Debate @Israel's Top Guy about it's impossible for Tyler Robinson to be Charlie Kirk's killer. - MOD Note: Moved from the Charlie Kirk Happenings thread

Why do you think he hit Charlie in the neck? He wasn't aiming there, and him assembling the rifle poorly could have affected it if he was aiming for headshot or chest shot.
Why do you think a bullet fired in front of charlie resulted in an exit wound also from the front of charlie? I wont even bring up how youre saying a 30-06 to the neck would do anything less than decapitate the guy
 
Why do you think a bullet fired in front of charlie resulted in an exit wound also from the front of charlie? I wont even bring up how youre saying a 30-06 to the neck would do anything less than decapitate the guy
Why do you think it's an exit wound? Exit wounds are nasty and uneven, while the wound we saw in Charlie's neck was pretty perfectly round.
 
Exit wounds are nasty and uneven,
Correct! Which is why if Charlie were shot by what the fbi and court documents both claim was a .30-06 rifle round facing from the front, the back of charlies neck should have looked like this:

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That doesn't explain why you believe any other bullet coming from his back would make a perfectly round exit wound in the front.
A smaller calibre can and does create less problems exiting, and there are precisely 0 calibres that create an "entry" wound like what we see on charlie without creating a much larger exit wound. Do you also believe the surgeon who claims Charlie had bones of steel that stopped the .30-06 round?
“I just spoke with the surgeon who worked on Charlie in the hospital … He said the bullet ‘absolutely should have gone through, which is very very normal for a high-powered, high-velocity round,’ ” Kolvet said. ” ‘I’ve seen wounds from this caliber many times and they always just go through everything. This would have taken a moose or two down, an elk, etc.’


“But it didn’t go through. Charlie’s body stopped it.”

Also, do you now agree that a .30-06 round was impossible?
 
A smaller calibre can and does create less problems exiting, and there are precisely 0 calibres that create an "entry" wound like what we see on charlie without creating a much larger exit wound. Do you also believe the surgeon who claims Charlie had bones of steel that stopped the .30-06 round?


Also, do you now agree that a .30-06 round was impossible?
I'm not swinging this conversation in a circle back to "we know nothing about the ammo used" so I'll just end it here. It has generated plenty for others to read and make their own decisions about.
 
But I'm curious about your decision. With everything I've presented here, what do you now think?
I'll just say that as a Catholic I believe God can suspend what we call the laws of physics for his own purposes. I've shot a deer with .308 and it went clean through and I know the power of the 30-06 is higher than .308. Trump would have died if he didn't turn is head slightly in Butler. Someone might have died if the bullet went all the way through Charlie and maybe God prevented that.

All this to say it's speculation no matter what side of the argument we fall on and I'm much more inclined to believe footage I can investigate with my own eyes and mind over conspiracies that contradict the evidence I can see myself.
 
When is the next court hearing, retards?

16th of January so he can "kill himself" between now and then (I guess he'll just feel really guilty about it or something)

All this to say it's speculation no matter what side of the argument we fall on and I'm much more inclined to believe footage I can investigate with my own eyes and mind over conspiracies that contradict the evidence I can see myself.
Well to that, I couldn't agree with more. That's why I'm inclined to believe what looks like (and was acoustically proven to be) a spine shot from behind from a smaller calibre is more likely than GOD changing the physics of a .30-06. Happy to part ways here but I hope you give some reconsideration to the FBI bullshit youre being fed
 
But I'm curious about your decision. With everything I've presented here, what do you now think?
I still think the most evidence points to the tranny-fucking incel who climbed onto the roof with something that looked like a gun.

I'll just say that as a Catholic I believe God can suspend what we call the laws of physics for his own purposes. I've shot a deer with .308 and it went clean through and I know the power of the 30-06 is higher than .308. Trump would have died if he didn't turn is head slightly in Butler. Someone might have died if the bullet went all the way through Charlie and maybe God prevented that.

All this to say it's speculation no matter what side of the argument we fall on and I'm much more inclined to believe footage I can investigate with my own eyes and mind over conspiracies that contradict the evidence I can see myself.
This is also assuming the 'laws of physics' were actually suspended.

.30-06 Hollow Point right into bone is entirely plausible for it to have no exit wound.
 
No its not. Youre just lying to save face. You actually look more retarded than simply changing your position in light of new information. Show one example of a .30-06 being stopped by human neck bones.
is your name israel's top guy because you're the best in israel at poisoning the well?

When you argue a position poorly you end up moving people in the opposite direction.
 
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No, it exited his neck before re-entering down into his body. Here is the sketch of his entry and exit wound. Charlie should have looked very similar, yet he didn't.

Fig 2. Illustrations of Dr King's injuries based on autopsy photos and interviews. The artist, Ida Dox, was employed by the Select Committee on Assassinations of the U.S. House of Representatives, Ninety-fifth congress for the Investigation of the Assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr. A, Drawing of Dr King’s head and shoulders showing the path of the bullet (Volume I, page 57, MLK Exhibit F-10).

Edit: all the above is if you want to believe the feds narrative on the MLK assassination as well, which, if you do, then it contradicts what the feds now claim about charlie kirk. So.
 
But it still left no exit wound.
You wanted an example of someone getting shot with a .30-06 leaving no exit wound and there you go.

The entrance wound was through the right mandible, shattering it on entry. The bullet traveled through the right neck and then entered the right supraclavicular fossa (Fig 2). It injured the external jugular vein, vertebral artery, and subclavian artery on the right before it crossed through the right pleural space. It then crossed the midline, transecting the spinal cord at the junction of the cervical and thoracic cord. After passing through the cord, it lodged into the back near the left scapula. The bullet was retrieved and given to the Memphis police.

AFAIK we don't know the bullet type (FMJ, soft-point, hollow-point) from either shooting.
 
Yawn the downdoots arent working and neither are the moronic personal attacks. Can YOU present an example of a .30-06 being stopped by human neck bones?

I also can't present a video of world trade centers being hit by boeing 747's where they didn't fall down, but I don't believe that their collapse was caused by those planes. Your request is so hyperspecific.

Can you present an example of hollow point .30-06 causing an exit wound on a human with a weird big head like kirk?

You might find videos of non-hollowpoint, or on ballistics gel, or pig carcass and so on, but not specifically what I asked for. And then even if you do I'll move the goalposts a bit like you just did.

Rhetorics aside, I'd be interested in seeing videos of hollow point .30-06 hitting humans or comparisons thereof.

But unlike @MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti you're not here to bring any evidence of your own, are you? I'd be happy if I were wrong.
 
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Yawn the downdoots arent working and neither are the moronic personal attacks. Can YOU present an example of a .30-06 being stopped by human neck bones?
If you want an example of .30-06 leaving no exit wound, go shoot a deer. Hit a bone and it's 50/50 at best whether it'll exit.
 
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