Debate HatinisBad on why Internet assholes like you guys so religious and conservative - Originally in Deep Thoughts.

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I find it funny how nobody tries to argue against my point, at most they make some bs excuse. This only confirms my point, you are all afraid to because you were always brainwashed not to. But how can I blame you? Your brains are too small to withstand the concept of logic. Ignorance is bliss indeed.
Kiwi Farms leans conservative and religious because mainstream social media sites censor them.

There ya go OP /thread
 
Doing something because of religion or boomer traditions is ultra cucked.
You fundamentally misunderstand faith and tradition as Cargo Cults. We don’t do what we do because “the book says so” we do it because we believe in it, and because we know it is good. As for tradition, it doesn’t become tradition because it’s ineffective, or bad, it becomes tradition because it’s what work. For all of human history there were plenty of things that we understood, namely that men and women had separate, but equally important (or to be fair in the case of anyone who wasn’t at least a minor noble, “unimportant”) roles, now we pretend all people are the same interchangeable integer, and that a man from a good family in Massachusetts has the exact same potential as a girl born in a slum in Jakarta, and the consequences of these beliefs is ultimately unfulfilling lives for everyone involved
 
You fundamentally misunderstand faith and tradition as Cargo Cults. We don’t do what we do because “the book says so” we do it because we believe in it, and because we know it is good. As for tradition, it doesn’t become tradition because it’s ineffective, or bad, it becomes tradition because it’s what work. For all of human history there were plenty of things that we understood, namely that men and women had separate, but equally important (or to be fair in the case of anyone who wasn’t at least a minor noble, “unimportant”) roles, now we pretend all people are the same interchangeable integer, and that a man from a good family in Massachusetts has the exact same potential as a girl born in a slum in Jakarta, and the consequences of these beliefs is ultimately unfulfilling lives for everyone involved
Ok, and how about the fact that people are moving away from it more and more each generation? That's happening because its ineffective and outdated.
 
Ok, and how about the fact that people are moving away from it more and more each generation? That's happening because its ineffective and outdated.
It’s happening because it makes people in power make more profit, and it’s encouraged to drive economic growth, dual income households are a primary example, women entering the workforce means that raising a child is more expensive, after all the assumption is that you will have TWO incomes, it’s also driven down the average wage you have to pay per worker, not to mention what it does to the cost of things like housing. The median American is functionally wealthier then most minor nobles from 200 years ago, he also works far more, and has the stressors of the modern world, humans we’re not meant to live as we do now, doesn’t matter if you believe in God, or you think humans are the consequence of natural processes, we are social creatures, but we were designed or evolved to exist in groups of less then 2 dozen, and to meet maybe 2-300 people in our whole lives, rampant over socialization of society and the long term societal consequences of industrialization are driving humans insane. Read Stand on Zanzibar when you get a chance, very interesting book, it’s about overpopulation, but it predicts a lot of the societal ills that would come with it, namely mass shootings/mass casualty attacks
 
It’s happening because it makes people in power make more profit, and it’s encouraged to drive economic growth, dual income households are a primary example, women entering the workforce means that raising a child is more expensive, after all the assumption is that you will have TWO incomes, it’s also driven down the average wage you have to pay per worker, not to mention what it does to the cost of things like housing. The median American is functionally wealthier then most minor nobles from 200 years ago, he also works far more, and has the stressors of the modern world, humans we’re not meant to live as we do now, doesn’t matter if you believe in God, or you think humans are the consequence of natural processes, we are social creatures, but we were designed or evolved to exist in groups of less then 2 dozen, and to meet maybe 2-300 people in our whole lives, rampant over socialization of society and the long term societal consequences of industrialization are driving humans insane. Read Stand on Zanzibar when you get a chance, very interesting book, it’s about overpopulation, but it predicts a lot of the societal ills that would come with it, namely mass shootings/mass casualty attacks
Uh... actually tradition makes the people in power more profit. More nuclear families means more kids that grow up to become cogs in the machine. And that's nice and all about how people are "meant" to live. We got where we are as a species due to efforts and trends driven by human nature.
 
Uh... actually tradition makes the people in power more profit
Verifiably false, people more interested in there family are going to work less and and save more (therefore spending less) the “Nuclear Family” isn’t tradition, it’s a political marketing abstraction that never meant anything. A traditional family structure where you keep your grandparents and extended family close, women stay home and raise children, and where your primary economic goal is the survival of your family, and to leave your children in a better place then you were, is in direct opposition to a nihilistic consumer culture that drives people to spend what they have while they are alive.

And that's nice and all about how people are "meant" to live. We got where we are as a species due to efforts and trends driven by human nature.
Humans are mammals, we’re mammals who can think, who can use fire, who can throw, who’s can speak, and touch the stars, but we are still mammals. We have the brains of mammals, and the effects of stress on those brains, is real and documented. And those trends (Tradition btw) are built over hundreds if not thousands of years slowly evolving, think about how different the life of a man 200 years ago was from someone today. Think about how different someone even 100 years ago lived, think about how unthinkable so many of the things we have now would be to them, the internet, social media, the 24/7 digital panopticon. You unironically think that’s not something that going to effect the human psyche?
 
Ladies and gentlemen, I present @HatinisBad's "concept of logic." Pardon the autism.

Doing something because of religion or boomer traditions is ultra cucked.

Ad hominem.

Trust me, nothing will improve your life more than abandoning God and learning to no give a fuck.

Appeal to emotion.

You're too stupid to think for yourselves or dare to question Christian conservative propaganda.

Ad hominem again. Incidentally, do you ever question propaganda on your side? For example, did you read The God Delusion and ever think to yourself that the guy who decided gorillas and current year AIs are people should be questioned? Did you ever question the narrative of how Judaism began, or the especially ludicrous notion that Jesus never existed? Or are conspiracy theories perfectly fine so long as they concern events that you don't like?

I'm not forcing anyone to believe or not believe anything, I am presenting my argument but they are still free to choose.

Look at you pretending to be reasonable when your very first post was insulting. Yeah we're free to choose, so long as we don't choose what you don't like. Motte and bailey energy.

I call bullshit. This sounds like something on PragerU

Genetic fallacy.

Most people have these "traditional lives" because they were constantly told they had to, and never considered for a second that it's optional. That's why so many are miserable, they aren't living true to themselves.

Bulverism.

And since we're on the topic of child porn, how about them Epstein Files?

Red herring.

Ok, and how about the fact that people are moving away from it more and more each generation? That's happening because its ineffective and outdated.

Appeal to popularity AND chronological snobbery.

I find it funny how nobody tries to argue against my point, at most they make some bs excuse. This only confirms my point, you are all afraid to because you were always brainwashed not to. But how can I blame you? Your brains are too small to withstand the concept of logic. Ignorance is bliss indeed.

I don't know what antitheists would do with themselves if they couldn't ad hominem ad nauseam and call it "logic".

That's some highly original cope, by the way, which I definitely haven't seen before. See, what's really happening is we're not taking you all that seriously. We don't take you seriously because you chose to be a Rational Wiki-tier faggot from the very beginning. You're not worth the time and energy to argue thoughtfully with.

However, it may be a matter of time before someone decides it is worth the time and energy to phonebook you and write a halal thread. I can't speak for everyone, but I'd like to see just how fulfilling your life is as a washed up janitor. I bet that would truly be enlightening.
 
don't believe in God I will believe in other cult is silly
Every member of our species has a god hole. It comes pre-installed. You will fill the hole with some neurotic superstition. You aren't above it. Nobody is. You're a primate. If you think about it, you will discover your superstitious belief. Whether it's that a man can become a woman or that if you don't touch the stove 5 times in the "right" way, there will be a catastrophe visited upon something you love or need. No being can survive in a state of pure reality. The closer one gets to that state, the more unstable they become.

Dear Alcoholic Janitor,


You can't "piss us off" with your words. We don't get mad about words. You will never crack the wall here, but you can become a laughingstock. A hundred people have come here with your goal, more than a hundred, and used all your same words. If you are mad, state your reasons plainly. If you're just going to pipe and pule, you're doing it at a brick wall. Wanna piss us off? Abuse someone innocent and upload the footage.

Beyond that, you have nothing.
 
I am personally not very religious, although I've read the books.. time and time again.

I see them as poetic suggestions to life.

Some folks are more tight, some are more loose.

Live how you like, but do not corrupt others.

If you want to jump into a hotspring, don't scar or try to convince others to follow you.

Push people to do good, otherwise shut up and fuck off.
 
Uh... actually tradition makes the people in power more profit. More nuclear families means more kids that grow up to become cogs in the machine. And that's nice and all about how people are "meant" to live. We got where we are as a species due to efforts and trends driven by human nature.

The people in power don't want more nuclear families. They don't want the native populations to have sustainable replacement numbers in Western nations like the US. They want the native populations to crash so they can replace them with and endless flood of third-world browns to use as a submissive slave class. That's why they have been chipping away at social norms like making divorce easier, single mothers getting easy welfare and more money for more kids but no father in the house, sexual "liberation" such as faggotry, trooning out, and "no slut shaming", indoctrinating women into believing they need a high power executive career over fulfilling her basic biological role of being a mother, and much, much more. TPTB want intelligent, competent Whites to stop breeding so they can be replaced by easily subjugated brown Turd-Eaters who will happily live off scraps in shitty conditions because it's better than where they came from. Whites won't tolerate shitty living conditions, poor pay, and a poor quality of life and will eventually reach a point where they're at their limit and will push back. History has shown this time and time again. Thankfully TPTB boiled the frog too quickly and people have started to wake up.
 
I find it funny how nobody tries to argue against my point, at most they make some bs excuse. This only confirms my point, you are all afraid to because you were always brainwashed not to. But how can I blame you? Your brains are too small to withstand the concept of logic. Ignorance is bliss indeed.
I have no need to argue your point because I am neither religious nor conservative. That said, you sound like a douche. You're so reddit even redditors would post screencaps of you to r/iamverysmart for your fart-huffery.
 
I am personally not very religious, although I've read the books.. time and time again.
Same here, read the Bible twice. Read the Koran once... and that was enough, it starts off all very nice but is downright psychotic/ psychopathic towards the end
Live how you like, but do not corrupt others.
Agree
Push people to do good, otherwise shut up and fuck off.
I wouldnt even go that far. Just Push people to not do evil, otherwise shut up and fuck off. I dont really care if people are doing good or not, just so long as they arent actively being evil
 
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