Brianna Wu / John Flynt - Original Thread

[Peace and Harmony]

Who in their right mind would look at that and think, "yes, this is the best job I could have possibly done"?

Someone who thinks that everything that they do is the best thing they've ever done.

 

[KingofManga420]

Normally I wouldn't care much for complaints about a game's graphics but in this case I think they're valid. Revolution60 is nothing short of ugly.

Stupidly exaggerated models that look like more like porcelain dolls than humans stuck in flat and uninteresting areas without even any lighting to bring out some depth? Who in their right mind would look at that and think, "yes, this is the best job I could have possibly done"?

That's an insult to porcelain dolls.

 

[PantsOfDesire]

Everything about this joke of a project shows Wu puts the absolute minimum amount of effort into it as possible, clearly more concerned with being a "game designer" than actually designing games. Anyone who gave a positive review to this piece of shit should be ashamed of themselves for outright lying to their audience. They are whores and the number of straight-faced good reviews of this junk say a lot about "ethics in game journalism."

I've been tempted to download the free version to try it. Looked at some reviews and it's difficult to see for the bias - particularly user reviews on Metacritic. The main criticisms I see are for the combat style being pretty boring. Overall it makes the game seem like a linear cinematic game, with some choices, but ultimately playing through a cinematic game, and asked occasionally to hit things until they die. Looks like an average game that picked-up some high reviews, along with some average reviews, and a bunch of angry low reviews from the general public. Meh. It's a combination of game reviews being shit and some vote brigading on account of Wu being a nasty piece of work.

But, yes. The lighting is shit.

Edit: I downloaded the demo. Visually it's okay for iOS, but the lack of lighting is really weird. I don't see that being a stylistic decision - more an artefact of a weird world where light comes from everywhere and nowhere, except when characters need shadows. To me it makes everything too bright - there's not enough contrast, even by comic book standards. Skippable sequences would be nice - some of them drag on a bit, but I think they more wanted to make a cartoon than a game. Seems the game wants me to get more hours out of it by having me sitting around waiting for the stuff to play. I can see combat becoming pretty dull later - I was bored after three fights.

I've no idea what it's like long-term. It's not a terrible game. It's not great, and I'm fine with disliking Wu without needing to hate this game.

 

[José Mourinho]

1. Wu's husband skills.... in the very first level in Super Mario Bros.

2. After tweeting about Bloodborne (nothing special), she then tweeted about Final Fantasy 0.

 

[namazuros]

I've been tempted to download the free version to try it. Looked at some reviews and it's difficult to see for the bias - particularly user reviews on Metacritic. The main criticisms I see are for the combat style being pretty boring. Overall it makes the game seem like a linear cinematic game, with some choices, but ultimately playing through a cinematic game, and asked occasionally to hit things until they die. Looks like an average game that picked-up some high reviews, along with some average reviews, and a bunch of angry low reviews from the general public. Meh. It's a combination of game reviews being shit and some vote brigading on account of Wu being a nasty piece of work.

But, yes. The lighting is shit.

Edit: I downloaded the demo. Visually it's okay for iOS, but the lack of lighting is really weird. I don't see that being a stylistic decision - more an artefact of a weird world where light comes from everywhere and nowhere, except when characters need shadows. To me it makes everything too bright - there's not enough contrast, even by comic book standards. Skippable sequences would be nice - some of them drag on a bit, but I think they more wanted to make a cartoon than a game. Seems the game wants me to get more hours out of it by having me sitting around waiting for the stuff to play. I can see combat becoming pretty dull later - I was bored after three fights.

I've no idea what it's like long-term. It's not a terrible game. It's not great, and I'm fine with disliking Wu without needing to hate this game.

What exactly are you enjoying about it? From the 'trying too hard' snarky dialogue to the lobotomized Megaman Battle Network combat to the painful music and nonsense story, I found no positives at all in the experience

 

[Peace and Harmony]

>Final Fantasy 0
>"Our monoculture"

So I have to assume that she's referring to the culture of game development...which is exactly the same no matter where you are in the world?

Okay.

 

[PantsOfDesire]

What exactly are you enjoying about it? From the 'trying too hard' snarky dialogue to the lobotomized Megaman Battle Network combat to the painful music and nonsense story, I found no positives at all in the experience

The animation isn't bad for an indy title. I got bored with drawing circles. I didn't say I enjoyed it. I think it's not a terrible game if I'm honest - just too pedestrian to be "game of the year", as rated by the site where one of Wu's podcast collaborators also works. If Hitler made Witcher I'd still think Witcher's a good game, although I'd probably ask him to make the combat a little more varied and make it less difficult to end up stuck in quest limbo.

 

[MayMay]

Ah yes, prioritize story and fuck gameplay.
I'm sure that worked well for FF13 and it's endless hallways of boredom.

And this is the person who complained about the MGS cutscenes.

 

[namazuros]

The animation isn't bad for an indy title. I got bored with drawing circles. I didn't say I enjoyed it. I think it's not a terrible game if I'm honest - just too pedestrian to be "game of the year", as rated by the site where one of Wu's podcast collaborators also works. If Hitler made Witcher I'd still think Witcher's a good game, although I'd probably ask him to make the combat a little more varied and make it less difficult to end up stuck in quest limbo.

I just feel confused because you don't view it as terrible, which implies that it has redeeming points to all the glaring flaws in its gameplay and storytelling. Saying it has good animations is nice and all, but it doesn't really explain the leap from an awful game to a pedestrian game. It was an absolutely joyless experience for me, so I'm just quite baffled to hear that someone actually got some enjoyment out of it.

 

[PantsOfDesire]

I just feel confused because you don't view it as terrible, which implies that it has redeeming points to all the glaring flaws in its gameplay and storytelling. Saying it has good animations is nice and all, but it doesn't really explain the leap from an awful game to a pedestrian game. It was an absolutely joyless experience for me, so I'm just quite baffled to hear that someone actually got some enjoyment out of it.

I wanted to give this thing a fair go, and it looked fairly cool at the start. I got very put-off when I realised that the characters would probably be getting on just fine if I wasn't actually playing. So I'd say I had some measure of enjoyment for about 15 minutes. That dropped very quickly when I realised this was going to be about drawing circles and tapping while the characters actually did stuff way cooler than what I was doing. It was a bit "special needs". I'll go draw circles and click the clown face button while you go shoot people. Yay!

 

[Papaya23]

The animation isn't bad for an indy title. I got bored with drawing circles. I didn't say I enjoyed it. I think it's not a terrible game if I'm honest - just too pedestrian to be "game of the year", as rated by the site where one of Wu's podcast collaborators also works. If Hitler made Witcher I'd still think Witcher's a good game, although I'd probably ask him to make the combat a little more varied and make it less difficult to end up stuck in quest limbo.

You're missing a few key points of why people are ragging on it:
--They blew a TON of money on this. There are plenty of RPGMaker games with worse graphics, but we're not ragging on them because they're not spending $200k and hiring teams of people to code it over the span of years.
--Wubert is constantly bragging about how revolutionary certain aspects of the game are when they're clearly lifted from other titles (the dialog mechanics are from Mass Effect, for one)
--R60 is supposed to be some empowering anti-game that subverts problematic representations of women but instead just does it harder than actual "dudebro" games and it's really obviously because of Wubert, whose life mission is to emulate stereotypes of women
--Wubert whines non-stop about how games should be story-driven but R60's plot is an afterthought that you have to purchase, for the same price as the actual game

 

[AnOminous]

The animation isn't bad for an indy title. I got bored with drawing circles. I didn't say I enjoyed it. I think it's not a terrible game if I'm honest - just too pedestrian to be "game of the year", as rated by the site where one of Wu's podcast collaborators also works. If Hitler made Witcher I'd still think Witcher's a good game, although I'd probably ask him to make the combat a little more varied and make it less difficult to end up stuck in quest limbo.

So really, the best anyone can honestly say about it is that, like much shovelware generated for practically no budget, it could conceivably provide a few minutes of amusement while not being memorable in any way.

However, it was generated on an enormous budget for what it is to an absurd level of hype for what is basically a piece of shit.

 

[Handsome Pete]

Ah yes, prioritize story and fuck gameplay.
I'm sure that worked well for FF13 and it's endless hallways of boredom.

I've noticed that "gameplay" never seems to enter into any of Wu's statements about games. There's only "story" and "tasks you complete to unlock the next bit of story." It's a bad way to design games, and not even a very good way to play them, but she's convinced she's cracked the formula and just has to wait for the world to get on her level.

You'd be hard pressed to find a critic who enjoys the "long string of unlockable cutscenes" style of gameplay, and I'm sure Wu would blame that on all the critics being posers who want to sound smart and/or "hardcore." Sort of like she's been doing with Bloodborne.

Oddly enough, DarkSydePhil says the same thing about MGS. The parallels between all these people never get less weird.

 

[Smutley]

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Ah yes, we can finally distill these tweets down to what she really means.

"I am the best dev and my game is the best game. Any game that is different from mine or my interests is an inferior game and should not be compared to mine in any way ever because mine is perfect as are my tastes."

The animation isn't bad for an indy title. I got bored with drawing circles. I didn't say I enjoyed it. I think it's not a terrible game if I'm honest - just too pedestrian to be "game of the year", as rated by the site where one of Wu's podcast collaborators also works. If Hitler made Witcher I'd still think Witcher's a good game, although I'd probably ask him to make the combat a little more varied and make it less difficult to end up stuck in quest limbo.

I've been bringing up the delay in gestures for a while - could you tell me if you experienced them as well? I'd rather rail on her game for reasons it deserves, like having no variety in enemies and combat, being so easy you can beat it without moving, and a story-to-game ratio on par with Metal Gear Solid 4.

 

[Ronald Gaygun]

"Press X to read meaningless text" accurately describes visiting Brianna Wu's Twitter.

 

[wheat pasta]

Gee, her critical analysis of what must be 'wrong' with games sure is nice!
Let's just sit here and wait for her to actually fucking do something to try and change the status quo.
... Don't worry, I'll bake some cookies. I know we'll be here a while.

 

[Ti-99/4A]

Some of the best classic games didn't have a story at all. You don't need to know why the Space Invaders are attacking, why the ghosts are after Pac-Man, how and why you're stuck in an asteroid field or why missiles are raining down on your cities.

 

[MayMay]

I've noticed that "gameplay" never seems to enter into any of Wu's statements about games. There's only "story" and "tasks you complete to unlock the next bit of story." It's a bad way to design games, and not even a very good way to play them, but she's convinced she's cracked the formula and just has to wait for the world to get on her level.

You'd be hard pressed to find a critic who enjoys the "long string of unlockable cutscenes" style of gameplay, and I'm sure Wu would blame that on all the critics being posers who want to sound smart and/or "hardcore." Sort of like she's been doing with Bloodborne.

Oddly enough, DarkSydePhil says the same thing about MGS. The parallels between all these people never get less weird.

...

Okay now we need DSP plays R60

"WHAT THE FUCK MAN THIS CIRCLE IS SO STUPID! THESE QTES ARE BUGGED!"

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

1. Wu's husband skills.... in the very first level in Super Mario Bros.
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I'm a bio student that deals with people that have P.H.D.s constantly. Whether a person has one or not doesn't matter unless they're operating within their field. An insufferable cunt is always an insufferable cunt.

 

[General Juicer]

As usual, the Onion says it better than I ever could.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/highdefinition-television-promises-sharper-crap,866/

Top videogame manufacturers, including Nintendo and Sega, are already developing new systems on which consumers will be able to play astonishingly crisp, ultra-realistic versions of the same old stupid videogame in which two guys pound the shit out of each other.

Designed with an eye to the future, HDTVs will be also able to accomodate yet-to-be-unveiled cable-TV systems, which promise to bring more than 1,000 channels of unwatchable tripe into the home.

"We have seen the future," FCC chair Reed Hundt said, "and it is sharp. And it is crap."