Comicsgate Hangers-On and Drama Whores - A thread about some guy who's mad about Star Wars and the neckbeards obsessively stalking him

[LateNightComics]

Also: Sims got nuts in the end on LSD. Might explain why the story is a mess

He must have dosed Ethans coke stash with acid because the book is a clusterfuck. He can put the fucking ashcan in the trashcan with his retarded delivery system. What kind of a dumbass fucks over the people who paid him the MOST, FIRST.

It's like marvel saying to 30 yearlong customers "fuck you we're woke now". Different side of the same SJW coin.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

In project management, there's an old saying: you can have it on time, on budget, or high quality. But you can't have all 3. Mainstream comics offer predictable schedules at a low price and a low quality. No one turns to indie comics looking for better deadlines, they come looking for better quality.

In what universe do indies have better quality than your standard DC monthly?

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

In what universe do indies have better quality than your standard DC monthly?

Indies USED TO have better quality

 

[Love Soze]

Wait, is Sims still credited in the book? I thought he was out for being a pedo.

 

[Ivan Shatov]

In what universe do indies have better quality than your standard DC monthly?

Not sure if you are being serious.

I'd put any Comicsgate book above Tom King's Batman, Bendis' Superman, Liam Sharp's Green Lantern, etc. Those titles are brooding, formulaic, and uninspiring. The art looks traced, I don't see much to cheer about.

That's not to say every issue is bad and every indie book is excellent. That is to say the mainstream should be an example for comic creators to aspire to. I don't see it with the current titles, they're treading water and trying to avoid making waves.

I haven't done a review of Cyberfrog. It has strengths and weaknesses like any other publication. But overall, I'd say it represents a more coherent work than most DC comics right now. Graveyard Shift, Jawbreakers are right up there too, there's an inspired originality to the art and story that has the potential to grab audiences.

Quality means more than the words and images on a page. The fact the creators are taking chances means something too.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Quality means more than the words and images on a page. The fact the creators are taking chances means something too.

What CG book is taking a chance right now?

 

[LateNightComics]

Not sure if you are being serious.

I'd put any Comicsgate book above Tom King's Batman, Bendis' Superman, Liam Sharp's Green Lantern, etc. Those titles are brooding, formulaic, and uninspiring. The art looks traced, I don't see much to cheer about.

That's not to say every issue is bad and every indie book is excellent. That is to say the mainstream should be an example for comic creators to aspire to. I don't see it with the current titles, they're treading water and trying to avoid making waves.

I haven't done a review of Cyberfrog. It has strengths and weaknesses like any other publication. But overall, I'd say it represents a more coherent work than most DC comics right now. Graveyard Shift, Jawbreakers are right up there too, there's an inspired originality to the art and story that has the potential to grab audiences.

Quality means more than the words and images on a page. The fact the creators are taking chances means something too.

Even Stardust from Nasser? That was pure trash. There are a lot of great books being made independently but CG tends to be at the bottom of the heap. Donal Delay is a shit artist and TUG's drawings look like a crippled homo retard drew them after chugging a bottle of Robitussin.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Even Stardust from Nasser? That was pure trash. There are a lot of great books being made independently but CG tends to be at the bottom of the heap. Donal Delay is a shit artist and TUG's drawings look like a crippled homo exceptional individual drew them after chugging a bottle of Robitussin.

Stardust was a standard indie book, had a interesting story hook but couldnt stick the landing.

Donal is going for a certain style with BRUTAS [He is doing a different style on Vestage]

 

[Ivan Shatov]

What CG book is taking a chance right now?

I said the creators are taking chances. The fact they are out there being critical of the industry is more than anyone at DC does.

Even Stardust from Nasser? That was pure trash. There are a lot of great books being made independently but CG tends to be at the bottom of the heap. Donal Delay is a shit artist and TUG's drawings look like a crippled homo exceptional individual drew them after chugging a bottle of Robitussin.

No fuck Nasser. Don't try to strawman me.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

I said the creators are taking chances. The fact they are out there being critical of the industry is more than anyone at DC does.

Yeah but thats not really TAKING A CHANCE. I know guys who are working in the bigs who are critical who are trying to create change by doing the right thing from the insides

 

[AriZona_LaD]

I said the creators are taking chances. The fact they are out there being critical of the industry is more than anyone at DC does.

Being critical of a failing industry nobody cares about. Taking chances by dunking on SJWs on the internet. Stunning and brave.

 

[Ivan Shatov]

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@LateNightComics I'm not sure what you are trying to get at here.

Dave Sim is the best comic book writer of all time, bar none. We live in his wake, his work makes Alan Moore look like a stand-up comedian doing topical jokes by comparison. Dave's an anti-feminist, he was the victim of cancel culture before we had words for it, and he's stood by his work for decades despite all the criticism. The fact he was able to see where feminism was headed puts him years ahead of where we are right now.

If he and EVS chose to write a book together, that would be amazing.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

@LateNightComics I'm not sure what you are trying to get at here.

Dave Sim is the best comic book writer of all time, bar none. We live in his wake, his work makes Alan Moore look like a stand-up comedian doing topical jokes by comparison. Dave's an anti-feminist, he was the victim of cancel culture before we had words for it, and he's stood by his work for decades despite all the criticism. The fact he was able to see where feminism was headed puts him years ahead of where we are right now.

If he and EVS chose to write a book together, that would be amazing.

He also liked to use his book to have sex with little girls

 

[Ivan Shatov]

Yeah but thats not really TAKING A CHANCE. I know guys who are working in the bigs who are critical who are trying to create change by doing the right thing from the insides

Inside what? A declining industry with a failing distribution model that consistently publishes a product no one wants for years on end?

Creating change by doing the right thing? What does that even mean?

He also liked to use his book to have sex with little girls

Smells like a smear to me.

Last time someone accused him of being a pedophile, turned out he was dating a 21 year old.

Do you have any facts to support your argument or are you just spouting bullshit like the rest of them?

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Smells like a smear to me.

Last time someone accused him of being a pedophile, turned out he was dating a 21 year old.

Do you have any facts to support your argument or are you just spouting bullshit like the rest of them?

You mean like witnesses who saw him do it?

 

[LateNightComics]

Smells like a smear to me.

Last time someone accused him of being a pedophile, turned out he was dating a 21 year old.

Do you have any facts to support your argument or are you just spouting bullshit like the rest of them?

Dave Sim is a pedophile who had sex with 13 year old girls and inserted them into Cerberus as a reward.
He's the biggest piece of shit (other than Ethan) of the modern comics era.
The fact he hasn't been found dangling from minecraft is a mystery to me.

 

[Ivan Shatov]

You mean like witnesses who saw him do it?

Yeah, or anything tangible that actually makes a case for it having ever happened. A police report, a metoo letter from a victim, something from someone who doesn't have an axe to grind over his politics.

The last time I did a deep dive, the story was he was 'grooming' girls until they were 21 before dating them. And a lot of exaggeration that wasn't supported by any facts.

Kind of like what happens regularly with Comicsgate creators.

 

[LateNightComics]

Yeah, or anything tangible that actually makes a case for it having ever happened. A police report, a metoo letter from a victim, something from someone who doesn't have an axe to grind over his politics.

The last time I did a deep dive, the story was he was 'grooming' girls until they were 21 before dating them. And a lot of exaggeration that wasn't supported by any facts.

Kind of like what happens regularly with Comicsgate creators.

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Dave Sim is a pedophile even Sleazy E confirmed this.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Yeah, or anything tangible that actually makes a case for it having ever happened. A police report, a metoo letter from a victim, something from someone who doesn't have an axe to grind over his politics.

The last time I did a deep dive, the story was he was 'grooming' girls until they were 21 before dating them. And a lot of exaggeration that wasn't supported by any facts.

Kind of like what happens regularly with Comicsgate creators.

@LateNightComics Your up

 

[Ivan Shatov]

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Dave Sim is a pedophile even Sleazy E confirmed this.

Yeah, I watched that video. A better resource is this, which includes the actual correspondence described by TUG:

The Trial of Dave Sim

An 'unofficial' blog celebrating the comics art of Dave Sim and Gerhard.

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He had sex with a 21 year old. That doesn't make him a pedophile. He transported her over state lines and she sent him a nude pic. That's sketchy but doesn't make him a pedophile.

TUG talks a lot about ambiguity in the story and connecting the dots. That's asking a lot, no one needs to dictate what I'm allowed to think. I'm okay with taking Mr. Sim at his word because none of these other people were there and there is no other evidence.

The whole situation reminds me of a story about Albert Einstein. He was a serious womanizer. When he was living in Princeton, he would receive women in his parlor wearing nothing but a bath robe, letting his junk hang out. Sometimes these women were physicists, they would have enlightening conversations despite the circumstances. Sometimes they would just get it on and he would never see them again. Did this all the time.

There are a lot of people who would like to cancel Einstein for being a 'brilliant asshole' but relativity is an ingenious way to explain the Universe. On the one hand, if constant casual sex leads to an expanded view of the world we live in, where do I sign up. On the other hand, people who try to cancel others are assholes, give me a reason to care about their smears.

Were I to make a list of all the bad things said about people I care about, the list would be long and the Dave Sim story would be near the bottom. Einstein, Mozart, James Joyce, Nietzsche, Gen. Eisenhower, Bobby Fischer, Socrates, Johnathan Swift, John Lennon, Steve Jobs, etc - they were all accused of being horrible people, doing horrible things, you just have to read between the lines to know the truth!

But the truth is usually very different from the accusations. Going after others this way is cowardly.