there as it goes out? You're not a person for whom "nervous" seems to apply.

The only people that seem to not mind are the young, dumb or an ego-consumed retirees..... which sums up the kind of people in those pics pretty nicely. It pains me to know that my lifetime tax contributions have probably been wasted by now paying for all the USCG trips out to try and slap some sense into him, and we haven't had the final one yet.

It actually worked as intended but they chose to ignore it. The system detected cracking on every dive but they hand waved it away as minor delamination or "air pockets" cracking between the layers

Don't' know if it's true, but? Reportedly? Stockton, massive nothing-bad-happens-to-rich-people idiot that he was? Said that if that WAS the sound of the carbon fiber cracking? Then it was only the "weak" strands breaking and they didn't need them anyway..... he was advocating for Lysenkoism in engineering.....we're weeding out the weak and the ones that remain will make the boat STRONGER!

 

[SwiftBucks]

Don't' know if it's true, but? Reportedly?

As far as I remember the idea was the first trip or two would see cracking and they theorized it would stop, but it never did

 

[Mussolini’s Merkin]

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Shit Show

Calm seas at the bow is awash, that's always a really great sign! Is it just me or is the list getting worse as well?

 

[Adamska]

Calm seas at the bow is awash, that's always a really great sign! Is it just me or is the list getting worse as well?

Won't be shocked if it's because the welds of this pre-built temu tier garbage is actually failing.

 

[myhairisonfire]

Did you guys talk about how the zinc anodes on his boat arent eroding? They're actually growing biofoul.

The only thing worse than missing anodes are completely intact ones. His whole electrical system is probably fucked

 

[SwiftBucks]

The only thing worse than missing anodes are completely intact ones. His whole electrical system is probably fucked

No it's fine the hull acts a big sacrificial anode and will turn the boat into an artificial reef eventually. It's all part of the design.

 

[Smoke Manmuscle]

As far as I remember the idea was the first trip or two would see cracking and they theorized it would stop, but it never did

I’ll take fatigue cycling for $500 Alex.

Did you guys talk about how the zinc anodes on his boat arent eroding? They're actually growing biofoul.

The only thing worse than missing anodes are completely intact ones. His whole electrical system is probably fucked

Where was that? In the video from the diver? I must have missed it.

 

[myhairisonfire]

I’ll take fatigue cycling for $500 Alex.

Where was that? In the video from the diver? I must have missed it.

Yeah, he has one of the french girls dive the boat. Besides finding that part of the skeg/prop shroud is cracked (which he ignores), the video reveals that there is no erosion from his homemade zinc anodes. This would indicate that they're doing fuckall.

Pictured below is the anode on top of the """kort nozzle"""

Before	After

edit: anodes should last between six months and a year. Doug has been in saltwater for, what, three years now?

 

[Smoke Manmuscle]

Yeah, he has one of the french girls dive the boat. Besides finding that part of the skeg/prop shroud is cracked (which he ignores), the video reveals that there is no erosion from his homemade zinc anodes. This would indicate that they're doing fuckall.

Pictured below is the anode on top of the """kort nozzle"""

Before	After
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edit: anodes should last between six months and a year. Doug has been in saltwater for, what, three years now?

I’ve seen biofouling on anodes before. I can’t remember but what material did he use and did he do any calculations on how many anodes he needed?

 

[myhairisonfire]

I’ve seen biofouling on anodes before. I can’t remember but what material did he use and did he do any calculations on how many anodes he needed?

I'm just gonna copy this from Reddit, because someone did a writeup on it already:

TLDR: Doug (may have) f-'ed up and made the "zinc" wrong on the boat, and they appear not to be doing anything. 4-5 years in the water, they should have seen some signs of corrosion. So assuming the zincs aren't corroding, it means something else is.

So - for those that don't know, metal boats in salt water require some extra care, as you can imagine - they like to corrode. Even "plastic" (fiberglass) boats need some help, as you'll have metal bits in the water (through hull valves, rudder posts, and ports that let water in/out of the boat for the engine, sinks, etc...).

So what you do is you add to the boat a "scapegoat", a "weakling" that the corrosive saltwater will "eat" first and spare your good stuff. (It's a chemistry/electrical thing) You do that by selecting a medal that is cheap, and something you can add to the boat and replace at intervals easily. You'll see them on prop shafts on sailboats a lot - that's a good place, as it's central to the boat's "ground" point. You'll even find them inside outboard engines. And right now, hopefully, there should be one in your hot water heater down the hall. It saves your tank from rusting. (they are replaceable too)

Commonly, they are called "zinks" - but you can make them out of other stuff. Sometimes they are made out of aluminum with a little zinc mixed in so that it dissolves evenly. But - you have to make them "doped" with a special element - or the whole thing doesn't work. The element is Indium. And it's one of the least talked about elements on the periodic table - but used in all sorts of things.

Dooooog being Dooooog, cast his own "zincs" from the aluminum scrap from the "Love me Tender" failed Jet boat, and although he added zinc to the mix (first with zinc power, and that didn't work, so he redid them with chunks of zinc mixed in) - he completely skipped the key ingredient to make it work. Indium. (source: https://shura.shu.ac.uk/13482/2/Lambert - The Role of Indium in the Activation Accepted.pdf)

The problem with using aluminum, is aluminum likes to form a "skin" of aluminum-oxide on it (even in water) - The Indium breaks this skin, so that it actually works (more info in the academic paper above if you really want a rabbit hole.)

So as a boat owner, you really, really want to ask yourself the question: "If my "zincs" aren't corroding to protect the boat.... then what is???"

Oh, and hi Dooog if you are reading this.

(here is the casting video where he talks all about it if you want to watch it: https://skiv.com/v/FE8kKF5-181125-Casting-and-Installing-Anodes-Learning-to-Weld-watermarked)

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[Smoke Manmuscle]

Thanks. All my work was in freshwater shipping so saltwater is out of my wheelhouse. When we drydocked a boat it would have the anodes measured and if they were under a certain size they would be replaced.

 

[SwiftBucks]

Pictured below is the anode on top of the """kort nozzle"""

Does his diy shroud even do anything if it's not a foil?