Cure for Gender Dysphoria?

[Colon capital V]

I'd say treat GD like masturbation. Go outside more, talk to some folks, do somethings but not masterbation. In fact, I'd say you should stop chasing the coom hit as your first step in fixing your GD.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_77]

i dont wanna get my dick cut off. i dont know what that makes me but i dont want that particular surgery. I hate my height, shoulders, voice, body hair, veins etc. i used to ignore it and fill my time and dissasociate, but for the past two years i havent been able to do it . it might be a nervous breakdown or something. anxiety attack since the second i wake up. ignoring mirrors etc. the whole thing. so when i say i cant function means that every tiny task makes me want to kms lol. its rlly intense

Good. The modern Trans acceptance movement is an astroturfed ad for the plastic surgery and pharmaceutical industries. Taking hormones and submitting to SRS will absolutely fuck up your entire life but SRS to a much greater degree. SRS is basically body horror genital mutilation:

This person now farts out of their neovag:

https://kiwifarms.pa/threads/landon...raggot-niobiumprincess-niobiumempress.114917/

Here's a more generalized thread:

https://kiwifarms.pa/threads/srs-and-grs-surgeons-and-associated-horrors.76786/

Regardless how you currently feel, going down this path with fuck your life up to such a degree that the suicide rate has become a meme.

 

[Wallace]

I hate my height, shoulders, voice, body hair, veins etc. i used to ignore it and fill my time and dissasociate, but for the past two years i havent been able to do it . it might be a nervous breakdown or something. anxiety attack since the second i wake up. ignoring mirrors etc. the whole thing. so when i say i cant function means that every tiny task makes me want to kms lol. its rlly intense

Could you elaborate on why you hate these parts of you? You said that exercise made it worse.

 

[horseorigin]

Peepee = Male
Vagoo = Female

For trannies, It’s about all about the spirit of womanhood. Not the biological-carbon-copy-down-to-a-cellular-level of womanhood.

 

[Viv]

Echoing the previous poster - could you go into more detail on what you feel your body should look like, bit by bit, and what is wrong with it now in your view in its function or fit?

I am not being facetious, I have a hard time grasping it because the only consideration I ever give my body is whether it is fit, washed/groomed and healthy. That's where it begins and ends.

If I woke up a woman tomorrow, it would be irritating but overall irrelevant - I'd just have to emphasize different areas more during weightlifting because they need more strengthening in a female body (and buy one of them silicone hoohah cups).
Essentially I can't imagine what it feels like having a dysphoric body, because I can't even grasp a phoric body I guess lol.

Is your body currently fit, healthy and washed/groomed (even if it's the wrong one to your brain)?

ok, ill try, i never attempted to describe it in the og post cuz its way too much. When i was 3-4 i became conscious of being a boy. at first i wanted to be a girl bc of the clothes, toys and shit like that. i had to be ok with being a male and it worked for a while. i was feminine and allowed to play w what i wanted. the way i saw myself was like "neither male or female" and tried to make abstraction of my body. i always thought i was hideous, even at that age, although i was an objectively cute kid and liked by everyone.

shit hit the fan at puberty when i shot in height and have been 6'3 since the age of 14 lol. all changes started happening and i started not looking in the mirror. it was a state of general distress but (after trying years later to decipher through therapy what happened) i focused on particular features. looking back, i did that to avoid seeing the bigger picture. aka that im male. i had two years of obsessing over my brow bone and how big it was,,, and then my nose and hands. i think my hands were the first thing i noticed. i had an actual nervous breakdown in 8th grade when i saw my year end school pictures. i felt like "is this what i look like?!?!" followed by two months of crying and sleepless nights. and then i got eating disorders etc etc. i think what happened the day i saw those pictures was me being pulled out of the void of obsessing over individual features and seeing myself for what i was, male. i never thought i was a girl, never "felt like a woman". definitely subconsciously wanted to be one and felt feminine. feeling like a man or a woman goes against my religious and spiritual beliefs. im a soul in male body but for some reason it feels wrong, but the realization that i was *ACTUALLY* male was terrifying. please tell me if it makes sense.
i lifted weights, then starved myself until a year ago after my 18th birthday i decided i was gonna figure out wtf is wrong with me. then the dysphoria realization happened.
i used to ignore it all day long, listen to music 24/7 and egulf myself in whatever i could find. but i broke that kinda "barrier" with myself and everything ive ever ignored came to the surface in a way. like every emotion ive surpressed.
as of today, the dysphoria feels something like this: constantly being aware that im taller than most people, whenever i speak being disturbed by my own voice, my shoe size, the lenght of my limbs, the squareness of my jaw etc. feels like a stab in the chest. literally cant look at my face. its objectively almost- kinda- sorta handsome but if feels so wrong. when i imagine having softer features, a softer voice etc it brings me a kind of comfort, but its obviouslt not true. i guess its a nervous breakdown. im always aware of how much space a take up with my body. its extremely exhausting. if i knew that i had a chance at transitioning thing entire whirlwind of emotion would be easier to manage. but since its no end in sight it feels like a death sentence. it sounds dramatic but im a faggot and have to make everything as dramatic as possible. thats how it feels tho. does it clear anything up? a lot of trans ppl would describe it the same. unless of course you ask the trans lesbians and all they talk abt is girldick , having titties and being valid. i dont relate to them lol.
I doubt i have autism or OCD or whatever people try to blame it on. cuz this is the only aspect of my life where it happens.

 

[Viv]

i wrote a long reply to someone where i explained how it feels. one of the last comments i wrote

Men come in all shapes and sizes physically, and countless varieties mentally, so what specifically makes you hate your version? Obviously there is a sharp break from how you feel and what you see, but what does that mean? Do you just mean you've always felt like a woman?

Just saying you hate your body isn't specific enough to offer advice on how to deal with that. Like, if I got fat I would probably hate it enough to do something about it. I'd eat better and exercise more. But clearly this is something much deeper , however, without understand specifics it's going to be hard for anyone to give real advice.

 

[Viv]

I hope you at least realize, self-flagellating and ripping yourself apart are not the answer to your pain. Why be so hard on yourself? It changes nothing. Maybe you are trans. That’s not the end of the world. You can make it work. You may not be a natal woman, sure. But you could also never be anyone other than who you are…on all levels. Not just being trans, but the same with your personality, nature, habits, psyche, etc…you are who you are for a reason. You weren’t born trans on accident. If I were you, I’d focus less on “curing” myself. I would focus more on “what makes me truly happy?” And if referring to myself as a woman (despite being a biological male) made me happy, I’d stay in my own little lane and focus on that, as well as hobbies and other things that bring me wholesome joy. I’d try to remind myself that I’m not my pain or my hurt. I would also do these away from the opinions of others, because you seems to carry a great deal of shame that isn’t even yours to carry, when it comes to how trans people are perceived. You don’t have to always understand your pain. If you can, try to say at least 1 kind about yourself today, then carry it into tommorow. Keep building on it until by the end of the week, you’ve at least said 7 positive, lovely things about yourself. That’s not nothing.

a very kind comment, finally. thank u Maybe i am too hard on myself, maybe i have to process these emotion at this moment in my life, Im not delusional about what a trans person is and tbh a lot of trans people arent either. im als terrified 1.) being ugly/ ridiculous looking and not passing (which wont happen ever) and 2.) becoming like the people you see online. im afraid that by going this route ill end up like them. im definitely much more progressive than kiwifarms but not as crazy as a lot of lgbt rainbow ppl today. i want to feel comfortable in my body a have a normal life. i have my interests and personality but this is almost like an illness that took over. If theres a way out of this suffering, which for a lot of people it isnt, then ill come out the other side seeing the purpose of being born with this. i hope its a learning experience and not a thing ill suffer with my whole life. thank u for taking me seriously lol

 

[Wallace]

I see that you certainly feel a need to dissociate yourself from your body since it gives you so much anxiety. That certainly does sound like social anxiety and not gender dysphoria. It is normal to be self-conscious as your body changes. I would not rule out OCD either.

Let's try this: what does being a man mean to you?

 

[Viv]

For trannies, It’s about all about the spirit of womanhood. Not the biological-carbon-copy-down-to-a-cellular-level of womanhood.

well is that inherently wrong, as long as youre open and ackgnowlege what u are?

 

[Viv]

That certainly does sound like social anxiety and not gender dysphoria. It is normal to be self-conscious as your body changes. I would not rule out OCD either.

ive said this since i was 14. this excuse is old and tried. clearly theres more. my body change a while ago... ive been looking 40 since i was 13 lol.

 

[Viv]

That certainly does sound like social anxiety and not gender dysphoria. It is normal to be self-conscious as your body changes. I would not rule out OCD either.

ive said this since i was 14. this excuse is old and tried. clearly theres more. my body change a while ago... ive been looking 40 since i was 13 lol.

 

[Viv]

I see that you certainly feel a need to dissociate yourself from your body since it gives you so much anxiety. That certainly does sound like social anxiety and not gender dysphoria. It is normal to be self-conscious as your body changes. I would not rule out OCD either.

Let's try this: what does being a man mean to you?

being a man to me is kinda void of any meaning. im gay and non conforming so i never felt like manhood was going to be opressing. having a male body tho? thats different

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

For trannies, It’s about all about the spirit of womanhood. Not the biological-carbon-copy-down-to-a-cellular-level of womanhood.

But what if you live in the real world, and not in a fantasy land where you can declare yourself to be something you're not and have everyone agree?

 

[horseorigin]

well is that inherently wrong, as long as youre open and ackgnowlege what u are?

Not at all, imo. I think it’s fascinating.

 

[Viv]

Good. The modern Trans acceptance movement is an astroturfed ad for the plastic surgery and pharmaceutical industries. Taking hormones and submitting to SRS will absolutely fuck up your entire life but SRS to a much greater degree. SRS is basically body horror genital mutilation:

This person now farts out of their neovag:

https://kiwifarms.pa/threads/landon...raggot-niobiumprincess-niobiumempress.114917/

Here's a more generalized thread:

https://kiwifarms.pa/threads/srs-and-grs-surgeons-and-associated-horrors.76786/

Regardless how you currently feel, going down this path with fuck your life up to such a degree that the suicide rate has become a meme.

fuck it up worse than it is now?

 

[Bean Salad]

I can understand how you must feel in the context of my own experience having an ocd-like disorder. Starting medication (SSRI or similar) was what took the edge off the impulsiveness so I was able to think through it without being dramatic as you say.
You understand this shit is all in your head and that spiralling into these tiny details is wrecking you, its really so similar. Def look into body dysmorphia, ocd. You might not have had explicit trauma but if your brain chemicals are already off balance and vulnerable, you can end up latching on to something like this. Disclaimer not medical advice etc

 

[BULLY HUNTER_77]

fuck it up worse than it is now?

Quantifiably yes. Things can and will get worse for you if you go down this primrose path. You will live in constant physical pain and misery in addition to what you're currently feeling.

I don't have a solution for you other than objective evidence that what is pushed by the mainstream will make your life worse. IDK, maybe get a Second Life account or play some other video game that will allow you to digitally design your perfect body? Bald men and fat men/women also live in bodies that they'd rather not live in. They tend to cope by living vicariously through fictional characters - maybe that will work for you?

 

[Illuminati Order Official]

I post on here once in a while but this time im really looking for someone to talk to about this. i have horrible GD and my life has been a living hell since a can remember. Transitioning and moving on would be impossible for me

Why of all the places you bring it up here?
See a mental health professional. If you already do and you get no results - try different approach (if psychoanalysis doesn't work - try behavioral therapy).
This is a gossip and humor forum, we can't help you.

 

[Colonel Tubarov]

ok, ill try, i never attempted to describe it in the og post cuz its way too much. When i was 3-4 i became conscious of being a boy. at first i wanted to be a girl bc of the clothes, toys and shit like that. i had to be ok with being a male and it worked for a while. i was feminine and allowed to play w what i wanted. the way i saw myself was like "neither male or female" and tried to make abstraction of my body. i always thought i was hideous, even at that age, although i was an objectively cute kid and liked by everyone.

shit hit the fan at puberty when i shot in height and have been 6'3 since the age of 14 lol. all changes started happening and i started not looking in the mirror. it was a state of general distress but (after trying years later to decipher through therapy what happened) i focused on particular features. looking back, i did that to avoid seeing the bigger picture. aka that im male. i had two years of obsessing over my brow bone and how big it was,,, and then my nose and hands. i think my hands were the first thing i noticed. i had an actual nervous breakdown in 8th grade when i saw my year end school pictures. i felt like "is this what i look like?!?!" followed by two months of crying and sleepless nights. and then i got eating disorders etc etc. i think what happened the day i saw those pictures was me being pulled out of the void of obsessing over individual features and seeing myself for what i was, male. i never thought i was a girl, never "felt like a woman". definitely subconsciously wanted to be one and felt feminine. feeling like a man or a woman goes against my religious and spiritual beliefs. im a soul in male body but for some reason it feels wrong, but the realization that i was *ACTUALLY* male was terrifying. please tell me if it makes sense.
i lifted weights, then starved myself until a year ago after my 18th birthday i decided i was gonna figure out wtf is wrong with me. then the dysphoria realization happened.
i used to ignore it all day long, listen to music 24/7 and egulf myself in whatever i could find. but i broke that kinda "barrier" with myself and everything ive ever ignored came to the surface in a way. like every emotion ive surpressed.
as of today, the dysphoria feels something like this: constantly being aware that im taller than most people, whenever i speak being disturbed by my own voice, my shoe size, the lenght of my limbs, the squareness of my jaw etc. feels like a stab in the chest. literally cant look at my face. its objectively almost- kinda- sorta handsome but if feels so wrong. when i imagine having softer features, a softer voice etc it brings me a kind of comfort, but its obviouslt not true. i guess its a nervous breakdown. im always aware of how much space a take up with my body. its extremely exhausting. if i knew that i had a chance at transitioning thing entire whirlwind of emotion would be easier to manage. but since its no end in sight it feels like a death sentence. it sounds dramatic but im a faggot and have to make everything as dramatic as possible. thats how it feels tho. does it clear anything up? a lot of trans ppl would describe it the same. unless of course you ask the trans lesbians and all they talk abt is girldick , having titties and being valid. i dont relate to them lol.
I doubt i have autism or OCD or whatever people try to blame it on. cuz this is the only aspect of my life where it happens.

Please know some people want to help make life bearable for those who suffer in some fashion. I am saddened you are suffering.
In short, there is no known cure for Gender Dysphoria, much as there is no cure for Schizophrenia.
I have found people who can live had Gender Dysphoria who can pass and live, for the most part, ordinary lives, as I found Schizo doing such. The question is if one can pass and conform to society's standards. One would have to work with an expert that won't enable laziness and give one an honest reality of their situation their ability to pass.
The remedy that helps people I found is a religion that suits their personality traits.
Another remedy is that volunteering can help build one's self-worth and confidence.
One other remedy is finding a hobby that can decompress mental and emotional distress, such as writing, drawing, and sculpturing.
All I can offer is a sympathetic ear; maybe that can at least be a start.
But to be clear, I don't foster a world of delusions.

 

[Bloitzhole]

i always thought i was hideous, even at that age

Odd that it's that early. Are you aware of an external influence in early childhood that suggested to you that you're hideous or undesirable?

constantly being aware that im taller than most people, whenever i speak being disturbed by my own voice, my shoe size, the lenght of my limbs, the squareness of my jaw etc. feels like a stab in the chest. literally cant look at my face

The thing is, in your post, from an outside perspective, it never sounds like you want to be female (except for one brief line where you say you definitely wanted to subconsciously, but not consciously) - but rather that you do NOT wish to be male or in a male body. Now this might sound like the same thing, but consider: You could simply have developed a very unhealthy relationship towards your body, because it is your body.
We associate softness and a less deep voice with females, but the way you describe it, it's not that those things are female that makes you desire them, but rather the fact that they are the opposite of the traits you do possess - it just so happens that traits that are opposed to male traits are often found in females.
Does that make sense or am I being incongruous? It sounds less like troonism and more like a generalized body dismorphic disorder.

Are you happy with your current mental health professional and do you feel you have a good rapport with them?