👓 TGWTG "Nostalgia Critic" / Doug Walker, Rob Walker, Mike Michaud, Mike Ellis, Holly Christine Brown, et al - The Incompetent Predator-Protecting Upper Management of Channel Awesome, Doug Still Not That Funny

Here's a fun question for you all. What is Doug's worst review/moment/etc in your opinion?
His Spider-Man reviews. He understands jackshit about the comics or the characters and misses the mark on the intent and inspiration the movies draw from.
The Raimi and Webb movies all have their problems, ones a lot more than others, but his dickriding over the MCU Spidey (because he's a spineless bald fag who plays it safe when it actually counts) while de-meriting the other two series is my biggest example of Doug constantly tackling media he doesn't understand yet can't be arsed to research or respect.
 
His Spider-Man reviews. He understands jackshit about the comics or the characters and misses the mark on the intent and inspiration the movies draw from.
The Raimi and Webb movies all have their problems, ones a lot more than others, but his dickriding over the MCU Spidey (because he's a spineless bald fag who plays it safe when it actually counts) while de-meriting the other two series is my biggest example of Doug constantly tackling media he doesn't understand yet can't be arsed to research or respect.
I mean before the MCU Spidey he was sucking the dick of the Webb Movies acting like they were much deeper and mature films than the Raimi trilogy.
 
I mean before the MCU Spidey he was sucking the dick of the Webb Movies acting like they were much deeper and mature films than the Raimi trilogy.
Yeah, because most spergs on his forums were acting like the Webb films were going to be bigger than Christ himself and how Shailene Woodley was going to completely erase Kirsten Dunst in looks and acting as MJ. Then there's Doug's distaste for Tobey.
But now that the Webb movies (mostly ASM2) have been memed and buried to shit by the internet Doug acts like he always knew they were bad films. I wouldn't be surprised if in 5 years he declares he always saw MCU Spidey as "Iron Boy" and that there is no "real or genuine" representation of Spider-Man on film, as if Doug knows anything about Spider-Man outside of what he saw in the films or on the 90s animated show. For as much shit as I give Angry Joe for being a fake comic book fan outside of Superman due to his ignorance on many characters/storylines/etc, Doug is not only ignorant, but arrogant to boot and thinks he doesn't need to have read the comics to know the story or characters.
 
I don't really understand why Doug doesn't get away from this Michaud guy. I mean the NC is Doug, what the hell is Michaud going to do with the IP if Doug isn't there?
Simple, he is probably gaslighted/has Stockholm syndrome type loyalty towards the guy. Or Doug can probably speak his mind more openly and negotiate in his favor. Mike doesn't want to lose his biggest star, but then again I wouldn't be surprised if he funds a perfect opportunity to throw him and his brother under the bus, like he did with (dead and not so innocent) Jewario during the CTC.
Here's a fun question for you all. What is Doug's worst review/moment/etc in your opinion?

Movie: To Boldly Flee, worst "movie" I've ever seen in my life, and I watched Batman & Robin and Max Payne in the theatre, and To Catch a Yeti on television.

As Nostalgia Critic: His crossover with JesuOtaku, only NC review I didn't watch nor I will
 
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A bit late, but I also still enjoy Nostalgia Critic. It’s good for what it is, Youtube comedy reviews of movies. Though I’m also not gonna try and convince anyone to like them either. I’ve learned it’s easier to just enjoy what you like rather than try to talk to other people about it.
Not that I fault anyone who dislikes the videos either, of course.
And that's perfectly fair. Art is subjective & a matter of personal taste & preference.
 
Simple, he is probably gaslighted/has Stockholm syndrome type loyalty towards the guy. Or Doug can probably speak his mind more openly and negotiate in his favor. Mike doesn't want to lose his biggest star, but then again I wouldn't be surprised if he funds a perfect opportunity to throw him and his brother under the bus, like he did with (dead and not so innocent) Jewario during the CTC.


Movie: To Boldly Flee, worst "movie" I've ever seen in my life, and I watched Batman & Robin and Max Payne in the theatre, and To Catch a Yeti on television.

As Nostalgia Critic: His crossover with JesuOtaku, only NC review I didn't watch nor I will
I thought the Digimon Movie review was alright. Why did you skip it?
 
I don't really understand why Doug doesn't get away from this Michaud guy. I mean the NC is Doug, what the hell is Michaud going to do with the IP if Doug isn't there?
The question shouldn't be "What's Mike gonna do with the IP?" but rather, "What's Doug going to do without the IP?" Demo Reel has proven to both of them that Doug is nothing without the Nostalgia Critic, so Mike is going to keep hanging the rights over his head until Doug finally decides to settle for less $$$, which we all know he never will.
 
The question shouldn't be "What's Mike gonna do with the IP?" but rather, "What's Doug going to do without the IP?" Demo Reel has proven to both of them that Doug is nothing without the Nostalgia Critic, so Mike is going to keep hanging the rights over his head until Doug finally decides to settle for less $$$, which we all know he never will.
Maybe Doug could create another character to review movies with?
 
I don't really understand why Doug doesn't get away from this Michaud guy. I mean the NC is Doug, what the hell is Michaud going to do with the IP if Doug isn't there?

Simple, he can sell the IP back to Doug or sell the company and IP to someone who would hire Doug. Its like if Defy Media would sell Smosh to Mythical Morning guy, if it didn't go bankrupt.

In case Doug doesn't wanna cooperate, he can still sell the company to someone else. Nostalgia Critic as a character is generic as it is, anyone can make a movie reviewer with a shtick/gimmick anyway.
 
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I don't really understand why Doug doesn't get away from this Michaud guy. I mean the NC is Doug, what the hell is Michaud going to do with the IP if Doug isn't there?
Could be numerous reasons. The IP most likely belongs to Michaud and not Doug, so that's already out of the equation. Without the IP Doug is worth jack shit and he knows that.
Then there is also the possibility that he can't just leave and start his own YT channel because of a non compete clause in his contract.
Even if he could leave and start his own YT channel, he basically would be starting at zero and has to build up a new audience with a new IP and Demo Reel was a spectacular failure.
So it's pretty sure that Doug would fail spectacularly with a new channel and a new IP and he knows that and it's also the reason to do NC for as long as he can, because it's the only thing he's sort of successful with.

I'm actually kind of sad that we didn't get a more 'serious' review of pandemic fiction like The Stand. Now is the perfect time to see what these fictional disasters got right/wrong/kind of right.
Ever seen the intro of The Division game? Seems like a prophecy today.
 
Could be numerous reasons. The IP most likely belongs to Michaud and not Doug, so that's already out of the equation. Without the IP Doug is worth jack shit and he knows that.
Then there is also the possibility that he can't just leave and start his own YT channel because of a non compete clause in his contract.
Even if he could leave and start his own YT channel, he basically would be starting at zero and has to build up a new audience with a new IP and Demo Reel was a spectacular failure.
So it's pretty sure that Doug would fail spectacularly with a new channel and a new IP and he knows that and it's also the reason to do NC for as long as he can, because it's the only thing he's sort of successful with.

I agree for the contract part, but Doug can still make new youtube channel with new reviewing type IP. He has a recognizable face and fanbase who follow him. Anthony Padilla did that after leaving Smosh, and has found success, so its possible that Doug can do the same thing. Set up a Patreon, with a good hook and goals that are rational.

He only needs to do a few things, rethink what are his strengths and what are his weaknesses and find a balance. Like I sad, Nostalgia Critic is a generic character, only thing more generic then him was Sad Pandas "personas" that sucked ass.

So he can do same thing like Lupa did with Movie Nights, but unlike Lupas copycat show, a fresh take on reviewing movies. Even now, there is always someone who makes reviewing show that feels refreshing and original.
 
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Ever seen the intro of The Division game? Seems like a prophecy today.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8lSNNyHzmc4
There is one thing about apocalypse fiction that is usually lacking. When the riots and violence starts it rarely has an overt political bent. People riot just for the hell of it. Granted this is usually done to avoid controversy too much controversy. But this is what disaster fiction usually lacks the politics of it.How disasters radicalise people and end up mainstreaming previously extreme ideas. Only on occassion do such stories explicitly go political.I think Escape from LA is the most overtly political of all dystopian fiction.Gotta give props to John Carpenter for doing that. The guy had no qualms about that stuff might be the reason he ultimately quit doing movies.
 
There is one thing about apocalypse fiction that is usually lacking. When the riots and violence starts it rarely has an overt political bent. People riot just for the hell of it. Granted this is usually done to avoid controversy too much controversy. But this is what disaster fiction usually lacks the politics of it.How disasters radicalise people and end up mainstreaming previously extreme ideas. Only on occassion do such stories explicitly go political.I think Escape from LA is the most overtly political of all dystopian fiction.Gotta give props to John Carpenter for doing that. The guy had no qualms about that stuff might be the reason he ultimately quit doing movies.
The problem with politicizing your story is that unless the story shows the true nature of politics, then it's either going to miss its mark or become horribly dated in a few years
 
Funny thing about Apocalypse movies is that they can go in any direction, violent or dystopian route (or anything inbetween) is plausible way for society to go, if real thing happens. Many Apocalyptic movies were fun watch based on creativity, especially Mad Max series, but I think George A. Romero nailed criticism, satire and observation in first three Dead films.
 
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A bit late, but I also still enjoy Nostalgia Critic. It’s good for what it is, Youtube comedy reviews of movies. Though I’m also not gonna try and convince anyone to like them either. I’ve learned it’s easier to just enjoy what you like rather than try to talk to other people about it.
Not that I fault anyone who dislikes the videos either, of course.
Agreed Doug may be a cow, but at least he's mostly got his life together and can still make my laugh every now and then. Also his dark toons segments are kinda informative, then there's his cats chaplin and buster. Man has good taste in classic comedy give him that.
 
The thing with rebranding & creating a new persona/YouTube channel is that it involves work. And Doug has never been too keen on the way 'work' thing, beyond doing what he has to turn out his usual content. The anniversary specials were largely run by/organized by people other than Doug because Doug just wanted to write & direct. Yes, a 'movie' is different from a YouTube channel, but the concept of abandoning his persona, his logo, his 'trademarks' (because a lot of that probably goes along with the IP), his shtick, his catchphrase...I could see him just thinking it's all too much work so he just sticks it out with Michaud. The devil you know beats the devil you don't.
 
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