US Mississippi takes step toward dropping rebel image from flag - Probably to be replaced with a retarded seal-on-blue-background flag

Mississippi takes step toward dropping rebel image from flag
By EMILY WAGSTER PETTUStoday

JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — Spectators at the Mississippi Capitol broke into cheers and applause Saturday as lawmakers took a big step toward erasing the Confederate battle emblem from the state flag, a symbol that has come under intensifying criticism in recent weeks amid nationwide protests against racial injustice.

“The eyes of the state, the nation and indeed the world are on this House,” Republican Rep. Jason White told his colleagues.

On the other end of the Capitol, Sen. Briggs Hopson declared: “Today, you — Mississippi — have a date with destiny.”

Mississippi has the last state flag with the Confederate battle emblem — a red field topped by a blue X with 13 white stars. Many see the emblem as racist, and the flag has been divisive for generations in a state with a 38% Black population.

Republican Gov. Tate Reeves said Saturday for the first time that he would sign a bill to change the flag if the Republican-controlled Legislature sends him one. He previously said he would not veto one — a more passive stance.

“The argument over the 1894 flag has become as divisive as the flag itself and it’s time to end it,” Reeves said.

On Saturday, the House and Senate voted by more than the required two-thirds majority to suspend legislative deadlines and file a bill to change the flag. That allows debate on a bill as soon as Sunday.

Saturday’s vote was the big test, though, because of the margin. Only a simple majority is needed to pass a bill.

“I would never have thought that I would see the flag come down in my lifetime,” said Democratic Sen. Barbara Blackmon of Canton, who is African American.

A bill will erase the current Mississippi flag from state law. A commission will design a new flag that cannot include the Confederate battle emblem but must have the phrase “In God We Trust.” The new design will be put on the ballot Nov. 3. If a majority voting that day accept the new design, it will become the state flag. If a majority reject it, the commission will design a new flag using the same guidelines.

“I know there are many good people who ... believe that this flag is a symbol of our Southern pride and heritage,” said White, the Republican speaker pro tempore of the House. “But for most people throughout our nation and the world, they see that flag and think that it stands for hatred and oppression.”

Republican Rep. Chris Brown of Nettleton appeared at a 2016 rally outside the state Capitol for people who want to keep the Confederate emblem on the flag. He said Saturday that the current flag and a proposed new design should both go on the ballot.

“I don’t think we can move forward together if we say, ‘You can have any flag you want except ... this one,’” Brown said. “If we put the current flag on the ballot with another good design, the people of Mississippi will change it. ... Let’s not steal their joy.”

White supremacists in the Legislature set the state flag design in 1894 during backlash to the political power that African Americans gained after the Civil War.

The Mississippi Supreme Court ruled in 2000 that the flag lacked official status. State laws were updated in 1906, and portions dealing with the flag were not carried forward. Legislators set a flag election in 2001, and voters kept the rebel-themed design.

Democratic state Rep. Ed Blackmon of Canton — the husband of Sen. Barbara Blackmon — told the House on Saturday that threats were made against him and others who served on a flag design commission in 2000. Ed Blackmon said Mississippi needs a design without the Confederate design so his children and grandchildren can stand at attention when they see it.

“We’ll all be proud to say, ‘That’s my flag, too,’” Blackmon said.

All of the state’s public universities and several cities and counties have stopped flying it because of the Confederate symbol.

Influential business, religious, education and sports groups are calling on Mississippi to drop the Confederate symbol.

People for and against the current flag filled the Capitol on Saturday.

Karen Holt of Edwards, Mississippi, was with several people asking lawmakers to adopt a new banner with a magnolia, which is both the state tree and the state flower. She said it would represent “joy of being a citizen of the United States,” unlike the current flag.

“We don’t want anything flying over them, lofty, exalting itself, that grabs onto a deadly past,” Holt said.

Dan Hartness of Ellisville, Mississippi, walked outside the Capitol carrying a pole that with the American flag and the current Mississippi flag. He said the state flag pays tribute to those who fought in the Civil War.

“Being a veteran, that’s important to me — that you remember these guys that fought in battle, whether they’re on the right side or the wrong side,” Hartness said.

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And thus with a flag changed, racism is now officially over.

Wait no, they still need some way to claim oppression.
 
Do what Georgia did and change it to another Confederate flag that everyone who complains about it is too stupid to recognize.

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I spend a fair amount of time in Mississippi, so here's my take: most of the state, white or black, doesn't give a shit about this. At all. This is being pushed by a handful of college students and administrators from Ole Miss, and a handful of rabble-rousing race-baiters from Hattiesburg, and a couple of dozen state politicians. Mississippi also has, by far, the dumbest NAACP chapter in the country, so they're on board. This whole thing is getting way more press than it deserves.

Mississippi has bigger problems, like the dumb as dirt blue-gum negroes in the delta losing what few jobs there are to illegal aliens. It's not even the delta blacks' fault that they're so dumb. Every generation since the Civil War, the smart ones leave. Serious brain drain over a hundred and fifty years. There's no tax base to support any sort of adequate school system in these dying delta towns. Overwhelmingly, the worst race relations problems aren't black/white, but everyone/illegals. I haven't heard anyone white being racist against blacks in a long time, but no one, no one has anything good to say about the illegals. They're fucking up wages, they're taking jobs, they're pushing up rents, and the crime rate is increasing.
 
I say we replace the Confederate battle flag in the Mississippi state flag with a swastika banner, otherwise leave it the way it is. I think that's a fair trade.
 
Why is it that conservatives tell blacks to get over slavery, but white southerners need to Jack off over their failed rebellion until the end of time?

Because almost no one in the south outside of hood rats and white progressives care. It's become a symbol of general rebelliousness, I am guessing due to Dukes of Hazard. I have seen black and American Indian rednecks with it on their trucks, and when Obama first called for getting rid of the confederate flag, the organizer of the protest here was darker than me.
 
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I'd like to know as well

Conservatives tell blacks to get over slavery because while it has been ended for generations, modern blacks attempt to use slavery to excuse their own failure and to give themselves preferential status in society.

Southerners jack off over their failed rebellion all the time because it is a siginifacnt historical event that culturally defines them and separates them from other distinct regions of the country (a country that is often told it has no culture).

Thats the answer to the question. But we all know that he (and probably you) wasn't literally asking why do those two things occur. He is implying a statement, as I understand it: "conservatives hold contradictory views on the validity of clinging to the past". The flaw is that conservatives and southerners are different groups of people so the two statements he poses as contradictory are actually independent. If a real discussion on this were to be had in good faith then one of the statements should be modified so that the contraditictory positions are alleged to be held by the same group of people. But this is A&N so that would be a waste of time.
 
That's not a fair trade at all. Swastikas are bug ugly, the existing flag is quite attractive.

Lol I'm sure there would be no objections if the flag was a hammer and sickle instead. Honestly I'm surprised the flag hasn't been changed considering all the crap going on now.
 
Conservatives tell blacks to get over slavery because while it has been ended for generations, modern blacks attempt to use slavery to excuse their own failure and to give themselves preferential status in society.

Southerners jack off over their failed rebellion all the time because it is a siginifacnt historical event that culturally defines them and separates them from other distinct regions of the country (a country that is often told it has no culture).

Thats the answer to the question. But we all know that he (and probably you) wasn't literally asking why do those two things occur. He is implying a statement, as I understand it: "conservatives hold contradictory views on the validity of clinging to the past". The flaw is that conservatives and southerners are different groups of people so the two statements he poses as contradictory are actually independent. If a real discussion on this were to be had in good faith then one of the statements should be modified so that the contraditictory positions are alleged to be held by the same group of people. But this is A&N so that would be a waste of time.
Didn't read lol
 
Why do people care? Most people associated it with rednecks and general rebellion until they started crying about it.

I always hated it. Orange is ugly, and it's especially ugly when you just slap it on whatever like southerners do. I also found it really silly to rally around the symbol of a *severely* failed revolution. I hated the Confederate flag until the precise moment that I realized that most of the people who hated it with me were going to attempt to erase it and all the history associated with it out of the books.

In other words, I only support displaying it because I don't want displaying it to be illegal. We aren't Germany, and it's not a swastika.
 
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