👓 TGWTG Nostalgia Chick / Lindsay Ellis / TheDudette - aka Hotdogs in face girl

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Her hair's always been bad imo. Even in early vids it looked kinda dirty and thrown together and that was when she was putting some effort into her appearance.
 
friedshrimp dijo:
Not Brad of course, I was referring to the likes of Doug or Lindsay, who think Animaniacs is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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People like that annoy me. On a conceptual level, Animaniacs had a lot of clever writing to it that was only manageable because Spielberg was producing it(something they even referenced by painting ET as god on the Sistine Chapel roof to impress him and saying “know your audience folks”) but it was still nothing more than a slightly above average children’s cartoon. It’s great moments are spaced out between a lot of forgettable episodes. Every Les Miseranimals, Frozen Peas, and Please Please Please Get a Life foundations, had a million basic slapstick episodes follow them.

Phil Ken Sebben dijo:
They didn't have the monster hit that was "Let It Go". For months afterwards that song was everywhere. It's then stayed in the public consciousness ever since. Never underestimate the power of marketing.
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Marketer here. Frozen had some fairly terrible marketing initially. Around that time I actually attended a lecture about how they missed the mark with Frozen. The snowman is popular with kids, but frozen sold itself on a “girl power” message that Disney didn’t actually push. It was word of mouth that sold Frozen. Let it Go work well for it, and that’s why Elsa is disproportionately more loved than Ana will ever be. However, the total 180 Disney did from pushing Olaf over Elsa, who has little screentime leads me to believe that much like The Little Mermaid before it, Disney had no idea what they had until it came out and the public latched on. Marketing helped propel Frozen, but it was the fact that it was seen as a social movement that helped it to become the highest grossing animated film ever.

And on a side note, Beauty and the Beast also had a bit song that topped charts upon release, and The Lion king’s soundtrack was extremely successful.
 
Princess Ariel dijo:
I haven't watched her vids in a very long time but Lindsay popped up in my suggested today with a new video so I clicked it.
When she appeared on the screen I had to check, but it looks like the wine and popcorn have caught up with her.



I thought these videos were AT LEAST ten years apart....


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Rachael Ray? Is that you?
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Princess Ariel dijo:
I haven't watched her vids in a very long time but Lindsay popped up in my suggested today with a new video so I clicked it.
When she appeared on the screen I had to check, but it looks like the wine and popcorn have caught up with her.



I thought these videos were AT LEAST ten years apart....


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Rachael Ray? Is that you?
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:powerlevel: She was at her best like a 6/10 - someone you'd probably bang, but you wouldn't brag about it to anyone. Now, I'd have to drink at least double the alcohol she had imbibed during her arrest to want to smash that.

EDIT: I'm of course talking about an inflated IGN 6/10 that I'm adding an extra point to so I don't seem like a douchebag.
 
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The Shadow dijo:
:powerlevel: She was at her best like a 6/10 - someone you'd probably bang, but you wouldn't brag about it to anyone. Now, I'd have to drink at least double the alcohol she had imbibed during her arrest to want to smash that.
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If I drank the amount of alcohol I'd have to to find her attractive, I'd end up like this and not be able to do it anyway.

 
Hollow Cost dijo:
makes sense. they grew up in the renaissance
problem is they didn't stop watching religiously well into their adult years

I've actually seen an article on their Chez Apocalypse website where they were crying about how not feminist Frozen was. kinda shocked me, tbh, considering how often feminists claim things for feminism
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I posted that a few pages back. Suprisingly, it was actually Lindsay responding to another feminist who hated on the movie because Elsa and Anna were too flawed to be "feminist." For once Lindsay took the more reasonable position and pointed out that perfect characters are boring and that treating female characters equally requires giving them flaws like everyone else.
 
This might be a new low. Lindsay tries to draw a connection between classic monster movies and Birth of a Nation by claiming that, even though she admits the filmmakers probably never intended anything like this, there's apparently undeniable racial coding underlying them with the monsters being code for minorities and the heroes being code for KKK members. I honestly didn't think I'd ever see Lindsay get this ridiculous.
 
Grand Lunar dijo:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YesMWAxqJ60This might be a new low. Lindsay tries to draw a connection between classic monster movies and Birth of a Nation by claiming that, even though she admits the filmmakers probably never intended anything like this, there's apparently undeniable racial coding underlying them with the monsters being code for minorities and the heroes being code for KKK members. I honestly didn't think I'd ever see Lindsay get this ridiculous.
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That's ridiculous enough that we could probably show this to middle American parents as an example of what their non-mathematically inclined kids will be doing with their lives after a liberal arts education. This is frankly pretty damning of how fucking hard postmodernist critics reach to have something to say.

For fucks sake, she uses Beauty and the Beast as an image that's based on a French fairy tale that predates cinema by a couple of centuries. That idea reaches waaay back into the ancient world.
 
There are indeed political undertones in stuff like The Shape of Water but I don't think Del Toro was seriously intending on being that race-related with it. The guy more or less wanted to write a romantic fairy tale that subverts the typical monster-damsel formula. And Beauty and the Beast by itself is the same thing--a simple romantic fairy tale.
 
The Shadow dijo:
For fucks sake, she uses Beauty and the Beast as an image that's based on a French fairy tale that predates cinema by a couple of centuries. That idea reaches waaay back into the ancient world.
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Speaking of which, it's weird that she claimed Disney's Beauty and the Beast was an "I can fix him" type of story. Hasn't she defended it from those accusations multiple times in the past? Maybe she just doesn't have to the courage to contradict other feminists anymore.
 
Grand Lunar dijo:
Speaking of which, it's weird that she claimed Disney's Beauty and the Beast was an "I can fix him" type of story. Hasn't she defended it from those accusations multiple times in the past? Maybe she just doesn't have to the courage to contradict other feminists anymore.
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Or maybe all of her narratives are total bullshit to begin with and she needs new material. But your point is well taken, and Lindsay doesn't strike me as someone with a great deal of courage or backbone. I don't feel like most people with snarky pop culture critic personas are. Lindsay never really says anything that will rock the boat with her audience. She knows they expect a certain brand of the kind of gruel they were spoonfed in college.

:powerlevel:That courage thing? That's why I respect RedLetterMedia so much. The Ghostbusters Scientist Man episode and Nerd Crew thing especially really lays bare what vapid shills the "Geek Culture" industry is full of. They're as critical of the system and culture surrounding the creation of this media and its blatant manipulation of stupid fanboy sentiment as they are of the films themselves. Lindsay and her ilk, for example, were all about the "Black Panther is an important cultural milestone, OMG" which was, if we really look at it- a great way for Disney to get some extra marketing hype on a movie that was already pretty much guaranteed to be successful.
 
KeroHippo dijo:
People like that annoy me. On a conceptual level, Animaniacs had a lot of clever writing to it that was only manageable because Spielberg was producing it(something they even referenced by painting ET as god on the Sistine Chapel roof to impress him and saying “know your audience folks”) but it was still nothing more than a slightly above average children’s cartoon. It’s great moments are spaced out between a lot of forgettable episodes. Every Les Miseranimals, Frozen Peas, and Please Please Please Get a Life foundations, had a million basic slapstick episodes follow them.


Marketer here. Frozen had some fairly terrible marketing initially. Around that time I actually attended a lecture about how they missed the mark with Frozen. The snowman is popular with kids, but frozen sold itself on a “girl power” message that Disney didn’t actually push. It was word of mouth that sold Frozen. Let it Go work well for it, and that’s why Elsa is disproportionately more loved than Ana will ever be. However, the total 180 Disney did from pushing Olaf over Elsa, who has little screentime leads me to believe that much like The Little Mermaid before it, Disney had no idea what they had until it came out and the public latched on. Marketing helped propel Frozen, but it was the fact that it was seen as a social movement that helped it to become the highest grossing animated film ever.

And on a side note, Beauty and the Beast also had a bit song that topped charts upon release, and The Lion king’s soundtrack was extremely successful.
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Well, you could put The Lion King into the "not knowing what they had until after release" category as well. Disney sent their "B team" to work on it, while they had their best guys working on Pocahontas, as the thought it would be the bigger movie, especially with girls.

TLK was the first movie I ever saw in a movie theater. I remember walking into the room and my 8 year old mind was blown by how many people were in there. I went to the same theater to see Pocahontas, and there weren't nearly as many people.

Thing is, cute sells. Yeah, you had that annoying raccoon in Pocahontas, but TLK had more cute animals. Simba and Nala are cute, and, unlike the raccoon, were kinda relatable to a lot of kids. It's part of the reason that, while a lot of kids didn't like The Hunchback of Notre Dame, a lot of adults did (and do).

As far as the feminist angle goes, Disney seems to be trying to head in that direction with their tv specials, at least more so then their movies. I almost choked on my coffee when hearing the snowman tell another character to "stop mansplaining" during some Frozen special my niece was watching.
 
VermilionFluttershy dijo:
Well, you could put The Lion King into the "not knowing what they had until after release" category as well. Disney sent their "B team" to work on it, while they had their best guys working on Pocahontas, as the thought it would be the bigger movie, especially with girls.

TLK was the first movie I ever saw in a movie theater. I remember walking into the room and my 8 year old mind was blown by how many people were in there. I went to the same theater to see Pocahontas, and there weren't nearly as many people.

Thing is, cute sells. Yeah, you had that annoying raccoon in Pocahontas, but TLK had more cute animals. Simba and Nala are cute, and, unlike the raccoon, were kinda relatable to a lot of kids. It's part of the reason that, while a lot of kids didn't like The Hunchback of Notre Dame, a lot of adults did (and do).

As far as the feminist angle goes, Disney seems to be trying to head in that direction with their tv specials, at least more so then their movies. I almost choked on my coffee when hearing the snowman tell another character to "stop mansplaining" during some Frozen special my niece was watching.
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Maybe initially, but they knew way before release. Don’t forgot that the first trailer for Lion King was literally the finished “Circle of Life” Sequence in the beginning. That was it. No talking, no editing. The scene was the first scene they finished and they thought it was so perfect they just put it out raw as the trailer and it blew people away
 
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Alto dijo:
There are indeed political undertones in stuff like The Shape of Water but I don't think Del Toro was seriously intending on being that race-related with it. The guy more or less wanted to write a romantic fairy tale that subverts the typical monster-damsel formula. And Beauty and the Beast by itself is the same thing--a simple romantic fairy tale.
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Sadly DelToro, one of my favs, has drank the koolaide.

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The Pale Man represents all institutional evil feeding on the helpless. It's not accidental that he is a) Pale b) a Man. He's thriving now.
These are Pale Man times.
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