Cure for Gender Dysphoria?

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Please know some people want to help make life bearable for those who suffer in some fashion. I am saddened you are suffering.
In short, there is no known cure for Gender Dysphoria, much as there is no cure for Schizophrenia.
I have found people who can live had Gender Dysphoria who can pass and live, for the most part, ordinary lives, as I found Schizo doing such. The question is if one can pass and conform to society's standards. One would have to work with an expert that won't enable laziness and give one an honest reality of their situation their ability to pass.
The remedy that helps people I found is a religion that suits their personality traits.
Another remedy is that volunteering can help build one's self-worth and confidence.
One other remedy is finding a hobby that can decompress mental and emotional distress, such as writing, drawing, and sculpturing.
All I can offer is a sympathetic ear; maybe that can at least be a start.
But to be clear, I don't foster a world of delusions.
you mean pass physically. that will never happen to me. thats why im this way. im 6'3. i wouldve done it already otherwise. i draw and make art but i cant care anymore. im in so so much pain mentally that i live kinda like a handicapped person. i still lie to myself from time to time that ill be fine with being a man
 
Ofc an *actual* transition doesnt exist, but i dont think this denies it. My feeling def arent as negative but ive felt (sorry for the cliche) trapped in my body long before i knew what trans was. im not self obsessed, but im in pain and when ur in that state, its the only thing one can think of. I wanna move on and experience the world. But not while barely making it through every night. " ignoring it" is childish cuz its obviously not gonna go away, regardless of how big my dick is lol.
Delay in response since I'm busy today, sorry

'trapped in my body' your body is your only mode of existence, what does this mean? You can never leave it until you die, and who knows what happens after that point. Even if you get surgery and hormones its still the same body after all

'I'm in pain' are you self harming? Or are these emotions? I know nowadays it's not in vogue to try to control your emotions but it's still possible regardless. I used to sit around and freak out for hours before learning how to distract myself intil the mood passes.

I'm just telling you, what worked for me was actively countering those thoughts each time they came up until my outlook changed. It took years but it worked. You have to remain consistent. Accepting that you will not be perfect and just working on real stuff that can be changed like weight, health, demeanor.

'Barely making it through every night' so you are contemplating suicide and already have a plan lined up is what I imagine this means? If you're so desperate as to end your life, what do you have left holding you back? You could do anything. You could just start walking in one direction and not stop. You could strike up conversations with all sorts of randos- this is how I've heard the most interesting and heartbreaking stories in my life.

I don't know what else to say since you seem pretty stubborn, I know I was flippant in my first response since that's how I trained my kneejerk reaction to be with trans logic- but I'm still rooting for you. Good luck.
 
Odd that it's that early. Are you aware of an external influence in early childhood that suggested to you that you're hideous or undesirable?


The thing is, in your post, from an outside perspective, it never sounds like you want to be female (except for one brief line where you say you definitely wanted to subconsciously, but not consciously) - but rather that you do NOT wish to be male or in a male body. Now this might sound like the same thing, but consider: You could simply have developed a very unhealthy relationship towards your body, because it is your body.
We associate softness and a less deep voice with females, but the way you describe it, it's not that those things are female that makes you desire them, but rather the fact that they are the opposite of the traits you do possess - it just so happens that traits that are opposed to male traits are often found in females.
Does that make sense or am I being incongruous? It sounds less like troonism and more like a generalized body dismorphic disorder.

Are you happy with your current mental health professional and do you feel you have a good rapport with them?
I find male bodies very attractive. but not on me. I can admire and dont feel any resentment towards masculinity BUT knowing my body is that way just feels wrong, i get the difference between wanting to be female and wanting to not be male. its both for me i think. i would be fine with being an ugly or more masculine woman, so its not a standard i have in my mind.

can u pls explain what troon actually means? i know technically what it represents but im not sure. psychiatrists where im from are kinda useless tbh. and very uninformed. im in my own. i got prescribed prozac but didnt take it. i figured, if i dont go through this now, ill end up 35 and nothing about myself figured out. but clearly thats not taking me anywhere.
 
you mean pass physically. that will never happen to me. thats why im this way. im 6'3. i wouldve done it already otherwise. i draw and make art but i cant care anymore. im in so so much pain mentally that i live kinda like a handicapped person. i still lie to myself from time to time that ill be fine with being a man
to be completely fair:
my mom was 6'2 and a half. she had a really deep voice and huge jawline...
but she's my mom. my brother takes after a lot of her features.
 
I find male bodies very attractive. but not on me. I can admire and dont feel any resentment towards masculinity BUT knowing my body is that way just feels wrong, i get the difference between wanting to be female and wanting to not be male. its both for me i think. i would be fine with being an ugly or more masculine woman, so its not a standard i have in my mind.

can u pls explain what troon actually means? i know technically what it represents but im not sure. psychiatrists where im from are kinda useless tbh. and very uninformed. im in my own. i got prescribed prozac but didnt take it. i figured, if i dont go through this now, ill end up 35 and nothing about myself figured out. but clearly thats not taking me anywhere.
A troon is someone who claims to be transgender for personal gain, like making money or getting access to women's spaces. Think Rhys MacKinnon or Clymer.

As far as meds go, you really should try them. The meds won't solve your problems on their own, but they can help to make the anxiety you are feeling more manageable. If Prozac doesn't work for you or the side effects are unacceptable, you can try others.

You mentioned being gay. Does that factor into your need to not be perceived as male?
 
being a man to me is kinda void of any meaning. im gay and non conforming so i never felt like manhood was going to be opressing. having a male body tho? thats different

I have heard that there are a lot of gay people who are coming to grips with their own sexuality that are being pushed to consider themselves as trans when they aren't. This is something that gay sex columnists have written about any may be worth looking in to.

If you're attracted to other men, there's obviously some characteristics that you must find attractive in men. Are there certain types of men you are or aren't attracted to? Do you consider your body something else that other men wouldn't find attractive? I'm assuming that you want to be fucked by other men, but that due to the way you feel about yourself you've had limited sexual encounters.


fuck it up worse than it is now?

The effects of cosmetic surgery are obviously permanent and it seems like you recognize this and don't want to go down that road. Taking hormones can produce similar long last effects. If your situation has made you constantly upset and feeling awful, it can be difficult to imagine that things could get any worse. There are a lot of ways your life could get much worse.

Are there any drugs you take or other ways that you attempt to self-medicate your emotional state?

Also, I do find the early childhood preference for "girly" things to be interesting. Are those activities you engage in at today or have you shunned them to try to conform to the gender roles associated with your biological sex?
 
If you can't get proper therapy and medication, have you considered just fucking nuking your brain with psychedelics? Obviously real treatment is better, but if you can't get that and you're at the end of your tether a lot of people with various issues have reported feeling better after doing that. It doesn't just fix things per se, but it can help you zero in on the underlying problems or the path that led you to that point so when you come back to earth you know what steps you need to take to make things better.

It'd be a better last resort than transitioning.
 
I find male bodies very attractive. but not on me. I can admire and dont feel any resentment towards masculinity BUT knowing my body is that way just feels wrong, i get the difference between wanting to be female and wanting to not be male. its both for me i think. i would be fine with being an ugly or more masculine woman, so its not a standard i have in my mind.

can u pls explain what troon actually means? i know technically what it represents but im not sure. psychiatrists where im from are kinda useless tbh. and very uninformed. im in my own. i got prescribed prozac but didnt take it. i figured, if i dont go through this now, ill end up 35 and nothing about myself figured out. but clearly thats not taking me anywhere.
I am not a licensed psychotherapist nor do I work in this field, though I've had reasons to write papers related to and incorporating psychology while pursuing my degree in a different field. I would urge you however, not to take my words as some gold standard.

I also urge you to take prozac for 90 days if it was prescribed to you and make a decision at that point - reevaluate after that period. If you decide not to continue it, that's fine, lower the dose over the course of 10 days and no harm done. Do not simply start and then randomly stop and drop to 0, that's a surefire way to temporarily swing your mood to various extremes from euphoria to real suicidal.

SSRIs (like prozac) have a host of benefits and drawbacks that appear and disappear over the first 2 months in varying intensities before settling to a clear pattern and as such, they are more effective for some than for others - if it was prescribed to you by a professional, give it a chance.

Trooning or Gender Dysphoria is defined as
"clinically significant distress or impairment related to a strong desire to be of another gender, which may include desire to change primary and/or secondary sex characteristics" and I see no reason to add to or use more paragraphs from the DSM there.

I would urge you to FULLY read the DSM on body dysmorphia however, as a lot of what you describe fits very well there, especially those behaviors relating to obsessing over small things initially. Both the small text on the left from the older DSM-IV and the large.

If you can't get proper therapy and medication, have you considered just fucking nuking your brain with psychedelics?
Should the prozac not work, well, there is a small amount of anecdotal evidence that psilocybin (magic mushrooms) can assist with various disorders of the type in some way - again, if the prozac does not take after 90 days, slowly lower the dose to 0 over the course of 10 days. Then maybe mull that option over, Hoi Polloi has a point there. At 18 I'd be careful with that though, I wouldnt until early to mid twenties.

Again, I am not a doctor. Ask a doctor about this shit ideally, not some rando on the internet.
 
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I find male bodies very attractive. but not on me. I can admire and dont feel any resentment towards masculinity BUT knowing my body is that way just feels wrong, i get the difference between wanting to be female and wanting to not be male. its both for me i think. i would be fine with being an ugly or more masculine woman, so its not a standard i have in my mind.

can u pls explain what troon actually means? i know technically what it represents but im not sure. psychiatrists where im from are kinda useless tbh. and very uninformed. im in my own. i got prescribed prozac but didnt take it. i figured, if i dont go through this now, ill end up 35 and nothing about myself figured out. but clearly thats not taking me anywhere.
Honestly, it sounds like to me, not only do you wish for your body to match that of a biological "woman," but be attractive. I do not believe being an "ugly woman" will be enough overcome the dysphoria.
The sad truth is that plenty of biological women suffers from dysphoria. Usually, the remedy I found for their dysphoria is being a mother. There are always men who will slip it in from the back. Ideally, being a mother typically brings mental changes that override dysphoria.
In the end, aesthetics is relative.
Have you ever done drag? You can hire a make-up expert to show you how you would look like a somewhat passing woman. Maybe that can at least alleviate your pain a bit or have something to distract you from the dysphoria. There are plenty of men who live their lives and do drag. Maybe the drag community can help you, but I am unfamiliar with the sort.
The natural outcome is that even if one does transition, the dysphoria won't go away, as exceptionally, rarely can a transwoman share the same attractiveness as that biological woman.

I do not recommend any mental drugs, much like the horrors of SRS; I have seen the horrors those drugs can do to people. It's all guesswork bullshit. But, it might help a little or make you go over the edge. Although seeing my friend come down from these drugs is rough, I don't think it outweighs the risk.
Now psychedelics, in the other hand...
 
I will straight away just point out: I am not a medical professional in any capacity, so when you read what I say below, keep that in mind.

The human psyche is capable a lot of things, and our mind can do things to us, even without noticing the shift or how we got there. Many things can affect it. Upbringing, food, our very first years from before we can remember, the chemistry in our brain, even medications.
We are also have plenty of defense mechanisms, which function subconsciously.

If you take a quick glance at the tranny-threads here, and well anywhere on the internet, there are some very glaring commonalities that seem to pop out to most folks reading. Many of them do not pass, many clearly take no care of themselves, many do not even try. Did not before they put on the spinny-dress, did not after either. Plenty of them have some form of personality disorders, or mental illnesses. I would mention autism, but I feel it has become the modern ADHD, and is thrown about like candy to explain people who just do not want to improve social skills or partake in society (personal opinion of course).

Many were also like you. Thinking transitioning would somehow fix the issues, the dysphoria, they could live all their fetishes, all their "depression" disappear, and it would be all flowers and hearts with glitter and rainbows. Truth is, they wouldn't be gone. In fact, usually, it appears to get worse. Many end up with more problems than before. Both in regards to health, but also in regards to their mental state and personality disorders. Suicide thoughts, attempts, and successes appear to increase after "successful transition" not to mention the countless horrifying medical problems. If you do it, you will still not move on. Because you know you were born a man. This will always nag at you. Sit there and gnaw at you in the back of your head.

What I will suggest is doing what all totally those true and honest women did not.

Take care of yourself, mind and body. Get yourself into regular work out of some sort. Take care of your head as well.
Rid yourself of people feeding your demons. (if you are part of some fucktard incel shit, cut all ties now, same with all troon friendly contacts, people, online friends, forums etc.)
Find yourself people who don't feed your demons.
Do you have any undiagnosed disorders that effects the chemicals in your brain? (ADHD, Depression, bi-polar?)
Check if your are low on something. Vitamins, minerals, hormonal imbalance etc.
Do you take any medications that can fuck with your head?
Get a hobby that is not online, preferably more than 1. That you can master (the feeling of mastery is powerful)
Accept that you are insecure, scared, anxious, especially about your sexuality.
Stop displacing that onto your physical form and instead figure out why you, and perhaps those round you are trying to put yourself into this category, which surely will only make it worse for you. In all ways.
If this is a fetish, then treat it as such, and realize it is not your whole life. Keep it in the bedroom.
If you instead, just want to be a twink, live the dream? Accept you are a gay fairy, and just have fun with that I guess?

Accept the fact that you will probably never reach insane ideals, because usually, our ideals can be rather unrealistic and out there. It does not mean you can not be healthy, attractive, fun, and enjoy life. As for therapy, some therapists are coerced /feel forced to go along with the "I am totes a wamman" delusion in fear of being cancelled or worse, even if that is not the case. This could be why your therapy has been inefficient.
 
Don't make such a big deal about your gender.

Why do you want to be the other gender so badly? Is it so you can do other stuff and not have it make you a tomboy or a girlyman? If that's the reason, then just do what you wanna do anyway. Life is too short to care what others think

If it's because you get off to being the other gender, then you should probably go outside more
 
Please forgive all the powerlevelling, I went through something like this and I want to try to help to spare you the long years of gender confusion and mental illness by imparting some hard-won wisdom about transgenderism.
Hey buddy, I am female, but I too struggled with what I thought was 'gender dysphoria', long before there was a mainstream term for it, pretty much all of my conscious life, from about aged 9 to now (I am in my mid 20s). I had all of the traits and symptoms of the mental illness, but I made the mistake of believing that it was an immutable quality, and that it was a discrete quality disconnected from my past. These are both untrue. I tried transitioning, desperate for the kind of peace that I felt as a kid before I was in mental anguish over sexual dimorphism and gender roles. Before I started healing properly I was constantly angry and miserable, I hated myself and if I wasn't a violent and aggressive butch, I was dissociated and barely alive. I seriously considered suicide for most of my life. I'm not saying this for pity, or for any kind of clout, merely to establish that I understand how GD feels, and I know how crushing it can feel. I took exogenous testosterone for 3 years; at first, it seemed to help the incongruence, but it only treated the symptoms, it did not treat the actual mental illness.

Let me tell you here, transitioning can not, and will not, bring you the peace that you seek. I am still mentally fragile even all this time later, and I have had moments where I've had episodes of mental relapse into experiencing this profound mental distress of looking in the mirror and not recognising myself, of feeling that what is natural is truly "wrong" but trust me when I say that it does get easier. You can heal from this.

Firstly, take time to examine when you first ever felt these feelings. I felt it when I was very young, when I was talking to a girl about puberty, and I felt sad, and cheated, that I would have to become a woman and no longer be "one of the guys". You must understand that I was one of those rough and tumble tomboys as a child, I grew in the country, I wore my brothers' hand-me-downs, I was always playing basketball and getting into mischief, I had a short utilitarian haircut. Gender just wasn't acknowledged in my friend group, sex was immutable, of course, but we were all people first and foremost, and it was deeply distressing to imagine that I would suddenly be treated differently just on basis of the sex which I had no control over. Later, as puberty hit and sex segregation became more prevalent in social groups, when I lost nearly all of my male childhood friends for reasons I could not understand, I was exposed to extreme social pressures to shave, to stifle my personality and my naturally loud voice, to grow out my hair, to wear weird clothing, or else be viciously verbally and physically bullied by teenage girls (arguably the most cruel subspecies of man). This, coupled with exposure to very conservative religuous family members who also demanded I perform this bizarre, soul-crushing version of womanhood, made me feel as though I had no sense of personhood, no agency, no escape, and that I was nothing but a doll for everybody around me. I longed to be a man, and I hated everything associated with femininity, including my body that was changed by puberty, because I saw it (subconsciously) as evidence of my own subjugation and lack of personhood. Being male represented an escape, it represented freedom, because all of the traits I was routinely punished every single day for, were praised in men. I envied the mechanical advantages they had, skeletally and muscularly, in sports and scraps.

Abandoning escapism and transgenderism sucked, but when I examined my history and acknowledged that there is nothing wrong with my body, that I was merely facing the trauma that comes with being an autistic, gender non-conforming female, in a society that demands extreme gender conformity at the expense of self-expression, I saw a way out of this mental illness.

I am certain that something similar happened to you, and if you are on here, you are probably autistic too. With aspies, what is treated as normal social conditioning can feel deeply traumatic, I suspect that this is the reason why there is such a high comorbidity between nonfunctional autism and issues concerning gender identity.

Transitioning is the easy way out, learning to undo the self-hatred, trauma, and stifling of who you once were by terrible gender stereotypes and conditioning that begin when we are young, is hard, but it is possible. You probably don't have a concrete sense of self, because it's been buried under so much bullshit that the rest of society has thrust upon you. There is a part of you in your mind that is that scared kid who hates what puberty did to you, who hates that you are treated differently by bags of shit that see you as a stereotype, and not as the person that you are. It's time to comfort that kid in you and tell him everything you wish you had heard, and you'll eventually realise that you don't need to alter your sexual characteristics to feel peace. If whatever anguish you felt as a kid is resolved, the desire to transition will slowly fade. It'll get better, it has to, because you can't keep picking at the same old festering wounds forever.

If you feel safe, you are welcome to try using psychedelics to help with trauma processing, just make sure that you are in a safe space in nature, with sunlight and things that a child would enjoy, like strawberries and paints for a canvas. It seems to be helpful to make new memories that are carefree and joyful, and it shifts your perspective from obsessing over gender and physical appearance, to what your body can do and experience.

You got this OP, you can get better.
 
Try to find other ways to be feminine that don't involve transitioning, especially if you already know you won't pass. If you want to walk around your house in a dress, and it makes you feel better, who gives a shit. And if you don't feel like doing that, you can always just be an effeminate fop of a man. Whatever you do, we don't care. Unless you become a sexpest or something, in which case you end up on a thread like the rest of the delusional troons who act out of turn.
 
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