Cowboy Bebop Thread - Live-Action Adaptation cancelled after one season (it was shit)

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Just a little question, but the relationship between LesFaye and TroonGren makes me wonder... is it some creepy "if you're a lesbian, you should totally suck a tranny's girldick!" grooming for the audience?
Faye doesn’t interact with Gren at all in the live action adaptation.

Like I said, Gren does absolutely nothing in all ten episodes, he is a background character who hangs out at the off-brand Continental bar and gets to hold guns in the finale (but never fires). All the marketing and articles inflates how important he is (I’m glad it doesn't impede on what is already a horrible story), it’s a cheap ploy to get troons to watch, if I were one of them I’d be feeling let down because everything looked like he was going to be the leading tranny of the cast.

Edit: okay I totally misunderstood you because I just woke up, but no the lesbian shit is more like really tacky fanservice rebranded as woke.
 
Faye doesn’t interact with Gren at all in the live action adaptation.

Like I said, Gren does absolutely nothing in all ten episodes, he is a background character who hangs out at the off-brand Continental bar and gets to hold guns in the finale (but never fires). All the marketing and articles inflates how important he is (I’m glad it doesn't impede on what is already a horrible story), it’s a cheap ploy to get troons to watch, if I were one of them I’d be feeling let down because everything looked like he was going to be the leading tranny of the cast.

Edit: okay I totally misunderstood you because I just woke up, but no the lesbian shit is more like really tacky fanservice rebranded as woke.
"This adaptation got a FULL BLOWN TRANNY in it" is just the lesbian kiss from SW Plan 9 all over again, isn't it?

Something that the producers make a big deal out of and then it turns out to be entirely irrelevant and shoved to the background.
 
Faye doesn’t interact with Gren at all in the live action adaptation.

Like I said, Gren does absolutely nothing in all ten episodes, he is a background character who hangs out at the off-brand Continental bar and gets to hold guns in the finale (but never fires). All the marketing and articles inflates how important he is (I’m glad it doesn't impede on what is already a horrible story), it’s a cheap ploy to get troons to watch, if I were one of them I’d be feeling let down because everything looked like he was going to be the leading tranny of the cast.

Edit: okay I totally misunderstood you because I just woke up, but no the lesbian shit is more like really tacky fanservice rebranded as woke.
I mentioned before that Gren literally was put in the show due to last minute rewrites. He literally was never meant to be there until a theoretical season 2 (which is pretty unlikely now :optimistic:). It goes to show how overinflated the shows runtime is that they shoved a character in just to pad out the fact they had hour long episodes.
 
I mentioned before that Gren literally was put in the show due to last minute rewrites. He literally was never meant to be there until a theoretical season 2 (which is pretty unlikely now :optimistic:). It goes to show how overinflated the shows runtime is that they shoved a character in just to pad out the fact they had hour long episodes.
My memory is shit right now (thanks TBI) but a lot of those episodes weren’t a solid 50 minutes which is just…why? Am I just being autistic over episode lengths or does anyone else think the least a producer can do is make their episodes equal length?
 
Because of the fact that im a bit of a fucking autist, and Bebop is probably one of my personal, nostaglic favorite annie mays of all time, ive been realizing in hindsight how badly they fucked up green bird, probably the 2nd or so most iconic scene period of the anime, probably 2nd to the ending, and realized how fucking ***awful*** the fucking thing is in comparison, i am unaware if the videos of it i saw are cut to avoid copyright, but ive sought multiple copies barring torrenting so far (not that desperate yet) to see that and ive noticed some things

1. To start, the aformentioned by now changes wherein Julia is a 4dchess high IQ #girlboss and throws shoots Cho off the church are beyond fucking retarded, but that is obvious, this also causes the one split second where Spike drops the grenade at Vicious feet to be cut, because Cho cant be allowed to actually have some degree of badassery in this, for some reason
2. Cho soyfacing mid fall in comparison to real Bebop's stoic acceptance
3. The fucking flashbacks are not emphazised at all and shove Vicious out because its now girlboss Julia's turn, leading to Vicious completing his transformation into a fucking muppet
4. The flashbacks dont even mute the fucking sounds and they end up drowining out the fucking song for no fucking reason
5. Unless ive been watching a cut off to copyright clip, then nu bebop, despite the run-time increase overall, only gives 40 seconds to greenbird total, while the anime dedicated almost 2 to let the flashbacks and falling sink in and play out, worst part about this, is that they end up chopping the song from the mid point or so to the end, and it shows, badly
6. Of course, they end up cutting the resulting parallel between Julia and Faye's singing, and Spike's recovery out, because you cant let our bombastic, quirky MCU hanger on show have quiet moments

Tl;dr, this show's green bird is fat, and i would not have sex with it
 
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One of the worst things about these atrocious new adaptations is that when you look at individual scenes on Youtube, sooner or later, you will only find the new shit and not the actually good stuff from the OG shows.
 
My memory is shit right now (thanks TBI) but a lot of those episodes weren’t a solid 50 minutes which is just…why? Am I just being autistic over episode lengths or does anyone else think the least a producer can do is make their episodes equal length?
On traditional TV, that was necessary for broadcast scheduling purposes, but other than that, why? It's like making each chapter of a book the exact same length.
 
I finally watched a bit of the live-action adaptation because it kept popping up in my Netflix account. I'm not the biggest Cowboy Bebop fan, but when I heard that Netflix was doing a live action adaptation, I knew that a live-action Jet Black would be played by a nigga.
Wasn't there a leak or anouncement or some shit a while back that they were completely altering the story to be about aang being like a bald kid in highschool that gets super bender powers or some shit?
I think the actor playing Aang was born in 2009 or 2010, meaning he'll be like 11 or 12 when filming happens. But that seems on par for anything Netflix decides to make live-action. Not related to anime, but on the topic of Netflix and live-action adaptations, as someone who grew up watching Winx Club, I couldn't believe the live-action version actually made the animated show (which had a lot of glaring faults) look like a "masterpiece".

I've heard that Netflix is spending around $10M per episode on that One Piece adaptation, but I don't know how they're going to adapt it. Isn't the anime 1000+ episodes and the manga's still going? And some of the powers seem just, too cartoony for real life, even with "cutting edge" technology.
 
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That’s a Brianna Wu face right there.
 
I finally watched a bit of the live-action adaptation because it kept popping up in my Netflix account. I'm not the biggest Cowboy Bebop fan, but when I heard that Netflix was doing a live action adaptation, I knew that a live-action Jet Black would be played by a nigga.

I think the actor playing Aang was born in 2009 or 2010, meaning he'll be like 11 or 12 when filming happens. But that seems on par for anything Netflix decides to make live-action. Not related to anime, but on the topic of Netflix and live-action adaptations, as someone who grew up watching Winx Club, I couldn't believe the live-action version actually made the animated show (which had a lot of glaring faults) look like a "masterpiece".

I've heard that Netflix is spending around $10M per episode on that One Piece adaptation, but I don't know how they're going to adapt it. Isn't the anime 1000+ episodes and the manga's still going? And some of the powers seem just, too cartoony for real life, even with "cutting edge" technology.
The thing with Netflix or any distributor studio and live action is that they just fund it and it’s the staff that usually fucks up. One Piece can work if they just capture the essence of the story since it would be a bad idea to do a faithful adaptation of the manga with how long it is. One Piece surprisingly looks more faithful since the head writer for it is actually a fan, the casting is actually good, and Oda has more involvement with it. This is being optimistic but it’s a step forward compared to adaptations like Bebop and Deathflix where the people behind it have no understanding or knowledge about the source material aside from skimming it.
 
5. Unless ive been watching a cut off to copyright clip, then nu bebop, despite the run-time increase overall, only gives 40 seconds to greenbird total, while the anime dedicated almost 2 to let the flashbacks and falling sink in and play out, worst part about this, is that they end up chopping the song from the mid point or so to the end, and it shows, badly
Most of the things you listed off happen because everyone involved in the show's production is ass and they havent got a clue as to what made the anime a classic, but I think this one in particular plays out this way because episode 9 (the one before the finale) is nothing but a 50 minute flashback of Spike's backstory. Theres a lot of scenes of Spike and Julia in there, so Im guessing they didnt want to have a 2 minute flashback composed of things we just watched in the previous episode.

The solution to that problem would have been to scrap the terrible flashback episode entirely and just do it like the anime did, keeping it all subtle and implied. Really the solution to most of this shows problems would've been to just do it like the anime, which just goes to show that Netflix Bebop is pointless and trash.
 
The thing with Netflix or any distributor studio and live action is that they just fund it and it’s the staff that usually fucks up. One Piece can work if they just capture the essence of the story since it would be a bad idea to do a faithful adaptation of the manga with how long it is. One Piece surprisingly looks more faithful since the head writer for it is actually a fan, the casting is actually good, and Oda has more involvement with it. This is being optimistic but it’s a step forward compared to adaptations like Bebop and Deathflix where the people behind it have no understanding or knowledge about the source material aside from skimming it.
Sorry while reading this all I see is the 2000 Dungeons and Dragons movie playing in fron of my eyes. The love of the franchise doesn't amount to shit if they don't have the talent to do it. Although I do want to be wrong and the One Piece live adaptation doesn't suck.
 
Most of the things you listed off happen because everyone involved in the show's production is ass and they havent got a clue as to what made the anime a classic, but I think this one in particular plays out this way because episode 9 (the one before the finale) is nothing but a 50 minute flashback of Spike's backstory. Theres a lot of scenes of Spike and Julia in there, so Im guessing they didnt want to have a 2 minute flashback composed of things we just watched in the previous episode.

The solution to that problem would have been to scrap the terrible flashback episode entirely and just do it like the anime did, keeping it all subtle and implied. Really the solution to most of this shows problems would've been to just do it like the anime, which just goes to show that Netflix Bebop is pointless and trash.
Ah, so that explains it, i pretty much refused to watch it so i have no idea about it as a whole, just individual ruinings of the scenes, but still, wew
 
Sorry while reading this all I see is the 2000 Dungeons and Dragons movie playing in fron of my eyes. The love of the franchise doesn't amount to shit if they don't have the talent to do it. Although I do want to be wrong and the One Piece live adaptation doesn't suck.
I'm not saying it's going to be automatically good, it's just hat at least there will be more good faith behind it compared to the other live action offerings that came on Netflix by people who hated or didn't understand the point of the source material. But that's just me being optimistic

Most of the things you listed off happen because everyone involved in the show's production is ass and they havent got a clue as to what made the anime a classic, but I think this one in particular plays out this way because episode 9 (the one before the finale) is nothing but a 50 minute flashback of Spike's backstory. Theres a lot of scenes of Spike and Julia in there, so Im guessing they didnt want to have a 2 minute flashback composed of things we just watched in the previous episode.

The solution to that problem would have been to scrap the terrible flashback episode entirely and just do it like the anime did, keeping it all subtle and implied. Really the solution to most of this shows problems would've been to just do it like the anime, which just goes to show that Netflix Bebop is pointless and trash.
I need to watch that flashback episode because it sounds like it has focus on literally all the worst actors in the show. But seriously with how Nemec seems to view the show, it's going to be worse for Netflix Bebop since I guarantee there is going to be a happy ending (for season 2) with how he cried how he didn't want the show to have this dark dystopian view to it.
 
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I heard someone mention once that Yoko Kanno is a plagiarist. Is that true? Or is it just that the soundtrack kinda maybe sounds like some other theme song in the same genre?
It's jazz and blues, you're gonna come across similar-sounding music.

But now it wouldn't surprise me if the music for the live-action series isn't up-to-par if they didn't just outright use the OST and had no new music. It could be a case of where she half-assed it like with Brain Powerd (although it sounded half-assed simply because the visuals didn't seem to match up in the series and made the music unmemorable, it was a goddamn mess--which sounds similar to what happened here).
 
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