US Mississippi takes step toward dropping rebel image from flag - Probably to be replaced with a retarded seal-on-blue-background flag

Mississippi takes step toward dropping rebel image from flag
By EMILY WAGSTER PETTUStoday

JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — Spectators at the Mississippi Capitol broke into cheers and applause Saturday as lawmakers took a big step toward erasing the Confederate battle emblem from the state flag, a symbol that has come under intensifying criticism in recent weeks amid nationwide protests against racial injustice.

“The eyes of the state, the nation and indeed the world are on this House,” Republican Rep. Jason White told his colleagues.

On the other end of the Capitol, Sen. Briggs Hopson declared: “Today, you — Mississippi — have a date with destiny.”

Mississippi has the last state flag with the Confederate battle emblem — a red field topped by a blue X with 13 white stars. Many see the emblem as racist, and the flag has been divisive for generations in a state with a 38% Black population.

Republican Gov. Tate Reeves said Saturday for the first time that he would sign a bill to change the flag if the Republican-controlled Legislature sends him one. He previously said he would not veto one — a more passive stance.

“The argument over the 1894 flag has become as divisive as the flag itself and it’s time to end it,” Reeves said.

On Saturday, the House and Senate voted by more than the required two-thirds majority to suspend legislative deadlines and file a bill to change the flag. That allows debate on a bill as soon as Sunday.

Saturday’s vote was the big test, though, because of the margin. Only a simple majority is needed to pass a bill.

“I would never have thought that I would see the flag come down in my lifetime,” said Democratic Sen. Barbara Blackmon of Canton, who is African American.

A bill will erase the current Mississippi flag from state law. A commission will design a new flag that cannot include the Confederate battle emblem but must have the phrase “In God We Trust.” The new design will be put on the ballot Nov. 3. If a majority voting that day accept the new design, it will become the state flag. If a majority reject it, the commission will design a new flag using the same guidelines.

“I know there are many good people who ... believe that this flag is a symbol of our Southern pride and heritage,” said White, the Republican speaker pro tempore of the House. “But for most people throughout our nation and the world, they see that flag and think that it stands for hatred and oppression.”

Republican Rep. Chris Brown of Nettleton appeared at a 2016 rally outside the state Capitol for people who want to keep the Confederate emblem on the flag. He said Saturday that the current flag and a proposed new design should both go on the ballot.

“I don’t think we can move forward together if we say, ‘You can have any flag you want except ... this one,’” Brown said. “If we put the current flag on the ballot with another good design, the people of Mississippi will change it. ... Let’s not steal their joy.”

White supremacists in the Legislature set the state flag design in 1894 during backlash to the political power that African Americans gained after the Civil War.

The Mississippi Supreme Court ruled in 2000 that the flag lacked official status. State laws were updated in 1906, and portions dealing with the flag were not carried forward. Legislators set a flag election in 2001, and voters kept the rebel-themed design.

Democratic state Rep. Ed Blackmon of Canton — the husband of Sen. Barbara Blackmon — told the House on Saturday that threats were made against him and others who served on a flag design commission in 2000. Ed Blackmon said Mississippi needs a design without the Confederate design so his children and grandchildren can stand at attention when they see it.

“We’ll all be proud to say, ‘That’s my flag, too,’” Blackmon said.

All of the state’s public universities and several cities and counties have stopped flying it because of the Confederate symbol.

Influential business, religious, education and sports groups are calling on Mississippi to drop the Confederate symbol.

People for and against the current flag filled the Capitol on Saturday.

Karen Holt of Edwards, Mississippi, was with several people asking lawmakers to adopt a new banner with a magnolia, which is both the state tree and the state flower. She said it would represent “joy of being a citizen of the United States,” unlike the current flag.

“We don’t want anything flying over them, lofty, exalting itself, that grabs onto a deadly past,” Holt said.

Dan Hartness of Ellisville, Mississippi, walked outside the Capitol carrying a pole that with the American flag and the current Mississippi flag. He said the state flag pays tribute to those who fought in the Civil War.

“Being a veteran, that’s important to me — that you remember these guys that fought in battle, whether they’re on the right side or the wrong side,” Hartness said.

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Real reason why Mississippi's bending the knee: no more of those sweet college football bux courtesy of the SEC: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/19/us/mississippi-flag-sec-trnd/index.html

"It is past time for change to be made to the flag of the State of Mississippi," SEC commissioner Greg Sankey said in a statement posted to Twitter. "Our students deserve an opportunity to learn and compete in environment that are inclusive and welcoming to all."
Sankey went on to say that if Mississippi refuses to change their flag this time, they will consider banning championship events from the state until it is.
 
So the flag change is going through, apparently Mississippians will be voting on the new flag design, which is great. Makes people feel like they have some stake in the whole thing. The only stipulation is that the flag must have the motto "In God We Trust".

Now that the flag change is going through, how much outrage is there? About as much as there was in regards to changing it in the first place. None. No one really cares except the national media. The race hucksters and politicians are already moving on to the next thing.

The SEC is interesting, that's likely a big factor in how smoothly this whole thing has gone. Mississippi does like its football.
 
Real reason why Mississippi's bending the knee: no more of those sweet college football bux courtesy of the SEC: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/19/us/mississippi-flag-sec-trnd/index.html
Okay, but that doesn't make any fucking sense. The Wikipedia article on the SEC Championship Game says that it's only been played in two locations: Legion Field in Birmingham, Alabama for its first two years; and the Georgia Dome/Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta ever since. In no world can I see the SEC hosting the game anywhere in Mississippi, regardless of its flag. I don't think there are any stadiums of comparable size to the one in Atlanta to make such a move worthwhile. Unless they're just talking about SEC games in general, in which case that's really dumb phrasing. Funny how a black guy killed in Minnesota means Mississippi has to change their flag.

As someone who grew up in Mississippi (and is attempting not to sound like John Walker Flynt here), I find the whole thing pretty dumb. I don't think I've ever run into a single person in my life who's actually voiced any sort of displeasure at the flag. If you seriously feel oppressed by a flag you probably don't even see on a regular basis, there are forty-nine other states you can move to where you never have to see it. Furthermore, we voted on changing it twenty years ago and the vote failed, though it might be because the proposed flag was pretty ugly:
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I also had to laugh when the governor said that changing the flag will boost the state's economy. Because apparently the only thing that was keeping businesses from opening in Mississippi was our fucking flag. Guess what: it doesn't matter if it gets changed, because the rest of the country will continue to view Mississippi as a backwards racist shithole. Guarantee we won't see any uptick in business in the coming years now that we've solved racism by changing our flag.

But whatever, it's gonna happen anyway, so hopefully someone can come up with a halfway decent design and then we never have to hear about this shit again. At least they're letting the public vote on the new design, though I wish they'd bothered to call for a statewide vote on changing it in the first place. If it weren't for the "In God We Trust" mandate, I'd say the "Hospitality Flag" design would be a decent replacement:
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This flag created for the state's bicentennial might end up being the replacement since it's got the motto on it, but I'm less enthused about its design:
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Okay, but that doesn't make any fucking sense. The Wikipedia article on the SEC Championship Game says that it's only been played in two locations: Legion Field in Birmingham, Alabama for its first two years; and the Georgia Dome/Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta ever since. In no world can I see the SEC hosting the game anywhere in Mississippi, regardless of its flag. I don't think there are any stadiums of comparable size to the one in Atlanta to make such a move worthwhile. Unless they're just talking about SEC games in general, in which case that's really dumb phrasing. Funny how a black guy killed in Minnesota means Mississippi has to change their flag.

As someone who grew up in Mississippi (and is attempting not to sound like John Walker Flynt here), I find the whole thing pretty dumb. I don't think I've ever run into a single person in my life who's actually voiced any sort of displeasure at the flag. If you seriously feel oppressed by a flag you probably don't even see on a regular basis, there are forty-nine other states you can move to where you never have to see it. Furthermore, we voted on changing it twenty years ago and the vote failed, though it might be because the proposed flag was pretty ugly:
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I also had to laugh when the governor said that changing the flag will boost the state's economy. Because apparently the only thing that was keeping businesses from opening in Mississippi was our fucking flag. Guess what: it doesn't matter if it gets changed, because the rest of the country will continue to view Mississippi as a backwards racist shithole. Guarantee we won't see any uptick in business in the coming years now that we've solved racism by changing our flag.

But whatever, it's gonna happen anyway, so hopefully someone can come up with a halfway decent design and then we never have to hear about this shit again. At least they're letting the public vote on the new design, though I wish they'd bothered to call for a statewide vote on changing it in the first place. If it weren't for the "In God We Trust" mandate, I'd say the "Hospitality Flag" design would be a decent replacement:
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This flag created for the state's bicentennial might end up being the replacement since it's got the motto on it, but I'm less enthused about its design:
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Reminds me of Missouri.
 
Take out the text and it would be a pretty cool flag, better than some recycled version of the old CSA flag. Slowly but surely, US state flags are getting nicer!
 
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