War Antifa Is Arming Itself Against a Trump Crackdown - Will leftist pro-gun groups deter political violence or inflame it?

Warning: this piece isn't even trying to hide its leftist, pro-Antifa bias.



Liberals are notoriously loath to take their own side in a fight. But their reticence may well be changing in an age of vigilante, white nationalist terror—openly condoned and supported by an incumbent president who has suggested that his armed devotees won’t stand for his removal from office. Increasingly, the antifa left is arguing—and training—in response. They are worried not only about an armed reckoning following a contested election, but also about rising violence from the paramilitaries loyal to President Donald Trump.

Consider the tense political climate in the Pacific Northwest, where Washington state Representative Matt Shea, a dough-faced Christian dominionist from Spokane, made news last year when his instructions on how to build a “holy army” that would kill “all males” who refused to submit to biblical law leaked to the press. “Assassination to remove tyrants is just, not murder,” he wrote. The tyrant he referred to was not Trump, of course, but the communists he imagined running the government. 


Such paranoid fantasies may be familiar to heavy consumers of YouTube and Reddit, but watching them transposed on to the structures of governance is a novelty. As a result, many leftists and even some liberals are beginning to reconsider their feelings about firearms, joining a loose amalgamation of gun groups, from John Brown Gun Clubs (which take their name from the abolitionist) to the Pink Pistols (an LGBTQ group), Liberal Gun Club, and Socialist Rifle Association. Some of these organizations are moderate and traditionalist, others radical and revolutionary. But all share one implicit goal: to normalize firearms ownership and training among liberals. Some of their members hope such efforts will at least make Republicans think twice before attempting a massacre.

Whether that approach will inflame political violence—especially in hot spots like the Pacific Northwest—or deter it remains uncertain. In April, Shea spoke at an “open carry” rally in Olympia, which drewhundreds of people, many armed with AR-15s and shotguns. About ten members of the Puget Sound John Brown Gun Club were also there, handing out flyers mocking Shea and another speaker, Joey Gibson of Patriot Prayer, who, they said, “attracted and embraced” rapists, pedophiles, and skinheads. “Want to defend your community from people like Matt Shea?” one flyer asked. At the moment, the Puget Sound JBGC, which was founded less than four months after Trump took office, has around 30 active members. But its firearms safety and marksmanship workshops fill up faster every time the club hosts them. Full members undergo lengthy vetting, but anyone can come learn how guns work, what the parts are, and how to handle them safely, before going to the range and learning to shoot. “We’re talking about white liberals, mostly women, who are like ‘let’s get this class going,’” the club’s founder, Duke Aaron, said. “Two years ago these people would be like ‘Guns? This is terrible.’ That’s not the reaction now.”



these people would be like ‘Guns? This is terrible.’ That’s not the reaction now.”



Trump deserves most of the blame for this particular uptick in gun sales. In March, he told Breitbart, “I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump—I have the tough people … it would be very bad, very bad,” if his followers decided to “play it tough.” In those remarks

Not all threats these days come veiled. Former Trump adviser Roger Stone has used the Proud Boys—a group of neofascist men who describe themselves as “Western chauvinists”—as his own private security force. Border militias have been conducting vigilante operations against suspected undocumented immigrants. (One vigilante told BuzzFeed in April that his group was coordinating with border protection officials on an hourly basis.) And former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, who compared American politics in 2019 to the vitriolic climate just before the Civil War, lent his name to an Italian “gladiator school” for training “culture warriors” to defend Christianity in the West. 


Stories such as these have inspired a predictable response. The Puget Sound JBGC was founded after Aaron spotted hate graffiti in the park where his child plays. “People have some real fear about what the future holds for them, and some real fear about what lurks down the street,” he said. There is some talk of what would happen when Donald Trump or a more competent authoritarian successor bombs urban centers of resistance, like Seattle, but for the most part, these “community defense” groups are less concerned with doomsday scenarios than they are with immediate threats against mosques, synagogues, abortion clinics, and the like.

Unsurprisingly, perhaps, most of their current members are white and male. Many are veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. A third of the Socialist Rifle Association’s 2,000 members identify as LGBTQ, and 8 percent are transgender. “We’ve got liberal folks, politicians and people in the media, saying, ‘the government is becoming a fascist regime,’ and then turning around and saying, ‘You can’t have your guns, we can only have guns in the hands of people we’re calling fascists,’” said Alex Tackett, the SRA’s 22-year-old president. 


Of course, for pragmatic as well as public relations purposes, most of these groups insist that they merely want to promote gun safety. The Puget Sound JBGC vigorously rejects the term “militia,” noting that its members are instead merely seeking social justice. “Any police officer who wants to infiltrate us, best of luck; we’re incredibly boring, and everything we do is completely legal,” Aaron said.
 
Most of my reading for the last few years has been in academia so I'm used to reading with a high lighter and having to go back and revisit sources.
Oh jesus christ you're one of them? How on earth does that help?

I have read so many fucking second hand books where some sped seemingly highlighted phrases at complete fucking random... You read the goddamn book stupid, not write in it. It's not highlights (Zing!)
 
Oh jesus christ you're one of them? How on earth does that help?

I have read so many fucking second hand books where some sped seemingly highlighted phrases at complete fucking random... You read the goddamn book stupid, not write in it. It's not highlights (Zing!)
It does help quickly find out when "credible" sources are just pulling stuff out of their asses and when blogs actually did their research on their citations.

It also is a good way to ignore a bunch of clickbait articles and go straight for what they all are quoting, such as a government PDF, instead of being stuck with a bunch of shitty hottakes.
 
Oh jesus christ you're one of them? How on earth does that help?

I have read so many fucking second hand books where some sped seemingly highlighted phrases at complete fucking random... You read the goddamn book stupid, not write in it. It's not highlights (Zing!)
Because it allows me to go back to a source and find exactly what I am looking for. I also use tabs on which I can write why I may want to go back to the page. It's much easier to highlight and use tabs to organize what I may need to go back for in an issue of International Security Studies or an academic press book than to spend time reading back through the entire thing to figure out where the information I want is. I also use highlighting for identifying central arguments of articles and books and supporting evidence or data, which made grad school much easier because my reading load was in the hundreds of pages a week.
 
Ah, I see we're talking about two different things. You're talking more about academic publications, I was talking about people doing it to novels and light non-fictional analysis.

Ok then good, so you're not that kind of crazy person.
I loaned a fiction paperback to a dude once and the idiot scrawled notes in it to prove how clever he was. I proceed myself cleverer by never loaning him another book.

Come to think of it, this same goober declared himself to be "radicalized" when Trump was elected, and I'm told he talks of revolution often. I don't think he has practiced marksmanship in the last ten years.
 
Ah, I see we're talking about two different things. You're talking more about academic publications, I was talking about people doing it to novels and light non-fictional analysis.

Ok then good, so you're not that kind of crazy person.
Unless I'm analyzing something fictional (which I'm thinking about doing for a larger project I want to work on on my own time but which I've written about before and the topic of which is probably the only thing which would keep me in academia for any amount of time) specifically for research purposes then I don't deface the books I read purely for pleasure with notes and highlights.
 
I loaned a fiction paperback to a dude once and the idiot scrawled notes in it to prove how clever he was. I proceed myself cleverer by never loaning him another book.

Come to think of it, this same goober declared himself to be "radicalized" when Trump was elected, and I'm told he talks of revolution often. I don't think he has practiced marksmanship in the last ten years.
That is definitely a dick move. I would never borrow a book from someone and fuck it up with notes and shit. If I felt the need to keep the original text and highlight and take notes I would either buy my own copy or photocopy the pages I needed.
 
I know one of these spergs. He's obsessed with Mosin rifles, like they have magic fashbashing powers that your regular deerkiller boomstick lacks.

At least he's got an historical fetish, and not the Dallas Weeb Shooter cosplay mentality, I guess?
Well mosins are cheap, reliable, and they're Russian. Is it possible he put that much thought into it?

To be honest anyone who has a love for a particular gun or line of guns who doesn't shoot many guns regularly at a range or whatever is a poser. It's like kindergartners thinking lamborghinis are the coolest car ever because they play with micro machines. What do you know about cars?
 
I don't understand why anyone buys magazines at all, let alone at "new hardbound book" prices.

I buy magazines once in a while, depending on the model and caliber I need them for.

It's a reference to Jim Zumbo, who opened his mouth and talked about how hunters shouldn't use military style rifles to hunt game. Of course, there are problems with that -- namely, that one man's military rifle is another man's hunting rifle. The result was that he got blackballed from the firearm/pro-2A community.

So I have a friend with an in on this, and got him to give me the pocket edition:

LOL I love how the "you don't need military rifles to hunt deer" crowd doesn't realize that pretty much every kind of firearm that has ever existed was issued or in use by some country's military at some point in time, from primitive matchlock muskets to modern automatic rifles. Even big game .500+ Nitro Express types were brought over from Africa to flush out German sniper nests in World War I at times.

I don't give a fuck about hunters. The 2a isn't there to protect their weird hobby.

I'm neutral on hunting in general, I mean, if you eat meat, you have no right to complain IMO. Besides, deer are kind of a pest animal in some places, so I kinda get it. Plus, it does put meat on the table for some families. Trophy hunters, though, those guys are the real weirdos. Shelling out thousands just to put a rare endangered (?) rainbow colored giraffe or whatever in your man cave? Eh, you do you I guess.

But yes, I love it when people say the 2nd Amendment is "for hunting," when it's clear they've never read the actual language of the BoR.
 
Which gun is most like the hanzo steel katana? I need to know so I dont look like a idiot in the anarchist revolution?

I can hook you up with an 80% AR-10 receiver made of forged Tycenadium along with a jig and special cutting tools. :tyceknife:

It has skeletons engraved on the sides and does +9 damage against minorities.
 
I buy magazines once in a while,
I'm neutral on hunting in general, I mean, if you eat meat, you have no right to complain IMO. Besides, deer are kind of a pest animal in some places, so I kinda get it. Plus, it does put meat on the table for some families. Trophy hunters, though, those guys are the real weirdos. Shelling out thousands just to put a rare endangered (?) rainbow colored giraffe or whatever in your man cave? Eh, you do you I guess.

But yes, I love it when people say the 2nd Amendment is "for hunting," when it's clear they've never read the actual language of the BoR.

I'm not *against* hunting. It just seems like an incredible waste of time and effort. A day spent hunting, plus licenses, travel, and all the silly toys they get, multiplied by the chance of failure, is not as good a way to get meat as working that same day and buying meat that was grown on a farm.

Of course, if you're going to lean out your window and Glock a deer, that makes sense to me. I'm thinking more of the guys who take a big trip to hunt and come home empty handed and filthy.

To each their own.
 
Which gun is most like the hanzo steel katana? I need to know so I dont look like a idiot in the anarchist revolution?
It depends on the job, but I would recommend a high quality AR-15 with a holographic reflex sight. It's best to keep it simple. Also, make sure to invest in high quality magazines. A weak magazine spring is the bane of my life.

 
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