Culture Patreon’s Ban on “Anime” Art - War on Anime Intensifies

Patreon Is Being Asked to Ban Child Rape Animators — 37,000+ Have Signed the Petition

Anime content is being banned on Patreon now too, allegedly..

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Patreon's coming for everyone now.

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Where should Patreon draw the line?
Patreon is a great platform for creators, especially those with strong, loyal fanbases that want to directly support artists. Musician Jack Conte and developer Sam Yam are the founders of Patreon, and the concept was created because creators were getting stiffed by low-paying platforms like YouTube.

But they’re also getting censored, de-monetized, or de-emphasized if they don’t comply with the rules of YouTube, Facebook, or any other platform. Now, Patreon is being asked to issue its own set of policies around certain kinds of content.

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Patreon’s creators are extremely varied. YouTube videographers, writers, webcomic artists, podcasters, musicians, and many other creative types connect with targeted audiences through Patreon. And the system is simple: the creators can receive funding directly from their fans, or patrons. They can be paid on a recurring basis or per work of art.

The result? Many artists and creators feel that they are able better express themselves and get paid while doing so. In fact, more than a million active users and 50,000 monthly active creators make Patreon a seriously popular solution for artists. At present, Patreon estimates a staggering $150,000,000 is earned by artists on their platform annually.

Sounds great, except some fringe artists are attracting a lot of negative attention. Journalist Vonny Leclerc first discovered something disturbing: a ‘no pornography’ policy by the company wasn’t being enforced. That started the ball rolling.


+ Sorry, You Can’t Fund Your Fetish Porn Site on Patreon Anymore

Patreon has already clamped down on fetish porn site creators, though shocked onlookers are noticing something far more extreme.

Horrific acts of child rape depicted in animation.
Many of these artists are defending their right to create animations depicting child rape, torture, and other activities. Of course, actually doing these acts is completely illegal, but what about drawing it?

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These artists also say they’re creating works for patrons that are demanding it. And it turns out that patrons have been requesting all sorts of pervasive acts from creators. These now include horrific acts of child rape, personalized abuse fantasies, and acts of violence.

Lecler says it’s gone too far. “There are more and more violent, hyper-realistic animations being uploaded all the time,” he shared. “I wondered who had the time, now I can see people are making a living out of creating animated rape and snuff films.”

Lecler says Patreon is not only ignoring these activities, they are encouraging them.

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More than 37,000 thousand people have signed the petition demanding that Patreon stop people from selling child abuse animations through their platform.
The petition has been gaining steam, with more than 10,000 signatures arriving in the past 24 hours. Care2Petitions is hosting this particular protest.

According to the petition, this actually goes way beyond child rape illustrations. It also includes artwork of brutal killings, eye-gouging, other forms of rape… the list goes on. Lecler says one prominent artist is earning over $20,000 a month depicting extreme violence.

Here’s a quick excerpt of the petition page:

This is so many levels of disturbing: that these men can make it without caring, and that others buy it. Patreon is helping facilitate the creation of personalised abuse fantasies. One person [I found] is making $20,000 plus a month making adult games. Many making serious bucks.

What does it tell us about society, about sex and capitalism, that the most lucrative animation careers can come from made-to-order pornography? If you want to understand the things men wish they could do to us, look at the porn they create when they don’t have to use real women.

Patreon is being used to fund realistic animations of rape, eye-gouging, torture. Home-invasion when young women are shot in the face and then raped. @Patreon know about this. What’s being done? I can find hundreds of accounts making this kind of content.”


So where should Patreon draw the line?
Technically, this artwork isn’t illegal — at least in the United States. A picture depicting extreme violence may be extremely distasteful, but an artist has the right to create it. Once that crosses into depicted child pornography, however, a judge may have to decide.

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Another legal counter-argument relates to the actual harm done. If patrons and artists exist in an insular environment, one free of actual crime, it’s possible this group is merely acting out gruesome fantasies without dragging people into them. Some of the artwork in question violates Patreon’s pornography policy, though not all of it does.

+ Less Than 2% of Content Creators on Patreon Earn Monthly Minimum Wage

If that artwork is connected to actual crimes — or worse, if it’s depicting real events — then there’s a much different level of enforcement that’s needed.

Now, Patreon is undoubtedly going to be forced to respond — and make tough decisions that balance the broader interests of the community.

More as this develops.

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As if things weren't bad enough, Patreon now owns your ass and is going to stop you from using their competitors.
Really makes you doublethink when they're now claiming total ownership of all that incestbestialityshortwomen they've been trying to crack down on for the last year, huh.

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TLDR: Retroactive Ban is here for all old works on other platforms delet or lose your money.
 
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From what I've seen, for most artists doing commisions brings in more money anyway. Unless you have somekind of personality following, like shadman
 
Because the Woke Left have a rabid and irrational raw searing hatred of anime for some goddamn reason and the neolibs are probably terrified of a second anime boom now that woke culture is tanking their own franchises and the normies may be finally getting sick of capeshit now that COVID-19 forced them to detox and kept the latest MCU drivel out of the box office this summer.

The ugly "CalArts" Tumblr bean-mouth genderblob cartoon fad is primed to burst since everyone who's not an SJW either hates the style outright or are so indifferent that they won't consoom the product to begin with, and now that Steven Universe is over and done, it's only a matter of time before that bubble bursts and it doesn't even have the normie support that capeshit does.

Oh god, I can only hope so, I hate that art style so goddamn much. I almost hate it more than the stupid geometric and flat Powerpuff Girls/Friendship is Magic/Butch Hartman style that consumed everything for over a decade.

I can only guess that the Woke Left hates anime so much because they can't control it. They can't get in on ground floor to create it, and no amount of screaming and threats will change the will of Japanese companies who are really only making things for Japanese audiences. It's the last bastion of "geek culture" that they can't sink their claws into and change to their will. You can even see it with the ones who pretend to like a certain anime genres or series: They spend all of their time making up "headcanons" and redrawing everything in a non-anime style because they don't actually like it for what it is.
 
Oh god, I can only hope so, I hate that art style so goddamn much. I almost hate it more than the stupid geometric and flat Powerpuff Girls/Friendship is Magic/Butch Hartman style that consumed everything for over a decade.

I can only guess that the Woke Left hates anime so much because they can't control it. They can't get in on ground floor to create it, and no amount of screaming and threats will change the will of Japanese companies who are really only making things for Japanese audiences. It's the last bastion of "geek culture" that they can't sink their claws into and change to their will. You can even see it with the ones who pretend to like a certain anime genres or series: They spend all of their time making up "headcanons" and redrawing everything in a non-anime style because they don't actually like it for what it is.

You keep saying this but the main export market for that stuff is mainland China. Believe me, it will be altered for an international audience. I wouldn't expect to see much anti-CCP content at least. The pursuit of profit is all that really matters in that industry.
 
You keep saying this but the main export market for that stuff is mainland China. Believe me, it will be altered for an international audience. I wouldn't expect to see much anti-CCP content at least. The pursuit of profit is all that really matters in that industry.

Oh, I have no doubt that anime will have more alterations to appeal to the Chinese audiences but I don't think we'll get the "woke" shit you see in Western media, at least not as much.

Radfem misandry isn't popular in the predominantly patriarchal East Asian countries and outside of South Korea, feminism in general is pretty fringe in that region. Both China and Japan are very much non-feminist

Anti-White racism is a moot point when both the source country and the main country they're exporting to are both majority Asian.

Pro-Black/Pro-Indigenous rhetoric and the SJW hallmarks of lesbians, trannies, and "gender queer" punk shit will not pop up in anime because it's all extremely verboten (and often illegal) in China and is looked down upon in Japan.

The main "woke" hallmarks I can see coming to anime is less fanservice and no anti-CCP sentiment, assuming that COVID-19 combined with a second term of Trump (with the trade war that would inevitably ensue) wouldn't severely weaken the Chinese market.

Even then, anime is all about profit but you still occasionally see the more "edgy" titles because they know they can charge extra for the otaku market in Japan wanting more collector merch and because that shit is likely to sell in America, especially if the "Woke Culture" fad continues to lose favor with the masses (as it is, it's mainly being propped up by corporatist interests trying to influence politics and by the Chinese market)

Like, I don't see anime ever becoming as fully "woke" as Western geek media like capeshit or "CalArts" Tumblr cartoons. But I do see the majority of titles toning things down to appeal to the Chinese mainland audiences.

I mean, anime itself has toned down a lot before. Even the most risque of fanservice comedies and the more TV-MA isekai and harem stuff of the 2000's and 2010's can't hold a candle to the "OVA Boom" titles of the 80's and 90's, which was the majority trend of the anime market in both Japan and the United States in the late 80's and early 90's.

The OVA Boom was known for both extreme violence and gore, dark and "edgy" subject matter with often bizarre storylines, and lots of nudity and sexuality. Plus companies like Central Park Media, Manga Entertainment, and ADV would "punch up" the dubs to add extra profanity back in the day.

The OVA Boom was kind of like the anime equivalent of golden era of grindhouse exploitation films in America and parts of Europe back in the 70's and early 80's.

To be honest. and I know everyone will call me optimistic for thinking this, I think it's possible to see a return to low-budget "edgy" independent movies and web series in general once COVID-19 has fully blown over, and I think the corporate bigwigs hate that idea since the pandemic has severely damaged their finances and could open up a parallel market for independent creators who can give an alternative to the bland "woke" slop that is being cranked out.

Really, I think the Patreon crackdowns are the result of the major media corporations trying to preemptively prevent a parallel market from popping up...

Or it's also just as likely (if not more likely) that there's a lot of pretentious punks, furries, and trannies at Patreon who are using their hyper-woke views to target any media they deem "problematic" and using sexual mores as a figleaf to appeal to the suits and other major higher-ups to back their play.

I'd wager most of the suits are under the impression it's just a blanket ban on extreme porn and not just some dangerhairs and bearded four-eyed men lumping all anime as "problematic hate speech/pedo rape porn" even if said anime and manga artwork is completely SFW apolitical PG and PG-13 stuff and the characters depicted are explicitly identified as adults.


The fact they're stalking Patreon artists and censuring them for behaviors off-site is creepy as fuck and really sounds like something you'd see from the woke zealots and tranny jannies over at RPG.net or ResetEra so I honestly think the Patreon crackdowns are just some Millennial wokesters who are high-up enough in the company to pursue this weird "stalker girlfriend meets KGB secret police" policy but just low enough that they can't outright say they're targeting anime-style artwork completely


The Amazon bans are likely either trolls flagging the algorithm or some other algorithm hiccup since it seems to mainly go after a specific LN series, but I may have to do some research on that and see what else develops.
 
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There's a lot of anime/manga with woke topics. Plenty of manga that question gender norms, normalize gay relationships, etc. A well received manga recently was one where a fujo finds out she's a lesbian and a more recently one about the first gay married couple in Japan. There was a recent anime where one of the main characters looks into if he's transgendered or not (and tries girls clothes, makeup, etc)
There's always been the presence of traps, yuri/yaoi, etc. in manga, but you can see a "woke" western influence begin moving in. One manga I read had a character who lived in America, came back to Japan, and let her grandson wear dresses to school (then get reprimanded for not fitting into Japanese way of life). There's a certain growing presence where many younger people in Japan are looking towards western wokeness as a leading light.
Also keep in mind that people in Japan are very old, its hard to gauge how younger generations think when you look at broad national opinion that does not make age-based distinctions.
 
There's a lot of anime/manga with woke topics. Plenty of manga that question gender norms, normalize gay relationships, etc. A well received manga recently was one where a fujo finds out she's a lesbian and a more recently one about the first gay married couple in Japan. There was a recent anime where one of the main characters looks into if he's transgendered or not (and tries girls clothes, makeup, etc)

How recent is "recent", I can't actually think of what any of those are.
 
How recent is "recent", I can't actually think of what any of those are.
The fujo one is around 2 years, I think. It got a western release under the name of "my lesbian experience" or something. The gay marriage one is very recently and still ongoing, and the anime was within the last year (I can't remember what it was called, but it was about tennis)
 
The fujo one is around 2 years, I think. It got a western release under the name of "my lesbian experience" or something. The gay marriage one is very recently and still ongoing, and the anime was within the last year (I can't remember what it was called, but it was about tennis)

It was called Stars Align. Also I actually read My Lesbian Experience, its less "support lgbt+!" And more of an autobiography about depression, the title in full is actually My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness. I don't remember her being a fujoshi, but I do remember that protagonist's first time was with a prostitute and she broke up with the girlfriend she finally managed to get because "I don't deserve her".

I'd consider it as a different genre, more alongside that one autobiography manga about the irl porn star that talks about how she got sexually abused by her father and brother and others like it.

Not saying you don't have a valid point, but rather a better example would be that one manga about a nonbinary creature working at a cafe, or something.
 
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