Charlie Kirk: Aftermath, Gravedancing, and Manhunt

Anyone know if that teacher from Chicago who mocks Kirks death was ever fired. The one from Nathan Hale Elementary. Last time I checked she was still there and the schools site was still blocked.
 
Can this faggot be threadbanned already? Five+ pages of him shitting up this thread with bullshit.
Im literally discussing Charlie Kirks shooting in the Charlie Kirk Shooting thread. You sound very mad at the internet!
I received a report in this thread about a one-on-one conversation (which, funnily enough reported the 1st person) being done here. Now, while this thread is about Charlie Kirk and his shooting, this is NOT Mass Debates. People use this thread to get updates about the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's shooting & the people who orbited his shooter etc. In the OP, it states this:
:null: Remember: People want to use this thread to find information. Please be informative. If you can submit postmarks, request postmarks on informative posts.

Do not get involved in pointless, emotional arguments. Nobody is going to change their minds. There's no point having emotional masturbation sessions here in public.
I have moved the derailment to this thread titled: "Debate @Israel's Top Guy about it's impossible for Tyler Robinson to be Charlie Kirk's killer"
 
I received a report in this thread about a one-on-one conversation (which, funnily enough reported the 1st person) being done here. Now, while this thread is about Charlie Kirk and his shooting, this is NOT Mass Debates. People use this thread to get updates about the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's shooting & the people who orbited his shooter etc. In the OP, it states this:

I have moved the derailment to this thread titled: "Debate @Israel's Top Guy about it's impossible for Tyler Robinson to be Charlie Kirk's killer"
Lmao is this not the charlie kirk shooting thread? Is discussing the charlie kirk shooting in the charlie kirk shooting thread off topic?

I made plenty of informative posts to back up my alternate hypothesis as well as provided information debunking the current fed narrative, all while keeping to the thread topic. Just because my posts are unpopular doesnt mean theyre wrong or off-topic.
 
Lmao is this not the charlie kirk shooting thread?
Yes.
So discussing the charlie kirk shooting in the charlie kirk shooting thread is off topic?
...you got into a debate about the shooting. This is the Happenings board, which is used for real-time event discussion. The topic which you debated about how Tyler Robinson could not have been the shooter is a debate, which you then argued with MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti & Fanatical Pragmatist. This thread is aftermath of the Charlie Kirk shooting (which happens to include Tyler Robinson's court/logs etc), not if Tyler Robinson could have or could have not been the Charlie Kirk shooter. That's why I moved that part of the conversation in Mass Debates.
 
...you got into a debate about the shooting.
Thats fair. Would you consider reinstating the effortposts I and others have made about .30-06 trajectories and acoustic analysis etc? Its important information related to the shooting and it would be a shame to let the thread slide back into moronic fed narrative parroting. People have to be allowed to present evidence counter to the official narrative.
 
Would you consider reinstating the effortposts I and others have made about .30-06 trajectories and acoustic analysis etc? Its important information related to the shooting and it would be a shame to let the thread to back into moronic fed believing
Sure. Could you link me these posts? I believe you are talking about this post, and this post, correct?
 
Sure. Could you link me these posts? I believe you are talking about this post, and this post, correct?
And this one from >Implying, if possible. He really poured over ww2 data to find that its statistically unlikely kirk could have been shot by a .30-06. You live up to your reputation of a chill mod and I apologise for mischaracterising you initially btw

Edit: i had the wrong post, youve already kept >Implyings analysis. Thanks. The post I linked is different but looks as useful/generative
 
And this one from >Implying, if possible. He really poured over ww2 data to find that its statistically unlikely kirk could have been shot by a .30-06. You live up to your reputation of a chill mod and I apologise for mischaracterising you initially btw

Edit: i had the wrong post, youve already kept >Implyings analysis. Thanks. The post I linked is different but looks as useful/generative
I moved them both over. I can also copy posts as well, which just clones the same post but then puts it in a different thread, but instead I've just moved it back here.
i had the wrong post, youve already kept >Implyings analysis. Thanks.
Always happy to help.
 
An interview with an investigative journalist Elizabeth Lane about the legal irregularities about the case:


(her show name is "beyond the matrix" so she's probably conspiracy minded. She sounds sharp, though)

She seems to correct specific points from Candace, while also supporting Candace's contention that there are unethical parts about the legal case.

She was also at the hearing, and said what parts were strange, not in the least that there were only about 20 journalists there. Then only 15 minutes in there was a recess and journalists weren't allowed back in after.

She expresses that she thinks it won't be a fair trial. And that Tyler Robinson was only present by video and he looked like a zombie and the only time he spoke was when he said his own name.
 
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An interview with an investigative journalist Elizabeth Lane about the legal irregularities about the case:
I was going to post this myself, thanks. Its REALLY WEIRD that Tyler wont even appear via webcam 🤷‍♂️

edit: dumb reacters are welcome to explain why its totally normal for the prime suspect in a highly publicised broad daylight assassination case to not appear in front of the judge and the public in any visual way on Jan 16th, despite him previously appearing via webcam during his arraignment. You can skip to 10:30 in Lemming's URL where she talks about it.
 
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Getting shot in the neck was actually rather rare, but I guess it's not too surprising considering how small a target it is relative to chest.
I think it's because you probably get riddled with bullets, most to other parts of the body, thereby splitting the %. The initial table with the cremated footnote says that neck wounds were seen in 20% of cases with shots above and below. So it's probably rare to just catch a single shot through the throat. Hell, Kennedy caught one there first before the follow-up coup de grâce.

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TLDR: It's not impossible for someone shot in the neck to have no exit wound.
Yep. I agree.

It's normal for people to fall 300 feet and die. It's a fatal height.
People have fallen 10k, 20k and 30000 feet, and have survived the drop.

It isn't inconceivable for a bullet to get lodged in a man's spine or ricochet off hard bone.
Weird things happen. The real world is like that.
 


Kent / Tulsi Gabbard wanted to investigate more about Charlie Kirk and was blocked out by Kashyap Patel.

A bid by Joe Kent, a top Gabbard ally who leads the National Counterterrorism Center, to investigate the circumstances of the conservative activist Charlie Kirk’s killing had already raised alarms at the F.B.I., after Mr. Kent went so far as to examine the bureau’s files.
 
Yep. I agree.

It's normal for people to fall 300 feet and die. It's a fatal height.
People have fallen 10k, 20k and 30000 feet, and have survived the drop.

It isn't inconceivable for a bullet to get lodged in a man's spine or ricochet off hard bone.
Weird things happen. The real world is like that.
In the thread split off from this one, I did a bunch of reading on wounds and ballistics. Ammo typically used in civilian contexts differs from military in that the bullets are typically softer so that they yaw immediately upon entry to fragment or mushroom. For hunting this is to prevent an animal getting a clean enter-exit wound so it can get away and just die elsewhere, the hope is one shot one kill. This means civilian ammo is more likely to kill but also less likely to punch clean through a person. Due to its softer material, a bullet travelling at high velocity (and given enough time to reach said velocity) is more likely to start deforming even prior to hitting the target, making it more likely to fragment or yaw and otherwise slowdown immediately or veer off the more or less straight line it hit the target at. This deforming is helped by some of the lead being scraped off the bullet as it leaves the barrel, with longer barrels scraping off more bullet whilst also helping it achieve a faster, more-likely-to-deform velocity.
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The bullet didn't necessarily even have to hit bone to not exit as it could've weakened enough in integrity - which it's supposed to do, assuming it's not FMJ - to fragment into enough pieces in his throat to come out the other end. Alternatively, it could've achieved enough yaw in his throat - a few cm - to alter course and hit his spine instead.

As morbid as this subject is, I did find it interesting to look into. Had Charlie been hit with an FMJ round the likelihood of no exit wound be very low sans the possible spine collision, which is still unlikely but not impossible given an FMJ round has 15% chance of yawing early according to the data in those PDFs.

Though having read all of this, it makes discussion over whether he was hit with a .30-06 or not rather pointless given it's still subject to the same structural flaws as most other civilian ammo types. If we could see the casings we can tell from mere observation whether the rounds were civilian or military. If the former, the likelihood of no exit wound is statistically more probable than not, if the latter, then it becomes statistically improbable.

JFK was shot with 6.5×52mm Carcano, a much weaker and older round than .30-06, but the first still travelled clear through his throat and into someone else. That round was military surplus (FMJ), giving it much greater penetration power and less aggravated wounds. Had Charlie been shot with FMJ, and the statistically higher (though not certain) lack of yaw occurred, and assuming no follow up shot like with JFK (He was similarly in a "not impossible to survive" scenario with the first shot), it's not impossible he could've survived the ordeal.

This doesn't detract from the conspiracies/alt-narratives entirely though:
(1) The shot was meant to be a non-lethal as a warning but the unlikely scenario occurred and he died instead. (Apparently a thing Mossad has done or something/agencies aren't immune to fuckups)
(2) We were told what were on the casings and not shown the casings themselves because if they were FMJ that may lend validity to the idea he's an asset or something. (I don't know if we were shown pictures of the bullets or not, or how easy/difficult it is to get .30-06 FMJ)
They're rebukeable but still. I think the "no exit wound" thing has too much plausible explanation behind it.
 

Four witnesses interviewed about the Charlie Kirk Assassination. No College students, 3 men between 35 and 60? and a 15 year old girl.

Unlike the constant suspicions I've had about other parts, these interviews seem completely legit to me. Not that there's anything specific discussed, it's more about how the event affected them than any specific facts.

They touch very lightly on people who viewed the event differently. One has a facebook page where he corrects people about details. The girl says to treat them like people and ask questions why they believe what they believe.
 
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