🎨 Artcow DisneyFan01 / Andrea Avrett - Womanchild whose Husbando is the Treasure Planet version of John Silver; Rewriting Kingdom Hearts with her Self-Insert for Over a Decade

Okay, so didn't someone say earlier that Kopa on the rug there is the son of Simba and Nala? How does this not make him the Crown Prince equivalent of the fucking Pride Lands (unless he has an older brother and Simba just gives no fucks about the rest, which is kind of worse)? How is there not a spaceship full of angry lions chasing Silver's ship like one planet behind them?

... shit, you guys, nobody give her that idea because I would actually enjoy seeing that.
 
Okay, so didn't someone say earlier that Kopa on the rug there is the son of Simba and Nala? How does this not make him the Crown Prince equivalent of the fucking Pride Lands (unless he has an older brother and Simba just gives no fucks about the rest, which is kind of worse)? How is there not a spaceship full of angry lions chasing Silver's ship like one planet behind them?

... shit, you guys, nobody give her that idea because I would actually enjoy seeing that.

As if she'd do anything remotely creative with her story. Besides, lions can't fly space ships.

Edit: Also, Kopa's not even been slightly canon since Simba's Pride came out and doubly so since Lion Guard. He's probably just some annoying Lion that thinks he's prince and Simba was likely glad to get rid of him
 
To clarify the Kopa thing--Kopa was apparently Simba's son and the Pridelands' crown-prince in a series of sequel picture books that came out before Simba's Pride or whatever other tv spinoffs Disney poofed into existence. He's considered semi-canon material but to be honest, most everyone except for the insane fandom has mostly forgotten about him. Fans like to ponder why he disappeared when the real answer is that Disney decided not to use him and just went for a new character instead to play Simba's offspring. Over the years, the fandom has generated theories about his disappearance from being killed off to running away to whatever bullshit.

I think this is her way of "explaining" why a forgotten semi-canon character is no longer part of the story in the Lion King Universe or whatever.
 
To clarify the Kopa thing--Kopa was apparently Simba's son and the Pridelands' crown-prince in a series of sequel picture books that came out before Simba's Pride or whatever other tv spinoffs Disney poofed into existence. He's considered semi-canon material but to be honest, most everyone except for the insane fandom has mostly forgotten about him. Fans like to ponder why he disappeared when the real answer is that Disney decided not to use him and just went for a new character instead to play Simba's offspring. Over the years, the fandom has generated theories about his disappearance from being killed off to running away to whatever bullshit.

I think this is her way of "explaining" why a forgotten semi-canon character is no longer part of the story in the Lion King Universe or whatever.
A cheap joke but there you go.
 
Lol, so somebody asked her if she's planning to add Star Wars to her fic, at which she commented it'd be "weird" since the characters already referenced the movies hundreds of times.

I'd love to see that tbh. Esp. if they venture into the new movies. Rey and Marina meeting at last, would be a Sue dream come true. But it's tempting to put her in the original trilogy just to see some VaderXMarinaXManbearpig love triangle.
 
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I can't see DisneyFan01 allowing Rey to exist in the same universe as Marina, as Rey is the Star Wars canon equivalent where the universe revolves around her for reasons. At best, she'd just replace Rey with Marina, like what she did with Kingdom Hearts, and just go from there.
 
To clarify the Kopa thing--Kopa was apparently Simba's son and the Pridelands' crown-prince in a series of sequel picture books that came out before Simba's Pride or whatever other tv spinoffs Disney poofed into existence. He's considered semi-canon material but to be honest, most everyone except for the insane fandom has mostly forgotten about him. Fans like to ponder why he disappeared when the real answer is that Disney decided not to use him and just went for a new character instead to play Simba's offspring. Over the years, the fandom has generated theories about his disappearance from being killed off to running away to whatever bullshit.

I think this is her way of "explaining" why a forgotten semi-canon character is no longer part of the story in the Lion King Universe or whatever.
I know this post is a few weeks old but it's worth mentioning that Kopa is the cub shown at the very end of the Lion King, he only had a larger role in the picture books from the mid 90's. So his absence from the direct to video sequel and current TV show is kind of conspicuous, but the target audience of both of those don't care, and might not have even seen the original movie if their parents are overly strict.

Still bugged the hell out of me back in 1998, though.
 
I know this post is a few weeks old but it's worth mentioning that Kopa is the cub shown at the very end of the Lion King, he only had a larger role in the picture books from the mid 90's. So his absence from the direct to video sequel and current TV show is kind of conspicuous, but the target audience of both of those don't care, and might not have even seen the original movie if their parents are overly strict.

Still bugged the hell out of me back in 1998, though.

Well not exactly.
The script for the Lion King gives no mention of the name (jokingly referred to as Fluffy in commentary tracks that predate Simba's Pride) or gender of Simba's child and while in the audio books for the Lion King Rafiki is mentioned holding up Simba's son, audio books can hardly be called the most canonical of works.
It should however be noted that after Simba's Pride, later audio books don't change the gender of the child, but this could just be as to save money or whatever by not changing the script.

As far as I'm aware, Kopa has only appeared in one book that was written by a guy named Alex Simmons who takes complete credit for the character, meaning that Disney had no real involvement in the creation of the character, leaving him dubiously canon.

Final point is that the development team of Simba's Pride seemed (from what I've read) oblivious to the existence of Kopa meaning that there was no real way they could have included him in their film.

Basically what I'm saying is that Kopa is a character that has never really been canon and any non-appearance of him should not be seen as conspicuous. I do however admit that as the Lion King fandom is kinda intense, any appearance of him in fan-fiction is totally justifiable and I was just finding anything kind of questionable in FotH. It also really wouldn't have hurt to at least mention him in Lion Guard, even in regards to in a joke form.

Edit: Just clicked the the whole bugging thing was in regards to when you were likely a kid so sorry if I came off as kinda rude.
 
It's still relevant to talk in regards to the fic tho, because otherwise, what will happen to Kopa? It seems cruel the idea of Marina keeping him forever, but since he doesn't exist in Lion King outside of those little books, he's basically an OC at this point, and DF can do whatever the hell she pleases with him. It's not like he's needed for the sequel movie or whatever.
 
AAAAAND NEW CHAPTER! I'll give her the benefit of the doubt that these months she's been a little more productive than before. Let's keep this up!
 
I do not know if anyone here has ever heard of 'According to Spike Milligan', a series of classic novels adulterated by the late comedian Spike Milligan. For example, a line from 'Black Beauty According to Spike Milligan' reads as follows:

"My new master's name was Jeremiah Barker, but everyone called him Jeremiah Barker. Polly, his wife, was just as good a match as a man could have. She was plump and had a moustache, a trim, tidy little woman, with smooth dark hair, dark eyes and a huge bum. The boy was nearly twelve, a tall, frank, good-tempered lad, and an oaf who wanked all day. Little Dorothy was her mother all over again, at eight years old with a big bum."

I used to enjoy Spike Milligan's editing and enjoyed doing this sort of thing to bad and not-so-bad writing when I was younger and have looked at some of the fiction she's written with that sort of view, but it's so boring and difficult to read. It's not entertaining like her illustrations, and I envision the president of the USA whenever I see the name Donald. Scanning through the recent offering, there's one paragraph that's sort of amusing and possibly usable:

"She tightened the blanket around her body as it was making her feel much warmer. But it felt even warmer as Silver kept his good arm around her shoulders. Her stride felt a bit slower than his causing her to get closer to him. It was only a few steps when she was nearly colliding against his round belly and broad chest. She held herself even closer against him as they were getting closer to the entrance, but it was slowing her down."
 
Oh man,this chick. I remembered encountering her on ED once years ago.
Glad to see she's still hanging onto that manbear gut.

Unrelated but also related; I was browsing concept art of Treasure Planet and found some early designs for Silver.
Imagine Marina banging any of these fellas.

edit: ohmygod sorry for the double images, I'm still new at this
 

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Some useless Silver trivia I found:
Apparently when first designing his cybernetic prosthetics, they wanted to test if they could flawlessly attach CGI elements to a 2D character.
So as a test, they gave Silver's arm and eye to sketches of none other than Captain Hook.
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And an unrelated one that i thought was interesting to share was these early designs for Captain Amelia and that dog doctor thing
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Some useless Silver trivia I found:
Apparently when first designing his cybernetic prosthetics, they wanted to test if they could flawlessly attach CGI elements to a 2D character.
So as a test, they gave Silver's arm and eye to sketches of none other than Captain Hook.
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And an unrelated one that i thought was interesting to share was these early designs for Captain Amelia and that dog doctor thing
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Doesn't surprise me they'd use Hook as a study.

Also, it was probably for the best they changed Doppler when they did, at least to fit him into a more comedic role (even if he came off like a random canine person out of a Uncle Scrooge comic).
 
These pictures are so cool! I love the behind the scenes stuff of movies and in animation I love to hear all the stuff they went through to get it to look right, as well as the ideas they threw out.

On topic, I think Andrea's problem is that she either can't caricature or has no non-tracing abilities. Her drawings of people on her deviant art (and presumably the animals she draws as her business) all lookpretty good with the exception of Jodie Benson who is uncanny. However her drawings of cartoons are just weird. Her lack of ability could be seen as her just tracing and shading her pictures but she could just fail at knowing what to exaggerate. I'd post pics but mobile hates me
 
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