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[Godzilla@1989]

Snyder, in a rare W realized Rorschach is /ourguy/ and made him the unambiguous hero and everyone else whores and hypocrites.

There’s only one character in Watchmen who Superman would shake hands with and isn’t the blue edgelord, the actual whore, the Silicon Valley homo or the fatass who “quit” when the going got tough.

Walter Kovacs is the hero.

I strongly feel that Snyder’s Watchmen is better than Man of Steel. The graphic novel’s tone and ideas felt like a natural fit for Snyder.

 

[Incecticyder]

There’s only one character in Watchmen who Superman would shake hands with and isn’t the blue edgelord, the actual whore, the Silicon Valley homo or the fatass who “quit” when the going got tough.

"Shake hands" is not the term I would use. He still gives a brutal death to people. They are the kind that deserve it but Supes would feel it isn't heroic. He would have a sit down and a talk.

 

[LightDragonman1]

He’s divisive sure, but some already have problems with Critical Drinker’s review of Supergirl.

 

[BubbaRobot887]

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Have her and Gal Gadot's wonder woman bang for an hour and you will have the first $4 billion world wide gross at the box office.

 

[Humble Architect]

"Shake hands" is not the term I would use. He still gives a brutal death to people. They are the kind that deserve it but Supes would feel it isn't heroic. He would have a sit down and a talk.

Depends on the Superman I suppose, each “era” is a different guy.

I think Post-Crisis Supes would be the one guy writing an article about how the world failed Walter Kovacs and that in spite of everything set against him, Rorschach made a difference and gave his life to expose a cabal of hypocrites, one of which was the only man he ever called “friend”
(Nite Owl in Snyder’s version is an improvement) and they all were tested and found wanting, except for the homeless incel who stank and associates sex with violence.

That’s the kind of guy I think Post-Crisis Supes is, he’d be the one guy writing about who was under the mask of Rorschach and be the one man who cared about Walter Kovacs and would respect the sacrifice. So yes, I think Superman would shake hands with Rorschach because though broken by his world, Rorschach embodied Truth, Justice and the American Way.

Have her and Gal Gadot's wonder woman bang for an hour and you will have the first $4 billion world wide gross at the box office.

How utterly macabre.

I strongly feel that Snyder’s Watchmen is better than Man of Steel. The graphic novel’s tone and ideas felt like a natural fit for Snyder.

Snyder was the right call for Watchmen. The only other guy who could’ve pulled it off would never do it, David Fincher.

 

[Incecticyder]

Depends on the Superman I suppose, each “era” is a different guy.

I think Post-Crisis Supes would be the one guy writing an article about how the world failed Walter Kovacs and that in spite of everything set against him, Rorschach made a difference and gave his life to expose a cabal of hypocrites, one of which was the only man he ever called “friend”
(Nite Owl in Snyder’s version is an improvement) and they all were tested and found wanting, except for the homeless incel who stank and associates sex with violence.

That’s the kind of guy I think Post-Crisis Supes is, he’d be the one guy writing about who was under the mask of Rorschach and the one man who cared about Walter Kovacs and would respect the sacrifice. So yes, I think Superman would shake hands with Rorschach because though broken by his world, Rorschach embodied Truth, Justice and the American Way.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think he wouldn't feel compassion. I think he would talk with him. He is the kind that would desire that he be less violent but also understand where he is coming from and that he does not harm the innocent. He wouldn't invite him to the League but he would not judge him harshly either. I think he would take him to a psychiatrist that would try to make him a healthier version of himself.

 

[Humble Architect]

Don't get me wrong, I don't think he wouldn't feel compassion. I think he would talk with him. He is the kind that would desire that he be less violent but also understand where he is coming from and that he does not harm the innocent. He wouldn't invite him to the League but he would not judge him harshly either. I think he would take him to a psychiatrist that would try to make him a healthier version of himself.

Agreed but if this is posthumous, I think Clark would still respect Rorschach’s devotion to truth and justice being done. Superman respects men who run the gauntlet and still stand tall and fight for their truth.

Which is why I stand by that Superman would shake hands with the spirit of Rorschach, mourn the death of Walter Kovacs and endevour to help those who are suffering like he did. Superman’s best friend is literally a similar case.

Supes has pretty consistently had respect for those who don’t even have a fraction of his gifts and are still somehow made of sterner stuff.

 

[Incecticyder]

Agreed but if this is posthumous, I think Clark would still respect Rorschach’s devotion to truth and justice being done. Superman respects men who run the gauntlet and still stand tall and fight for their truth.

Which is why I stand by that Superman would shake hands with the spirit of Rorschach, mourn the death of Walter Kovacs and endevour to help those who are suffering like he did. Superman’s best friend is literally a similar case.

Supes has pretty consistently had respect for those who don’t even have a fraction of his gifts and are still somehow made of sterner stuff.

I can see how the dying act can be redeeming in his eyes. And, again, he would feel sorry for him.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

Have her and Gal Gadot's wonder woman bang for an hour and you will have the first $4 billion world wide gross at the box office.

too bad they gimped all the ai generators

 

[BubbaRobot887]

Begun the Cope Wars have...

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I strongly feel that Snyder’s Watchmen is better than Man of Steel. The graphic novel’s tone and ideas felt like a natural fit for Snyder.

Synder's version even makes more sense in some ways, like blaming Manhattan after he left Earth instead of a fake alien invasion.

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

Begun the Cope Wars have...

I keep forgetting Mundanematt ever existed. Did he get fired from his Uber job in Washington state yet for his creepy comments about his sister online and uploading a video of himself talking about the time he beaten up a girl, a ten-year-old brother, when he was a teenager after an Rape accusation by that girl?

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

Certainly but the Nazis were WW1 generals but angrier. They still were the guys that unleased poisonous gas on enemies. The roots were there. Of course there is exaggeration (as with all propaganda) but reality is unrealistic. The point is, it shouldn't be too unusual for a WW1 German to have such mannerisms.

I mean you could take that level of amplification and apply it to literally everything - "1940s US politicians were MAGA but 80 years removed" - but I still fail to see WW1 commanders being, well, WW1 commanders being extended to Luddendorf cackling like Skeletor with his subordinate while listening to the German high command getting melted by their magic gas.

 

[BubbaRobot887]

He supported Hitler's attempt to over throw the government and he hated Jews. He only pulled away from Hitler when he became convinced that Hitler wouldn't be able to win the war he was planning.

He wanted a military dictatorship, supported the use of gas weapons, and He tried to overthrow the government in bother 1920(Two years after the movie) and 1923. I don't think it is a stretch to say that if he had gas weapons that he thought could win the war in 1918 he would have used them and he would have been fine with getting rid of the government, since he tried to do exactly that just two years latter.

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

Which makes me ask the question: What happened? Patty did fine in the first movie. What changed? From what I heard, Patty had less supervision. Thus, everything can be blamed on her.

I could buy Snyder had a lot of say in the movie. But the one thing that makes me doubt he should get that much credit is the fact that the first Wonder Woman movie is just too idealistic to be his.

For example, the whole “I believe in love” speech is too traditional and too idealistic, to be something that came from the man that wanted to deconstruct superheroes. It’s just not his style. Perhaps it was a joint effort. My guess is that he brought the ideas and she kept the heart.

Snyder's ideas for WW as far as I know topped out at "it's set in WW1" and the entire moronic final act with Professor Lupin being revealed as Ares. He was also apparently responsible for the depiction of Luddendorf as a cackling Nazi general caricature years before Nazis actually existed.

Jenkins is actually responsible for a good amount of WW not being total shit like toning down the whole vicious warrior woman aspect and trying to make her more along the lines of classic WW. Which is why even that movie has some weird tonal whiplash with Jenkins trying to do an old school, pre-Crisis Wonder Woman while working around Snyder's vision of Wonder Woman. She also apparently didn't like Gadot as the casting choice for WW but had no choice because of Snyder.

WW84 is actually weirdly closer in spirit to old Wonder Woman comics than the 2017 version.

One thing people miss a lot about the first Wonder Woman is that Patty is honestly barely a part of the film. Snyder did most of the direction (which shows in the action, especially when compared to WW84).

Funny thing is, it showed a sign of WB fucking over Snyder because of their version of Ares being a regular joe:

Is way more, for the lack of a better term, neutered compared to the one Snyder wanted in:

However, the writing had a lot of one man handling the charge on Wonder Woman herself. Allan Heinberg. For those who have no idea, Allan Heinberg is considered the somewhat resident Wondie expert at DC since the 2000s, they get him for consultancy anytime they want a Wonder Woman story done right. Seriously, they use this dude to make crossover one-shots even now just because no one really knows how to make a Wondie story without making it some empowering girlboss shit.

We saw what happened when Patty gets full charge with WW84. Wondie is a rapist now who fought a pathetic Trump expy.

Melissa Benoist at least looked pretty in the CW series and had charisma.

Problem was the show was the worst woke propaganda had to offer.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=MopFOELg-Lk
https://youtube.com/watch?v=utu4RJiGaCk

This show is so bad that you can find an entire playlist dedicated to videos shitting on it, including the famous Supergirl Superfeminist Supercut trilogy.

Hell, PewDiePie made a video on it too

It led to an extremely pathetic response video by a CW shill.

Snyder, in a rare W realized Rorschach is /ourguy/ and made him the unambiguous hero and everyone else whores and hypocrites.

There’s only one character in Watchmen who Superman would shake hands with and isn’t the blue edgelord, the actual whore, the Silicon Valley homo or the fatass who “quit” when the going got tough.

Walter Kovacs is the hero.

The film also led to the best ALS Ice Bucket Challenge which clearly makes it the best adaptation of Watchmen.

Alan Moore could never...

Seriously tho, nukes are cooler than the alien to me.

 

[Incecticyder]

I mean you could take that level of amplification and apply it to literally everything - "1940s US politicians were MAGA but 80 years removed" - but I still fail to see WW1 commanders being, well, WW1 commanders being extended to Luddendorf cackling like Skeletor with his subordinate while listening to the German high command getting melted by their magic gas.

There is a huge difference between those. 70 years is not the same as 30. In the end, you can say that Luddendorf is just some sadist. WW1 was the last war in which war was seen as something you could just do. That is why both sides decided to "just have a war". Generals and politicians still thought of war as something like a meeting with weapons meant to redistribute land.

 

[The greater a'tuin]

Also, while the Comicsgate thread talked about it, shouldn't this thread address Andrew Farago too? He wrote licensed comics for DC, no?

Never heard of him before this, but a woke loser getting dunked on is always delightful.