Alcoholism Support Thread - Down the hatch

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

I agree, and I'm sorry to inform you that you need to take up hobbies that girls like, or you'll never get a chance to meet and bond with them in person the way you want to.

Women have hobbies?

This is what makes booze (and drugs) so addictive. You feel like shit, use the substance, and you do feel better. Until the comedown, and until those negative feelings return.

I've never bought into the escapism or feel-goodness of drinking. At this point I mostly relate it to spending a few hours playing drunken FPS games before going to bed early. Sometimes I wake up without much of a hangover, others half the following day is gone.

I feel a slight urge to drink today but I've got an extra shift sunday, meaning if I can stiff it out today, I won't have another chance to drink for 7ish days. I don't mind drinking, especially a beer at a party or whatever, but I really don't wanna "fight the urge every day" type suffering.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

To be honest, the daily urges tend to go away pretty quickly. Sometimes you'll think about drinking when bored, stressed, or doing things you used to do with booze, but it passes if you ignore it or tell it "no." It's not as hard as you might think.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Women have hobbies?

Yeah, at making me miserable!

 

[Frostnipped Todger]

To be honest, the daily urges tend to go away pretty quickly. Sometimes you'll think about drinking when bored, stressed, or doing things you used to do with booze, but it passes if you ignore it or tell it "no." It's not as hard as you might think.

I am quite surprised that this has happened, I think I heard too much AA propaganda about how every day is a struggle and a test etc. Every day is basically the same as it always was, except I don’t wake up feeling like I might have a stroke.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

I am quite surprised that this has happened, I think I heard too much AA propaganda about how every day is a struggle and a test etc. Every day is basically the same as it always was, except I don’t wake up feeling like I might have a stroke.

I'm watching a series on these 21 apartments given to social outcasts and losers (see: all alcoholic men) given the offer to receive aid of all kinds but other than that, facing no punishment or threats of unhousing. It's all alcoholism, but it's so fucking gay and boring. It's jut dudes drinking beer. The most humane of the lot is drinking out of boredom and lack of employment. I can sort of relate to him at least, but my drinking is still bound in "if I drink on this friday evening, ill boot up a game and have fun" when in reality is I go to bed earlier and wake up later.

Anyway: Didn't drink, don't even know how many weeks going on sober I'm at now. Seeing this series however, watching dudes sit in a hole watching the world's wheels turn on telly, is pretty enlightening. On one hand it gives me FOMO; people out there being engineers on ships and seeing the world, but also reminding me that life really just is a job and spare 8 hours in the day. Pilots live boring, simple lives as well. We're all just cavemen forced into an environment far too complex for any of us. Why would the blacksmith in ye olde england dream of building castles in Austria?

Spoke a lot of motorbiking with the folks at work. Counting down the weeks til I start. Hopefully that'll keep me sober, not that I struggle in my daily life, at all. Hell, I feel the 'alcohol problem' is self-imposed. Oh no I'm one boot in AA! I drink once a week, sometimes! A friend of mine boozes and weeds, staying up til 4AM every weekend while cruising for unprotected gay sex. I read books and drink tea.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I am quite surprised that this has happened, I think I heard too much AA propaganda about how every day is a struggle and a test etc. Every day is basically the same as it always was, except I don’t wake up feeling like I might have a stroke.

Every AA group really is different. My group tends to emphasize the importance of taking it "one day at a time," since you don't wanna get cocky or complacent, but every time an old timer goes up and shares, he does "guys, the obsession really does go away."

 

[Froggy Fresh Sextape]

I am quite surprised that this has happened, I think I heard too much AA propaganda about how every day is a struggle and a test etc. Every day is basically the same as it always was, except I don’t wake up feeling like I might have a stroke.

Depends a lot on your circumstances. If your friends, family, co-workers, spouse, etc. all drink it gets harder because alcohol is constantly around.

I was sort of "lucky" because most of my drinking buddies either decided to get sober or were, y'know, fucking dead by that point.

 

[DSP for president 2032]

I like this guy, curious what other kiwis think of him.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=p71Y8h2kUxAI like this guy, curious what other kiwis think of him.

I can't really relate to any of it. Brain fog, anxiety, bad sleep, urges. I only feel the urge somewhat on fridays and don't actively seek to cover anything up but boredom. Even just now we're in a heat wave and I'm pondering 3-4 beers before bed, having done a fuckton of productive shit this week: Outings, tons of moving mail, getting bloodwork done, signed up for things I wanna do. WhAtS 4 bEeRs?

Watched a few of his other vids, they seem more specific and digestable:

https://youtu.be/l3FbSTsiQ4Q?t=311

https://youtu.be/CF6CBWR7d2M

Lots of talk of "I only wanna drink two but then I start and I can't stop". I buy the desired amount, drink it (or often leave 1/4 behind), wake up and accept the deal I signed. I've no urge 6.5 days of the week and honestly, the worst moments I've experienced are deciding late friday to drink. If I simply submit to the idea and shop the shit thursday, drink friday, I enter with no guilt. I accept I've decided to do it. I think that's a luxury of only having the urge once a week cause daily, that shit wouldn't fly.

Last I had this summer heat induced urge to drink beer, I lost interest the fucking second I opened a can. Maybe if I drank good low-percentage beer and not "I wanna get drunk" beer.. Alas.

 

[DSP for president 2032]

Last I had this summer heat induced urge to drink beer, I lost interest the fucking second I opened a can. Maybe if I drank good low-percentage beer and not "I wanna get drunk" beer.. Alas.

Dang... yeah, drinking "I wanna get drunk" beer in this heat sounds awful. You really don't love a good 1% or 2% beer with fruit juice? I love those on a hot day, and they're guilt-free.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

Dang... yeah, drinking "I wanna get drunk" beer in this heat sounds awful. You really don't love a good 1% or 2% beer with fruit juice? I love those on a hot day, and they're guilt-free.

I've had strawberry beer and other such things. Most recently after a workshop and I had to walk back to my car ~30 mins, so I was very self conscious about being too drunk to drive etc.

I just have no interest in beer. Zero alcohol seems like a ex-alcoholic mother's kind of solution. If I drink beer, it's to socialize. If no need to socialize, I don't drink. If I drink hard liqour, it's to forget that life sucks. There's so many half-measures that I just don't agree with. Flush it out with alcohol once every 5 weeks or go sober; all these half-measures don't appeal to me.

I ended up buying a few strong beers. I'm vibin, watching youtube vids. I'll go to bed somewhat aware of what is going on. Then I got a work weekend next, and probably skip 2-3 weeks before drinking again. What I truly wonder is "How often must one drink to reach the point where not drinking affects you". I don't feel ugly, dry, worn out. The usual tropes of alcoholism. If I drink once every 5 months, does the whole 30/60/90 days sobriety fit me? Am I making a big deal out of nothing?

Either way, I'm fine drinking once a month, if not less. I don't do it to mask emotions, merely out of boredom. I'm drinking a few beers and I'll skip the next 4-5 weeks, too busy thinking about all these mf'ers driving motorbikes that I can't yet.

 

[PFM]

I came into this thread expecting people wanting help to sober up, instead it's "I only drink on Fridays, I don't have a problem." What's the point of this thread?

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

I came into this thread expecting people wanting help to sober up, instead it's "I only drink on Fridays, I don't have a problem." What's the point of this thread?

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it fuck. I've posted a lot about staying sober long-term.

 

[DSP for president 2032]

What I truly wonder is "How often must one drink to reach the point where not drinking affects you". I don't feel ugly, dry, worn out. The usual tropes of alcoholism. If I drink once every 5 months, does the whole 30/60/90 days sobriety fit me? Am I making a big deal out of nothing?

We'll never get accurate data about how much alcohol is healthy or unhealthy because there is too much money on the line for either side to tell us the truth.

It sounds like you have a "healthy" and completely socially acceptable drinking pattern. Well, apart from maybe the drinking alone part. Although I've always thought that as long as you don't have any suicidal ideation or drink to excess that it's actually better to drink at home rather than some lame social venue. Less risk of falling asleep in a dumpster on the way home and ending up in a trash compactor, which is a disturbingly common occurrence:


What brings you to this thread is probably that you have consciously or subconsciously identified that your reasons for drinking are all root causes for alcoholism:

I only feel the urge somewhat on fridays and don't actively seek to cover anything up but boredom.

If I drink beer, it's to socialize. If no need to socialize, I don't drink.

If I drink hard liqour, it's to forget that life sucks.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

It sounds like you have a "healthy" and completely socially acceptable drinking pattern. Well, apart from maybe the drinking alone part. Although I've always thought that as long as you don't have any suicidal ideation or drink to excess that it's actually better to drink at home rather than some lame social venue.

Being drunk is embarrassing and to commit the sin in public is even worse. I had everything planned out for this one xmas dinner, even went home early, and still a choo-choo conductor sent me on the wrong train. Had my dad drive 2 hours to pick me up. Alternatively, I drink, start socializing and forget to drink, and now I'm 3 beers in over 2 hours and can practically drive home.. but what'd I gain from it? No one ever found their destined partner drunk out of their mind, acting unlike themselves both. It's all the cooler to (appear to be) sober; get people home safely in your car etc.

I dropped 25kg as a neet with no job to distract me. I fast 5-6 days a week. I've biked thousands of KM for the hell of it. I got the willpower to change my life up and yet I just sit here "eh why not, it's hot outside" and knock back a few. It's the fact I could simply take it as a challenge to go through life sober. I'd feel disgusting even talking to someone drunk at this stage, let alone seeing a partner succumb to such a childish urge (yet I'd also like to handle a tardwife so I could let it pass).

Worst part about giving in is that my sobriety has reset. Was going on 5-6 weeks I think.

 

[The_Cowcel]

Alternatively, I drink, start socializing and forget to drink, and now I'm 3 beers in over 2 hours and can practically drive home.. but what'd I gain from it? No one ever found their destined partner drunk out of their mind, acting unlike themselves both. It's all the cooler to (appear to be) sober; get people home safely in your car etc.

IMO that still sounds better than just sitting alone stressed out just so you can say that you went out and tried to socialize, I'm at the point where I'm drinking a almost a handle of vodka per week just to be able to loosen up enough to hang out in a discord call with people that I don't even like.

I dropped 25kg as a neet with no job to distract me. I fast 5-6 days a week. I've biked thousands of KM for the hell of it. I got the willpower to change my life up and yet I just sit here "eh why not, it's hot outside" and knock back a few. It's the fact I could simply take it as a challenge to go through life sober. I'd feel disgusting even talking to someone drunk at this stage, let alone seeing a partner succumb to such a childish urge (yet I'd also like to handle a tardwife so I could let it pass).

Worst part about giving in is that my sobriety has reset. Was going on 5-6 weeks I think.

This really isn't sounding like a problem honestly. a few drinks on a weekend once per month is hardly anything to write home about and I can't really blame you if you don't have anything else going on in your life. It's not like you're killing yourself with alcohol just to vaguely function.