Debate @Israel's Top Guy about it's impossible for Tyler Robinson to be Charlie Kirk's killer. - MOD Note: Moved from the Charlie Kirk Happenings thread

But it still left no exit wound.
You wanted an example of someone getting shot with a .30-06 leaving no exit wound and there you go.
Look above, you are looking at an entry would (upper neck) and exit wound (lower neck). Do you suffer from bad reading comprehension or bad faith? Both?

You're not here to bring any evidence of your own, are you? I'd be happy if I were wrong.
Then you should go back a few pages and see the photoacoustics analysis I dug out that shows its highly likely kirk was actually shot in the spine to his right and what is considered a .30-06 entry wound is actually the exit wound of a smaller caliber bullet. People have other theories but thats what makes the most sense to me. We know charlie turned down kike donors, we know israel commits the most assassinations of any country existing, and we know that they owned tpusa wholesale. Also charlie wasnt even sent to the nearest hospital with a trauma ward, he was sent to a different hospital further away without a trauma ward (that google trends reveal israeli IPs were googling after kirk threatened to leave the pro israel movement. The surgeons there were also specifically googled around this time).
 
Yeah im talking about human necks buddy thanks for contributing 👍
My friend, you seem to not understand a few things. Humans are made of meat. Bone is surprisingly dense. Hollow point ammunition is designed to spread out like a flower and trap itself inside the body, rather than exit (it's often used as a "safer" round by police forces because of this, even though it's more likely to result in catastrophic internal injuries). A hollow point going into meat will spread and flatten, and if it encounters bone it is much more likely to stop dead almost instantly, sending a massive, disruptive shock wave the surrounding flesh and the bone itself. Kirk instantly popped a so-called fencing response when the bullet hit him, which indicated fatal trauma to the brain. A low calibre shot to the spine from the rear wouldn't cause that, but a shock wave caused by a higher calibre bullet lodging in his neck from the front definitely would.
 
Bone is surprisingly dense.
Spines, those notoriously tough bones that stop bullets all the time... Just like Fanatical Pragmatist's MLK example, where a .30-06 obliterated his neck. I can think of a few other things in this very thread that are surprisingly dense my friend. A smaller calibre shot to the spine absolutely would and DOES cause the fencing response you liar. Hahahahha
 
Spines, those notoriously tough bones that stop bullets all the time...
Unironically yes. Bullets lodging in bone are so common that they're used as human interest stories.

As I said, a hollow point is designed to break apart and cause damage within the body. It breaks apart to expend energy within the body, so if it encounters even a little resistance (such as bone), it will stop.
 
Then you should go back a few pages and see the photoacoustics analysis I dug out that shows its highly likely kirk was actually shot in the spine to his right and what is considered a .30-06 entry wound is actually the exit wound of a smaller caliber bullet.

How does "photoacoustic analysis" relate to "an example of hollowpoint .30-06 hitting humans or comparisons thereof" ?
 
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Unironically yes. Bullets lodging in bone are so common that they're used as human interest stories.

As I said, a hollow point is designed to break apart and cause damage within the body. It breaks apart to expend energy within the body, so if it encounters even a little resistance (such as bone), it will stop.
Ok youre not even engaging in reality at this point. kirks neck did not explode open the side of his neck that youre purporting to be an entry would. A .30-06, hollow point or not, would obliterate that flesh even if he had a wakandamantium skeleton bro. You're just making shit up
 
How does "photoacoustic analysis" relate to "an example of hollowpoint .30-06 hitting humans or comparisons thereof" ?
The burden of proof is on the person making an assertion. Im saying x didnt happen, you are saying x happened. I dont have to provide evidence for a negative. You seem to be confused
 
The burden of proof is on the person making an assertion. Im saying x didnt happen, you are saying x happened. I dont have to provide evidence for a negative. You seem to be confused
Yet you are implying there was a second and/or alternate shooter who used a different caliber.
The burden of proof is now on you to produce proof of this alternate shooter, the angle they took the shot from, video evidence of this shooter and literally anything credible stating a different caliber bullet was lodged somewhere in Charlie or found nearby.

So bad faith, then. You are denying the .30-06 exited MLKs before re-entering his body? Or?
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The entrance wound was through the right mandible, shattering it on entry. The bullet traveled through the right neck and then entered the right supraclavicular fossa (Fig 2). It injured the external jugular vein, vertebral artery, and subclavian artery on the right before it crossed through the right pleural space. It then crossed the midline, transecting the spinal cord at the junction of the cervical and thoracic cord. After passing through the cord, it lodged into the back near the left scapula. The bullet was retrieved and given to the Memphis police.
https://www.jvascsurg.org/article/S0741-5214(19)31808-7/fulltext
 
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Yeah, after it exited his neck (hence the exit wound). This is just obtuse at this point. Of course after traveling through that much human meat it will slow down. The neck is not as thick as the body of a human from shoulder to ass. I cant believe I have to actually type this out to ensure you cant wiggle out of arguing in good faith.

The burden of proof is now on you to produce proof of this alternate shooter, the angle they took the shot from
Yeah, the photoacoustics post is exactly that. Heres a video breaking down the theory with screenshots and video of where the potential actual shooter may have been: https://x.com/RealWMStudios/status/1971227561037332933
 
You're the one asserting the idea that he was shot from behind by an unseen gunman, which requires so much special pleading that it might as well be a Greer filing.
And? That doesnt invalidate that others here are asserting that a .30-06 hit kirk head-on despite that holding absolutely no weight in material reality. Do you think you made an argument or something?
 
Yeah, after it exited his neck (hence the exit wound). This is just obtuse at this point. Of course after traveling through that much human meat it will slow down. The neck is not as thick as the body of a human from shoulder to ass. I cant believe I have to actually type this out to ensure you cant wiggle out of
So you can't fucking read and misinterpret a photo & sketch.
arguing in good faith.
Okay Russel Greer.
Yeah, the photoacoustics post is exactly that. Heres a video breaking down the theory with screenshots and video of where the potential actual shooter may have been: https://x.com/RealWMStudios/status/1971227561037332933
No evidence the alleged angle in 0:26-0:32 lines up with the angle shown 0:34-0:39
0:55-1:01 deceptive camera angle, neck is blurred.
1:09 no proof the blood splatter is coming from the back and not more camera angle illusions
3:01 - 3:03 you can actually see fuckery with the video in the form of Charlie's shirt doing weird things.
3:13 camera angle and narration claiming Charlie is tensing up yet immediate following footage circa 3:16 showing Charlies arms and midbody being limber don't align with the "tensing up" commentary.
>asks to share lmao
6:45-7:26 no idea where the alleged photo comes from, blurry as fuck, and also doesn't line up with the angles shown initially

I'll probably end up going to more effort with this due to autism but I went looking into casualty and autopsy reports involving US armed forces in WW2.
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Single wound implies a single entrance wound but no exit wound.
Whilst it's not a common occurrence, out of 983 casualties, 400 died with a single entrance wound. Out of those 400, 21 were shot in the neck and had no exit wound for said shot. This means less than 10% of neck shots had no exit wound, so whilst the statistical unlikelihood is high, the chances of it happening aren't impossible.
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This is consistent with further data, which records a similar even smaller likelihood but again, the possibility is still there.

I'll keep looking in a bit. Obviously the contention is there over the exact wound, the calibre or bullet used in these instances, etcetera.


Getting shot in the neck was actually rather rare, but I guess it's not too surprising considering how small a target it is relative to chest.
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Thank God that ear casualty percentage is at 0%

On a particular morbid note, there's this remark:
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TLDR: It's not impossible for someone shot in the neck to have no exit wound.
This is really good, thank you!

What's also worth pointing out is that this likely includes ALL neck injuries (i.e. passes through an artery but doesn't hit bone) and not just those that made direct contact with the bone. So, while it accounts for about 1/10 of ALL neck injuries, we don't actually know the ratio of cases where the bullet explicitly hit the bone and lodged/ricocheted/shattered versus cases where the bullet explicitly hit the bone and passed through.

Furthermore, ammunition type is still a major factor at play, and ultimately right now we don't know anything about what Charlie was shot with versus the wounds up above.
 
That's funny, it doesnt look anything close to the length of a German Mauser Model 98 rifle, which can range between 43 to 49 inches. 🤪 thanks for posting proof of my claim *for* me
It should be criminal to be this fucking retarded.
is your name israel's top guy because you're the best in israel at poisoning the well?

When you argue a position poorly you end up moving people in the opposite direction.
Even Lemmingwiser thinks you're a retard, and he agrees with your conclusion. Can this faggot be threadbanned already? Five+ pages of him shitting up this thread with bullshit.
Don't be retarded.
Clearly, Kirk's neck just did that.
What high blood pressure does to a motherfucker
 
It should be criminal to be this fucking retarded.

Even Lemmingwiser thinks you're a retard, and he agrees with your conclusion.
Limmingwiser AFAIK is at least of the more plausible theory that Israel/ZOG/deep state groomed the tranny-fucker and possibly his schizo trooncel fuckdoll into killing Kirk.
 
Limmingwiser AFAIK is at least of the more plausible theory that Israel/ZOG/deep state groomed the tranny-fucker and possibly his schizo trooncel fuckdoll into killing Kirk.
To be clear, I don't have a singular specific theory. I just have deep doubts about the current neatly packaged story we got. There's been too many suspicious parts about it to accept the official version. Like even one or two I'd easily accept as coincidence but it's the grouping of things that make me suspicious. I care about the truth and I want the truth to be found. Here's the list of things I find suspicious, in no particular order:

1. The location where it happened was immediately remodeled.
2. TPUSA claiming that Kirk is a man of steel and the no exit wound is a miracle.
3. The video/imagery from the camera behind Kirk being immediately dismantled and never released
4. Trump Jr. not really answering that he has faith in the investigation, to the point the question has to be asked again, and then giving a bit of a weird response the second time. To me it sounds he's lying.
5. There a man (George Zinn) being present who was previously present at 9/11 and boston bomb attack, immediately claiming he'd done it, and pulling his pants down, and then immediately after being arrested for child porn. He shouted "I shot him! Now shoot me!".
6. The immediate denial by the head of state of Israel of any involvement
7. The TPUSA guy being physically prevented from talking to media interrupting his account of what he had just witnessed
8. The fight between Candace and TPUSA. Everything so far that she was said to be lying about (her friendship with him, charlie's doubts about supporting Israel) have been vindicated in her favor. You even have the bit where Josh Hammer says "I'm so happy to finally be able to talk about this" while looking deeply unhappy.
9. As converse, Brilyn Hollyhand ("Charlie Kirk's heir apparent" per Telegraph/wikipedia) saying it's heartbreaking while he looks jubilant
10. Mikey McCoy (chief of staff TPUSA) and his father's statements not lining up with each other, one or both are lying.
11. Kash Patel asking people to not share more video and media about Charlie Kirk, and also him lashing out against conspiracy theorists
12. Josh Hammer on 9 september 2025, right before the killing, tweeting "based" at a 12 year old Trump tweet about "should be public execution for all to see", and then also tweeting just the two words "public execution" after his death.
13. Charlie's entire security detail being Israeli (wouldn't be suspicious without #6, #12 and #8 )
14. Everyone having electronic glitches right at the time of the shooting (the only guy with the working livestream who supports the official narrative confirmed the glitches)


I really don't know if the trannyfucker shot him, I haven't seen sufficient evidence to doubt the shot itself. I don't rule out an alternate shooter or some explosive device. Considering what Mossad did with exploding walkie talkie's I don't put it outside of their capacity to do something more elaborate. I just know I don't trust the official story. I also didn't pay much attention to Candace, but when I gave some pushback on the official story here @Catch The Rainbow kept bringing up Candace, so I listened to some more of her stuff. She sounds to me like she's speaking what she believes to be true. She's never been the smartest person in a room, but it's not like she's a drooling retard either. The fact that she kept being brought up suggests to me that people really want to silence her.

Now what I don't want is people doing very bad or poor conspiracy theorizing. In fact, if I were to run a psyop, and I knew how to push some schizo's or have some agents on the downlow post some insane shit, that's what I'd do.
 
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