Doctor Who grieving thread

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The most obnoxious part about that bit where TennantDoc gets scolded for assuming someone's gender is that it's one of those bits where someone is 'called out' and their response is to do a shit-eating little performance of taking it on the chin and exaggeratedly being like 'YES! A MOST EXCELLENT POINT!', in what's supposed to be an example of 'graceful acceptance' of criticism in order to "do better" as an ally.

That and the "heh, men!" atmosphere of other clips I've seen, for too long Nu-Dr. Who has been one of these shows and other pieces of entertainment media where they make the ideology so thick there isn't a moment's rest. You must feel the pulsating radio waves of the creators' "subversive" ideology every second, with no respite! It's like how I was at a relative's house recently and someone was watching the new tv-series about TV chef Julia Childs on HBO, and in the first 15 or so minutes no fewer than three white men did something villainous while a female POC TV producer (who was probably TOTALLY based on a real person, right?...right?) alone understood Childs' vision, and all of the white men involved who weren't outright villainous and leering were clueless, doddering buffoons who all needed to be tricked in order for Childs to even make it on television.

It's just exhausting, when it seems every other show out there is being jam-packed with the writers' obnoxious ideology and clumsy propaganda.
 
RTD: I know you all wanted tineless children to be retconned, but hear me out for a second, on this special, we are gonna make Donna return and fix the whole can't see the Doctor thing by giving her a underage transgender person of colour, which is...
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I never managed to get too far into Dr. who. I watched the first 2-3 seasons when they came out and decided it was not for me. I think it might be the show being way closer to the fantasy scale than scifi. It's all the crazy situations and core characters drama rather than world building.
 
Oh no. People hated it because the dr was a women. The cope was ‘well, it will be ok I guess if the writing is good’ and then the writing wasn’t good. To the point people started feeling sorry for the actors.
No, it was definitely the writing and the specific woman in question. Current Year was still relatively new at the time, and most people had already accepted that a female Doctor would eventually happen, and it wouldn’t break continuity since it had already been established that time lords can regenerate into a different sex.

The writing started to become noticeably more political during Capaldi’s era, but he was a lifelong Doctor Who fan who wanted to be an entertaining Doctor first and foremost, and it showed in his performance. Whittaker was also friends with Tennant, the fan favorite who loved the series so much that it was his main inspiration for becoming an actor. Given all this, people started out somewhat optimistic. Then Whittaker opened her first message regarding the role with “As a woman, I…” and started talking about how she didn’t even like Doctor Who and wanted to change it. That’s why people were upset from the start; she used it as a political platform instead of showing an ounce of respect for the half-century old pop culture icon that she had just become the new face of.
 
No, it was definitely the writing and the specific woman in question.
Oh no. I remember. Fans of every stripr hated it but were willing to give it a chance if the writing was good. Then it just wasn’t.
and most people had already accepted that a female Doctor would eventually happen,
That doesn’t mean people liked it.
and it wouldn’t break continuity since it had already been established that time lords can regenerate into a different sex.
And people disliked when that was established as well because they knew why and where it would go. At most people were ok if it happened to anyone but The Doctor. And even that was pushing it.
 
Just gonna copy my comment from the other thread:

I feel really bad for Capaldi. Dude was one of the best actors to ever get the role and was a genuine fan of doctor who since he was a child which is reflected in his amazing performance but was saddled with some of the absolute worst scripts in the show's entire history and his third series with the black dyke is unwatchable.

Just imagine, you're a doctor who fan since childhood, you manage to get a role as a guest star, already huge if you love the show, you perform so well that 5 years and 2 doctors later the showrunners ring you up and ask you if you want to play the doctor himself, and then they saddle you with the black lesbian and have you talk about the moon increasing in mass and how antipsychotics are bad. Genuinely sad.

But at bare minimum at least we have heaven sent to remember him by, proof that the man is talented enough to carry episodes (and arguably his entire series) all by himself.

If any doctor deserves a second chance its him, by far.

 
I just want the Doctor to look at the UNIT chick in her unpowered rocket-launching wheelchair, and say, "You know, I could take you into the future a million years where they have medical clinics on every street corner that can regrow your spine in seconds and have you back home in time for supper." And then just walk away from her, laughing as he locks the TARDIS door behind him.
 
I just want the Doctor to look at the UNIT chick in her unpowered rocket-launching wheelchair, and say, "You know, I could take you into the future a million years where they have medical clinics on every street corner that can regrow your spine in seconds and have you back home in time for supper." And then just walk away from her, laughing as he locks the TARDIS door behind him.
Oh please, a strong and indipendent female wheelchair user would spit of such a disgusting offer made by a filthy, white man before he has even time to finish it. Haven't you learned anything from Sun-Spider or Robyn hood?
Welcome to clown world, population: politically correct writers.
 
The most obnoxious part about that bit where TennantDoc gets scolded for assuming someone's gender is that it's one of those bits where someone is 'called out' and their response is to do a shit-eating little performance of taking it on the chin and exaggeratedly being like 'YES! A MOST EXCELLENT POINT!', in what's supposed to be an example of 'graceful acceptance' of criticism in order to "do better" as an ally.
The whole performative bullshit about "assuming gender/pronouns" really ticks me off. Especially in this case where they are talking about some fluffy furball. Even if someone might complain that the alien got defaulted as "he", it's utterly retarded to ask it "what are your pronouns". A normal person will just ask whether it's male or female. Actually, they can just refer to it as "it" if they don't know whether those aliens even have males and females. Maybe they are all hermaphrodites. Or reproduce asexually. But who cares! The alien might not even know what pronouns are and what "he" or "she" stands for.
And if someone incorrectly refers to the alien as "he" but it actually isn't, a normal person's response would be "fluffy is actually a she" or whatever, instead of "did yoooouuuu assuuuuuuuume the proooonouuuuuns". You really have to be deliberately as obnoxious as possible if this is how you interact with people who do not obsess about pronouns.

Sorry for the sperg. I am just really annoyed to see these kind of performative, completely unrealistic, preachy interactions in current tv shows. (I haven't watched Doctor Who since Tennant left.)
 
The whole performative bullshit about "assuming gender/pronouns" really ticks me off. Especially in this case where they are talking about some fluffy furball. Even if someone might complain that the alien got defaulted as "he", it's utterly retarded to ask it "what are your pronouns". A normal person will just ask whether it's male or female. Actually, they can just refer to it as "it" if they don't know whether those aliens even have males and females. Maybe they are all hermaphrodites. Or reproduce asexually. But who cares! The alien might not even know what pronouns are and what "he" or "she" stands for.
And if someone incorrectly refers to the alien as "he" but it actually isn't, a normal person's response would be "fluffy is actually a she" or whatever, instead of "did yoooouuuu assuuuuuuuume the proooonouuuuuns". You really have to be deliberately as obnoxious as possible if this is how you interact with people who do not obsess about pronouns.

Sorry for the sperg. I am just really annoyed to see these kind of performative, completely unrealistic, preachy interactions in current tv shows. (I haven't watched Doctor Who since Tennant left.)
You have a point about the terminology. Rose's dialogue comes off like a parody of progressives rather than someone who's genuinely inquisitive.
 
We've gone from the sheer kino of John Hurt knocking it out of the park and then Tom Baker managing to "out-alien" Matt Smith and completely steal the show in the Day of the Doctor, to a literal gay, niggerfaggot tranny screeching about pronouns and non binary shit while that faggot Tennant just stands there and takes it.

Doctor Who used to be fun, sometimes shit, sometimes really good (often in the same scene), often confusing but ultimately it still had soul. Not now. That cunt Chinball killed it and now the fat Welshman has returned to defile the corpse.

So what's the next new low that nu-nu-who will achieve?
The nigger Doctor violently bumming CGI versions of Doctors 1 to 12 to finally defeat the universe's worst enemy: white men.
 
If any doctor deserves a second chance its him, by far.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=AZuNA8zMeSE
Having a time machine, Colin Baker is another one who could have desserved a second chance with some better storylines and not screwed by JNT . One unflimed story where he would meet the Celestial Toymaker was unfilmed but was later adapted into a novel and audio book by Big Finish.
 
RTD: I know you all wanted tineless children to be retconned, but hear me out for a second, on this special, we are gonna make Donna return and fix the whole can't see the Doctor thing by giving her a underage transgender person of colour, which is...
Doctor Who fans:
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RTD: THE SHOW MUS-
Doctor Who fans: The show is dead! A living braindead corpse. Why don't you finish the job, and make Doctor Who extinct? Rid the universe of its filth? Why won't you just make it DIIIIIIE?!



RTD: ...You would all make good showrunners.
Doctor Who fans: [stare in disbelief with no other choice but to start creating their own sci-fi stories]
 
So having seen a few clips now, it appears the Bleep/Meep/Whatever wants to sterilize London with fire, actually calls out the fake Rose as a freak of nature, and is being actively hunted to extinction by giant cockroach aliens which seems like its actions are more self-defense. I'm not sure it's the real villain here.

Also, it's weird how Donna gave away all her lottery winnings to charity, yet keeps bitching about not having enough money, wants to sell the Bleep to get rich, etc. I can only assume they added the "gave away the lottery winnings" thing in a re-write, after finally remembering that the Doctor gave her a winning ticket, and were too lazy to remove all her bitching about money they'd already put into the script or rewrite her family as rich and famous. Pity they didn't keep a few million to pay for their son's mental therapy.
 
I was watching Nerdrotic's video about the new Doctor Who episode and there's that final scene from the An Adventure in Time and Space but with the new Doctor who smiles and winks at Hartnell/Bradley. Why that creepy wink? He's in the Tardis, not in some random gay bath house on Gallifrey.
 
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