Disenchantment - The newest series by Matt Groening

[Travoltron]

I still can't believe how bad it was. I think I watched the entire first season or so. The elf died and I was glad... I thought that was a good place to stop and pretend that was the ending.

 

[CWCissey]

I'm about halfway through, I now remember lesbian mermaid. Fuck that.

Either way, Elfo now has an Ogre brother, and he became a ELM cunt. Zog wants to fuck anything non human, the deviant, and has a bear kid now. Bean doesn't do much and Eric Andre continues to be wasted.

Steamland is a much more interesting setting and Freckles is a much more interesting character and they should do more with that.

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

The only character I give even the slightest shit about us the mother.

She seemed pretty interesting in the cliffhanger so I watched the next few episodes...

That was a mistake

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

This series suffers from having these incredibly long and overly complex story arcs that would seem overdone even by anime filler arc standards. I don't understand why they went in this direction since Futurama managed to have a pretty good idea of how to manage episode flow.

The writing of this show is like watching a hamster on a wheel.

 

[Calandrino]

This series suffers from having these incredibly long and overly complex story arcs that would seem overdone even by anime filler arc standards. I don't understand why they went in this direction since Futurama managed to have a pretty good idea of how to manage episode flow.

The creators seem to have fallen in love with the way they were able to set up stuff like Leela's backstory, Nibbler etc on Futurama. So everything is setting something up, and yet after years of that it still doesn't feel like anything happened, and all the supposed dramatic revelations are only more exposition. I couldn't summarize the plot of the show so far, it's a total blur. There are all these long-delayed payoffs to things that I've long forgotten and never cared about in the first place.

Disenchantment really should have been an isekai where Bean was originally a Starbucks employee or something. This show needed a fish out of water character like Fry to be the comic foil to the fantasy stuff.

Also unpopular opinion but I don't think a female sociopath can work as an MC. I've seen it done successfully with male characters but everytime they try it with a female character it comes across as creepy and flat. Maybe it's societal sexism or some other factor but it just doesn't seem to work in American media.

The Futurama writers noted that the premise with Fry as the audience-identification character didn't work as planned after a few episodes because he fit in perfectly in the future. So maybe they were averse to doing something like that again.

Considering she sounds like a textbook CY girlpower character, Bean turned out okay. I'm not sure what the show's problem is, other than sucking. It seems like that cast playing those characters could start being funny at any minute, but it never happens. It's not really overly woke, the setting isn't unsalvageable boring or anything, it's not distractingly "topical" and contemporary in the way Futurama started to become, but every single episode is bad.

Anyway, calling it now: the actual Disenchanted finale will be a crossover that airs as a Futurama episode.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I've only seen the first season, barely remember anything about it other than Elfo very clearly is meant to be a Billy West character, but is intentionally played by his understudy. It's just one of those shows that is watched in a Netflix haze and then forgotten about when I stopped watching Netflix in general.

 

[CWCissey]

Just finished Series 4. Another cliffhanger, this one shittier than the others (it literally just finished without any attempt at a wrap up)

An interesting concept with the mirror universe isn't explored, Dagmar's still fucking around, Elfo just seems to have been written extremely inconsistently throughout and Freckles is still the best non-Luci character.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Very nice animation, great visuals make it fun to watch.
Elfo is god-tier character
Zog, Oona, side characters are pretty good
Bean is boring
Luci is insufferable
A lot of the humor is really stupid (kids show tier) but some of it's funny.

Also, Bean's alcoholism seems more like something forced in because that's the hip new thing in cartoons, feels really out of place and doesn't contribute anything.

Overall (unpopular opinion) 7/10 would watch more


Edit: Elfo is god-tier because he's so wholesome. I'd compare him to Pim from Smiling Friends. With how hateful and nasty so much TV is, even TV I really like, it is just delightful to see a character who's shtick is being so childishly, innocently, joyous and kind. I mean, a show built out of nothing like that would be unwatchable, but it's seeing that kind of character interact with a harsh world around it that's nice.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Okay, so I've gotten to Season 4 in my binge.

Here's how I'd summarize it: it's a kid show for adults.

By that I mean, 'member how as a kid cartoons are usually pretty silly/goofy (have whimsical storylines, dumb jokes, cheap action), but also take themselves seriously too? Dramedy. Well, that's what this feels like. It doesn't feel like a comedy like something like American Dad or Futurama or Simpsons (to be fair, The Simpsons did serious stuff too, but it also had a more grounded world), but it has "mature" bullshit like "lol booze lol drugs lol sex." I think the plot arcs are the big thing, the moment you have a story carry from episode to episode it starts feeling like its putting on airs (Rick and Morty is a huge example of that), and in this one pretty much everything is tied into some sort of subplot, there's no episodic stuff just for its own sake.

I kind of love it, to be honest, but I also feel like I'm mentally regressing every time I watch it.

Is also a lot like Doraleous and Associates on YouTube, but Doraleous and Associates was (being, y'know, a YouTube show) way cheaper and way more heavy on humor (and a lot funnier, frankly).

 

[potato fan]

season 1 - expected futurama, got disappointed, but it's watchable
season 2 - meh
season 3 - I think they are starting to give up at trying to make this thing funny, at times it seems more like one of those weird french films
season 4 - watched two eps. not even one funny joke so far
I am not sure what is this show supposed to be anymore. At times it seems like it's aimed solely at younger kids crowd, as half the jokes come from (badly executed) slapstick comedy and characters being very, very stupid ("let's try not to draw attention to ourselves" *immediately starts shouting) . Then there are scenes with god that I think were supposed to be a biting commentary about religion, except it's not really biting, or insightful, or funny in any way. The story seems disjointed and makes no sense at times, like when ogres carry captured elfo, he escapes using "a trick" (that seems like writers just gave up), then he runs into dwarves, them and ogres kill each other, then slapstick fun as elfo rolls around in ogre head... then he gets captured by the ogres again? I thought them and dwarves had killed each other. Why do such detour in plot? the ogres killing dwarves was not funny in any way and didnt affect the plot. Tbh I forgot most of them arch plot from previous seasons, but is it ever explained why Bean's mom tries to marry her to satan? if not, why doesnt Bean ever asks her about it? The pacing is weird, there is never any suspense even in the action scenes, some of the things that happen, seem to happen for no reason (like Bean hides in Alva's office while he watches "the itchy and scratchy show but in disenchantment", and he seems to not see her, then it seems he knew she was there all along, but it doesn't really affect the plot at all, why have it there?
It seems more and more like something done as a student project, with wirting done as a group assignment by people who just learn how to do comedy.
e: also does anyone even watch this show? the subreddit about it feels almost deserted

 

[Free the Pedos]

e: also does anyone even watch this show? the subreddit about it feels almost deserted

I keep wanting to like it because the first season was OK, I find the animation style reminiscent of Futurama and charming, and because there are some genuinely great visuals in some episodes, but with every season you can tell it's the pet project of one man and he has no one to tell him "no."

 

[God of Nothing]

I keep wanting to like it because the first season was OK, I find the animation style reminiscent of Futurama and charming, and because there are some genuinely great visuals in some episodes, but with every season you can tell it's the pet project of one man and he has no one to tell him "no."

I feel like it's more one man who can't decide what he's going for or stick to a single plot line for an episode or season.

 

[Quijibo69]

I keep wanting to like it because the first season was OK, I find the animation style reminiscent of Futurama and charming, and because there are some genuinely great visuals in some episodes, but with every season you can tell it's the pet project of one man and he has no one to tell him "no."

And that's how the Star Wars prequels were made.

 

[Shidoen]

This is why Matt Groening should be banned from TV and Foot Parlors.

 

[God of Nothing]

And that's how the Star Wars prequels were made.

George's shitty direction did more to harm those movies than his writing.
unironically, still better than the sequels

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Don't remember if I mentioned it, but what really impresses me with this show (and the comedy is not good and the story just feels awkward, like I've said, kids show for adults) is the visuals, there is some genuinely great looking, creative stuff, the Hell episode was amazing.

 

[Your Spiritual Liege]

Just finished the last 2 parts, and, since no one bothered to give their thoughts, i'll give my own on the finale. I wasn't really amused by the first 3 parts, watched them all when i got the 1 month of netfucks subscription in 2021, so i wasn't expecting anything groundbreaking, with all the problems listed earlier in the thread, but i STILL was dissapointed with how they decided to wrap up this series.

Every negative is still there: boring characters, plot-points introduced and then abandonded in an episode or two, the meta-jokes, that takes waaaay too fucking long (there is literally a "did you assumed my species" skit in part 5 that takes like 3 fucking minutes of pure cringe and is literally forgotten afterwards) but its just cranked up to eleven, especially in part 5, like they really didn't had any strenght left to properly finish the show: people seemingly die and are miraculously brought back later, without any explanation (they even make a fucking joke about that!), jokes goes on forever, without a proper punch-line, action scenes are prolonged by the needless scenery shots (like they are in pursuit/escape by like 3 different background-location, only to get back to the starting location) and the ending is just pure, unsatisfying SHIT, that had the potential to be interesting and emotional, due to the loss of loved ones and pyrrhic victory, only to turn into a sickly sweet happy end, where everybody gets together, just to fuck off to do their own thing. Also, the amount of homosexuality in the last part is off the scale, and not just because of Mora and Bean,

Spoiler

suddenly Odval is gay and in relationship with Mysterio, which doesn't makes any sense, because i remember them being in this hedonistic, pseudo-bi fuck cult, but there were no indications that they were a gay couple, i dunno, maybe there were hints and i just can't remember them

Most of the plot-points aren't really explained, more then just mentioned, how they relate to the events in the earlier seasons, so if you hadn't binged this show/can't remember earlier seasons, you will be at a loss here, not that it matters.

There are good jokes every now and then, some actions sequences are entertaining to watch, especially the magic fight sequences in the last part (the show turns into a fucking Dragon Ball Z duing the fight between Bean and Dagmar, in how they lug around energy blasts), Eric Andre as Luci is always fun to watch and listen, although they really done him dirty in the very last part, when he does something completely out of his character, cuz he "really luvs Bean, sniff sniff".

Overall, if you watched earlier parts and wasn't entertained/captivated by them - don't bother, i would even go as far, as to say, that the show isn't really worth pirating, just watch anything else, like earlier seasons of Simpsons and/or Futurama, if you like the animation style.

Anyway, calling it now: the actual Disenchanted finale will be a crossover that airs as a Futurama episode.

That's a negative, mostly because that would actually be entertaining.

 

[khaine]

I think I've only ever seen the first season, is it worth the slog to watch the rest?

 

[Quijibo69]

I think I've only ever seen the first season, is it worth the slog to watch the rest?

No, it starts improving then turns lame and gay.

 

[TVB]

I think I've only ever seen the first season, is it worth the slog to watch the rest?

No. Just stay away from the rest as humanly possible.