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There was a period predating the streaming era in which the "old guard" showrunners of Heidecker, Small, and the like were on social media responding to questions by letting everyone know that Adult Swim was no longer interested in hearing pitches from them.
If I owned Warner Bros or Paramount or whatever company owns it now, here's what I'd do: I'd take ALL the Avatar shit off of streaming, revoke everyone's rights to broadcast it, then I'd go to the archives where Nick keeps all the original files or reels or whatever it's stored on and I'D BURN THAT SHIT IN A BIG OL' BONFIRE!!
I'm so incredibly tired of hearing about Avatar: The Last Airbender. Everyone knows how good of a show it was, but that's it! It was ONE good show! The movie was stupid, Korra was garbage that should've stayed fanfiction, and that post-apocalyptic threequel series they're working on is just going to be Korra but even browner and gayer. It's like there's a curse where anyone who tries to make anything about ATLA can only make shit. I'm sick of it! No more shit!! If I had a choice of destroying all of it, even the original show, or having to hear another thing about the bullshit garbage that keeps coming out about it, I'd delete Avatar from existence! Make it lost media, who gives a fuck! Clearly nobody writing for Avatar, that's who!
Would it not be considered to his disadvantage to forego the residuals which conventionally results from the entertainment industry repetitiously monetizing the work he performed, and instead take the far less desirable option of a single flat rate payout, bucko? Better yet: Which one would you take, champ?
That's like saying I'm put "at a disadvantage" by Taylor Swift because she won't suck me my penis. I didn't "forego" it. It was never offered. I never had any right to it nor reason to expect it.
He did work. He got paid. This is advantage.
Would it be good to get paid more? Sure.
Are you put at a disadvantage if your employer only gives yo what you're worth, rather than infinite money? No.
Lmao imagine that, an honest to god diverse group of filmmakers taking unique stories. Just like they pretended they wanted!
People of a certain age are such slavish conformists to conventional wisdom they’ll tie themselves into pretzels trying to justify enthusiastically doing what’s expected of them.
in the 80s and 90s a lot of what became blockbuster and critically aclaimed directors came from music videos, i can't think of any other modern equivalent of where those filmakers would be today that isn't youtube because even music videos are all on youtube, anyone getting into filmaking would be producing stuff that ends up in the platform and markets itself online.
Its even disingenuous call them "youtubers" if what they are uploading to the platform is filmaking content in nature like what Kane was doing, , thats like calling David Fincher an "MTV'er" because thats where his music videos played before he started making movies. (some smug retard back then probably did)
They are really ramping up the gimmick on the other side too. Backrooms had a very chunky budget of 10 million bucks, very well established production company A24 and had a veteran writter for the script, it isn't a mega bloated Hollywood money laundering film but its also not some kid's school project, there's obviously a lot of people behind the scenes making sure it succeed with a lot of money on the line. The "indie" success story is a hook that sell these days, it works great from marketing angle for studios so its gonna be a trend now just like in videogames who have larger budgets and institutional backing but still want to call themselves indie, that also creates a lot of resentment from butthurt trannies who are jealous of goosetroon and kane pixels.
The "indie" success story is a hook that sell these days, it works great from marketing angle for studios so its gonna be a trend now just like in videogames who have larger budgets and institutional backing but still want to call themselves indie, that also creates a lot of resentment from butthurt trannies who are jealous of goosetroon and kane pixels.
I know there's a whole Discourse about whether or not something's indie when it's successful, but at some point you have to wonder where the actual line is. If a company makes millions of dollars, are they still "indie" just because they aren't Disney? How is Glitch still "indie"? What separates them from a bigger publisher like Amazon?
its not so much the final profits but how its made and financed. At certain point with so much capital investment, Marketing, large staff, contractual obligations, etc you are not really indie, you are just another regular company. operating like any company would, the label is just slapped in to say "its the underdog, go easy"
Someone on Facebook leaked the full special for Paw Patrol: Everest and the big Chill, and I managed to download this mp4 of the entire special. I swear first Avatar then TADC and now even Paw Patrol is getting their stuff leak. Granted this has been out for a few days now but still.
Someone on Facebook leaked the full special for Paw Patrol: Everest and the big Chill, and I managed to download this mp4 of the entire special. I swear first Avatar then TADC and now even Paw Patrol is getting their stuff leak. Granted this has been out for a few days now but still.
This is something a lot of cartoon fans don’t understand. The most successful of voice actors barely make anything and still have to go to conventions to sign autographs for money or teach voice over classes. But even then, his problem was that he never tried branching out to other roles. You can absolutely make good money narrating commercials or automated phone lines, he did none of that and tried coasting off of an adult swim show, which notoriously pay close to nothing
It really boils down to if you land a casting director who likes you. Casting directors really hate having to audition new voice actors, a lot of why you hear the same few people so often is because the casting directors for said studio trust those actors more then new talent
A 20 year franchise known for 1 good series, a shit film, a shit sequel series that destroyed the purpose of an avatar and a subpar live action show. The only value it has is the small but dedicated fanbases who are 45 to 20.
If I owned Warner Bros or Paramount or whatever company owns it now, here's what I'd do: I'd take ALL the Avatar shit off of streaming, revoke everyone's rights to broadcast it, then I'd go to the archives where Nick keeps all the original files or reels or whatever it's stored on and I'D BURN THAT SHIT IN A BIG OL' BONFIRE!!
I'm so incredibly tired of hearing about Avatar: The Last Airbender. Everyone knows how good of a show it was, but that's it! It was ONE good show! The movie was stupid, Korra was garbage that should've stayed fanfiction, and that post-apocalyptic threequel series they're working on is just going to be Korra but even browner and gayer. It's like there's a curse where anyone who tries to make anything about ATLA can only make shit. I'm sick of it! No more shit!! If I had a choice of destroying all of it, even the original show, or having to hear another thing about the bullshit garbage that keeps coming out about it, I'd delete Avatar from existence! Make it lost media, who gives a fuck! Clearly nobody writing for Avatar, that's who!
I blame Nick's longtime aversion to action properties for why they invest so much into Avatar, prior to that show getting greenlit and even afterwards, they only picked up comedy cartoons. Cartoon Network and later Disney XD poached all of the talent that created stuff on par with it. So for the last two decades, they only have Avatar as it's "mature property" golden goose, but with that comes a highly toxic consumer base. There isn't any other franchises to distract them with, so Avatar gets all of the focus. Spongebob and other Nick properties get their shit leaked too, but they lack the massive infighting and ransom demands.
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