I watched this dogshit today cause I wanted to laugh at it.
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What's the Joker equivalent of the dalmatians pushing the mom off the cliff?
Yes because Joker wanted to be a story that glamorized the Joker and secretly make him a good guy all along. That's what it wanted to be. It's pretty pathetic honestly and it really shouldn't be compared to Joker as they have nothing in common beyond being villain origin movies.
But that’s what they’ve projected on to it, so they are criticising this imagined version of Joker.
I'd love to see an actual faithful adaptation of the novel. Including the tiger sex. The puppet show. Oblique references to infant rape.
There's no way anyone could ever make a better Jafar movie than Starkid Productions' Twisted: The Untold Story Of A Royal Vizier. Pretty sure it's on youtube if anyone's interested. It is brilliant and has catchy songs.
I mean, one of the most common throwaway jokes about someone disliking something is "You know I hate/fear [x]. [x] killed my family!"
I lost it.
If nothing else the design of Cruella in this movie is cool.So I was wrong. It's a pretty enjoyable movie. Emma Stone is good and reminded me a lot of Eva Green in Dark Shadows. The idea that they're trying to redeem Cruella isn't quite true - I don't want to give spoilers but at the end she's pretty much confirmed "bad", though admittedly she hasn't yet skinned any dogs (just joked about it). I really liked the period aesthetic which they obviously went to a lot of trouble over right down to old-fashioned mopeds and small, portable black and white TVs (remember those?Pepperidge FarmsPeople over 40 do). I have always found Emma Thompson unlikeable so she works well as the villain for me. It starts off as what you might think of as some rebellious girl trope who is punished for being independent and different, but it moves beyond that pretty quickly, imo. Also, Cruella's scheming is actually pretty clever, especially her final masterplan. Credit where it's due - the script has proper, old-fashioned twists and turns done well.
I don't think I've ever seen the Disney film, nor read the books. So perhaps that's factored in. I get that she's an irredeemable villain but here's the thing - this whole thread has been lamenting that it's trying to make her not that. And whilst it gives her good aspects and positions her in a kind of hero role through circumstances, I really don't think it does. The comparison to Joker is a good one. You get to see her awful origins, she's placed in a situation where you sympathise with her and by the end she has embraced her role. It's just that one film has more CGI dogs.
Emma Stone looks great in a succession of awesome outfits. The film is kind of Absolutely Fabulous meets Agatha Christie. I really enjoyed the fashion aspects of it. Especially the garbage truck stunt. She is really engaging, really bold and you like her without actually wanting to know her. A lot of what has been mocked in this thread, like Arthur writing the song at the end or "Cruella" being a nickname from her mum, really isn't a big deal in the film and honestly, works fine.
Also, thanks the gods, she's not some "LOL, so random and quirky" Harley Quinn type character who grow to hate more and more. She is actually rational and smart and not just a darling of the plot gods who gets a free pass on everything because she's "a strong, independent wahmen". Nor does she get a moral pass on everything just because she's the "hero" like aforementioned Harley Quinn.
Anyway, one lone voice saying they enjoyed the movie and defying the prevailing fashions. Much like Cruella.
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It's incredibly lazy.
If they wanted to maker a good guy they should have just avoided the topic of Dalmatians altogether.
Eh, it's not really the case that "Dalmations pushed my mum from a cliff, I hate dalmations now". For a start, she doesn't set out at all to take revenge on dogs. And she actually ends up stealing and keeping the dalmations for herself flatly contradicting the idea that she is now some dog-hating fiend because of it.
Except, as I spoilered above, she doesn't seem to hate dalmations. At least not in any simple and obvious way. Still, there is left open the possibility she might at the end. I really can't get into more detail without spoiling the movie for people who haven't watched it though. And it's a fun watch.
Audiences are dumb as fuck. I watched the Mitchells VS. The Machines recently, because the audience score was like, 98%. That movie ended up being just kind of okay. Not offensively bad, not bad enough to be hilarious, not good enough to be memorable in any way, but it did pull a couple laughs out of me over its two hour runtime. I used to work with a woman who, no question, would have raved about how great she found this movie, because she can't stop sucking Mickey's dong. Even if the score isn't paid for, there are a lot of Disney adults out there who love anything the mouse cranks out, regardless of qualityVer archivo adjunto 2214367
>can't answer why it needed an origin story
>good movie because "visually dazzling" and women
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Audience score looks bought for, Tomatometer is higher than Joker's.
The question your post raises is why it's even related to the original story. If anything, knowing the main protagonist is a villain only ruins the reveal in the end.So I was wrong. It's a pretty enjoyable movie. Emma Stone is good and reminded me a lot of Eva Green in Dark Shadows. The idea that they're trying to redeem Cruella isn't quite true - I don't want to give spoilers but at the end she's pretty much confirmed "bad", though admittedly she hasn't yet skinned any dogs (just joked about it). I really liked the period aesthetic which they obviously went to a lot of trouble over right down to old-fashioned mopeds and small, portable black and white TVs (remember those?Pepperidge FarmsPeople over 40 do). I have always found Emma Thompson unlikeable so she works well as the villain for me. It starts off as what you might think of as some rebellious girl trope who is punished for being independent and different, but it moves beyond that pretty quickly, imo. Also, Cruella's scheming is actually pretty clever, especially her final masterplan. Credit where it's due - the script has proper, old-fashioned twists and turns done well.
I don't think I've ever seen the Disney film, nor read the books. So perhaps that's factored in. I get that she's an irredeemable villain but here's the thing - this whole thread has been lamenting that it's trying to make her not that. And whilst it gives her good aspects and positions her in a kind of hero role through circumstances, I really don't think it does. The comparison to Joker is a good one. You get to see her awful origins, she's placed in a situation where you sympathise with her and by the end she has embraced her role. It's just that one film has more CGI dogs.
Emma Stone looks great in a succession of awesome outfits. The film is kind of Absolutely Fabulous meets Agatha Christie. I really enjoyed the fashion aspects of it. Especially the garbage truck stunt. She is really engaging, really bold and you like her without actually wanting to know her. A lot of what has been mocked in this thread, like Arthur writing the song at the end or "Cruella" being a nickname from her mum, really isn't a big deal in the film and honestly, works fine.
Also, thanks the gods, she's not some "LOL, so random and quirky" Harley Quinn type character who grow to hate more and more. She is actually rational and smart and not just a darling of the plot gods who gets a free pass on everything because she's "a strong, independent wahmen". Nor does she get a moral pass on everything just because she's the "hero" like aforementioned Harley Quinn.
Anyway, one lone voice saying they enjoyed the movie and defying the prevailing fashions. Much like Cruella.
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Yeah, I am pretty sure that Space Jam 2, will be a more bigger trashfire than Cruella, especially since it has some controversy behind it.
Oh absolutely, that's something I want to watch just down to how awful it'll be. Cruella was average and I think the comparisons to Joker hurt it more than anything else, Cruella is much more of a bland drama with some comedy from time to time. Really the only similarity to Joker is that the main character is a recognizable villain.
