US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
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Current members of the Senate
https://www.senate.gov/senators/

Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Sammich]

Are flock cameras good because progressive dislike them?

They sort of are. They've been used with great success catching illegals and niggers committing crimes.

 

[DYLAN ‘DIELAWN’ VOLK]

ah see, but they did. you'll not find a vending machine one that won't take a dollar coin. the treasury worked with the industry (who spent many millions refitting machines) on the program. it was all set to go off perfectly. the vending machines, toll booths etc were all ready to go, the treasury pre-stocked government facilities, banks and post offices with dollar coins and made the coins available to citizens via the mint website at cost. no shipping or fees. all congress had to do was authorize the treasury to withdraw the dollar, but concerned citizens spurred on by lobbyists flooding capitol hill with letters and emails and phone calls and that killed it.

also, an interesting arbitrage scheme came about via the mint's offering of mint boxes of dollar coins at cost. since there was no shipping or fees, people bought thousands of dollars in these coins to rack up credit card rewards and cash back, then they turned the coins in at the bank. literal free money. that's why you can't get coins from the mint at cost anymore, or full boxes or bags.

I had a friend in school who brought three stupid Sacagawea coins to lunch every day for like five years because her dad had gotten a bunch of them somehow. This makes so much sense now lmao.

 

[Puff]

I will take 9/10's man.

6/10 Rogan is KINDA on our side, and highly useful because he's really good at letting people talk and will get on guys from our side.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

They sort of are. They've been used with great success catching illegals and niggers committing crimes.

Not doubting but do you have any data to back that up? I would like to have it in pocket for future use.

6/10 Rogan is KINDA on our side, and highly useful because he's really good at letting people talk and will get on guys from our side.

OOOOH I thought you meant JD. I have not watched the whole thing.

Honestly the fact that Rogan nakedly called the DNC out on cheating which they have been doing and were caught doing by the FBI but who cheated:

1. The 1948 "Box 13" Scandal (Lyndon B. Johnson)​

The most prominent case of FBI-investigated Democratic election fraud in this era occurred in 1948, not the 50s or 60s, during the Texas Democratic primary runoff.

• The Incident: Lyndon B. Johnson trailed his opponent, Coke Stevenson, until a "lost" ballot box (Box 13) was discovered in Jim Wells County, containing 202 votes for Johnson, giving him an 87-vote victory margin.
• FBI Investigation: The FBI and postal inspectors investigated allegations that the votes were fraudulent. Former FBI agent T. Keilis Dibrell confirmed that the last 200 names on the poll list were in alphabetical order and written in the same ink and handwriting.
• Confession: In 1977, election judge Luis Salas confessed that he had certified the fraudulent votes under orders from political boss George Parr.
• Outcome: Despite the evidence and a federal district court ordering Johnson's name off the ballot, Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black stayed the lower court's ruling, allowing Johnson to take the seat. No criminal charges were successfully prosecuted at the time.

Gosh that sounds familiar...

Edit for: In the event you do no understand the AI vomit: There was physical evidence that LBJ and the DNC cheated but in 1977 someone confessed to the steal.

So basically: LBJ should never have obtained the office that propelled him into the VP chair because he was caught cheating and everyone just kind of ignored it.

 

[CansOfCant]

I had a friend in school who brought three stupid Sacagawea coins to lunch every day for like five years because her dad had gotten a bunch of them somehow. This makes so much sense now lmao.

Yeah I worked in the T-Rex Park (old IBM complex) in Boca Raton and they'd ONLY fill the change machine in the break rooms with those things. Everyone was walking jinglin'.

 

[Day of the Cope]

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On the one hand, it's probably some #MeToo bullshit attempt to damage his campaign.
On the other, he's also brown and Democrat, so it's probably true.

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

6/10 Rogan is KINDA on our side, and highly useful because he's really good at letting people talk and will get on guys from our side.

Rogan is good for sometimes peaking or introducing the normies to important topics, ideas and trends.
You'll never get a 1488 TND mainstream podcaster, but Rogan is like a gateway drug. It could be a lot worse for us.

 

[Escalating Violence]

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So is the Democrats new strategy right now is to accuse male candidates they don’t like of being degens so they can replace them?

 

[Unredacted TND]

I don't need a hand pic from you to disprove it, just one of a bacon cheeseburger with a bite taken out of it

I actually eat cheeseburger, I'll take a picture next time i eat out.

 

[plastic Consumer]

Flock is being used to help ICE shoot illegals so I dont care about them. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Do we really need AI Surveillance to do that? Just make it legal to shoot them and I'd do it myself.

These people have bank accounts, they receive welfare, we know who they are without mass surveillance.
And I'm sure having surveillance cameras operated by a third party to get around privacy laws and selling it to the government won't backfire in anyway, like how they arrested a bunch of J6ers based on data retrieved from their cellphones and sold to the government in the same way. We already have the surveillance to track every foreigner in the country already, we just don't use it.

https://www.businessinsider.com/doj-is-mapping-cell-phone-location-data-from-capitol-rioters-2021-3

They know who and where every single one of us are already. We already live in a mass AI government surveillance state.
Here's a good article explaining HOW we track everyone in the country using their phone data and connect it to an identity:
The Times Privacy Project Article goes over how cellphone data is used to collect data on you, each dot here is a data point of deanonymized people:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/12/19/opinion/location-tracking-cell-phone.html

Related note about AI Surveillance and data collection:
They feed the data they collect on you into "AI" or predictive algorithms to predict your future behaviors.
The only thing the government mentioned being concerned about in the report on behavior predicting algorithms (AI) is "This could hurt blacks and minorities"

(Consumer scores mean behavior predicting numbers)

https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-22-104527.pdf

Here's a declassified article going over the data collected and used by the government. Its not just from your cellphones, its also from the sites you visit, its all linked to an identifying number so your data from multiple unconnected sources can be connected together. Flock Cameras would just be another node in this network.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23844477-odni-declassified-report-on-cai-january2022/

WHY do you think we're building Data Centers right now? WHY do you think the government is in support of it? Where do you think your data is stored? Where do they generate your predicted behavior from it?

Supporting mass surveillance because a progressive hates flock cameras is the republican equivalent of chugging Tylenol while pregnant because Trump said something bad about it.

But again, I know I'm shouting into the void. I've been talking about this stuff for years, but once topics hit the political normiesphere you can't talk about them anymore without people repeating the given and allowed talking points.
To be fair, when Jesus told the truth they crucified him, when Socrates did it they made him drink Hemlock. Most of these types had a small follower base before becoming prominent figures. So trashcan me.

 

[WiggerNationalist]

So is the Democrats new strategy right now is to accuse male candidates they don’t like of being degens so they can replace them?

I think this is their go-to strategy for the "moderate" dems to coup the DSA members that they believe will cost them elections. Note that they're only doing this to candidates in swing states like Michigan or with absolutely unelectable candidates like Platner in Maine. They don't care that commies are taking over their party, because they agree with them. They care that some of these commies are going to lose them influence in legislative branch.

 

[JayseeDenton]

Can someone explain whats going on with this whole "We're combining our military with Israel" shit? Everyone is in full crash out mode over it on X but Ive seen nothing regarding it other than that.

In addition to what others said the bigger picture is that they amped themselves up when iran was effectively chimping the strait into being a problem and convinced themselves that israel was about to be destroyed and tkd was nigh.

Since it's becoming clear that isn't happening they're coming down from their high and looking for extra reasons to shid, fard, piss, poob, and doom about.

 

[Tanuki Mixed Nuts]

Supporting mass surveillance because a progressive hates flock cameras is the republican equivalent of chugging Tylenol while pregnant because Trump said something bad about it.

While I agreeeeeeeeee, he was obviously saying that he hates icky brownos more than mass surveillance. It really wouldn't be about progressives or their opinions on anything.

I know I'm shouting into the void. I've been talking about this stuff for years

Damn, relatable. I feel that way about the horrific job market problem we are driving into in slow motion. Automate more jobs, both mundane (machinery) and creative/administrative (LLMs), and make every generation more illiterate and incapable of completing tasks, while also "requiring" debt to be taken on for the chance of a job that might pay off said debt in a decade. There are people in their 30s doing entry level work who can't find jobs in fields they studied in. Teens aren't able to get those entry level jobs because the market has filled them with people who will stay in those jobs, rather than be seasonal, or flakey like a teen would be. Less experience for young people, compounding with higher rates of social issues leading to further social retardation. More mental illness, more issues, less people wanting to work. Which also leads to people making less informed political choices, which leads to more issues, and only further causes the problem.


But nah Iran and jews and stuff man.

So is the Democrats """"new"""" strategy right now is to accuse male candidates they don’t like of being degens so they can replace them?

To be fair, you can point to a politician and claim they are a degen and you will 99% of the time be right. Claiming a democrat man is a sex pest is basically the same chance of being correct as saying a male feminist is a sex pest. That venn diagram is nearly a circle.

 

[Hatewerfer]

Ok so you can earn $200k a year to sit around at a data center good to know

Just because there's a lot of money going around to set up 1984 on steroids doesn't mean they'll actually pay the people any decent amount of money to run it. The old classic dystopian movies made it look a lot cooler with crazy tech like Minority Report and the Matrix, but in reality its a bunch of Indians head bobbling in a concrete box, supported by a bunch of other Indians working remotely from Calcutta.
Truth is the "deep state" are above all other things, incredibly cheap and greedy.

 

[David Floyd George]

WHY do you think we're building Data Centers right now? WHY do you think the government is in support of it? Where do you think your data is stored? Where do they generate your predicted behavior from it?

While I don't disagree with anything much of what you said, I'll nonetheless point out that you're shouting into the void. The surveillance state was inevitable and it isn't going away. That boat sailed a long, long time ago.

 

[Schpoots]

I don't really disagree with you that flock is fucked up. My TLDR is that these tools are useful right now and can be reigned in later.

Spoiler: Do not read if youre a flock camera

Getting rid of illegals is the only thing that matters to me because its a skeleton key that opens every other door. So anything that helps speed up the removal process is acceptable to me regardless of the consequences. Once illegals are gone the country is overwhelmingly red and privacy concerns caused by data harvesting can be dealt with. Focusing on anything else is a waste of time because all problems are downstream of democrats and their cheating via immigration. So I get what you're saying, but imo you're trying to have your cake and eat it too. It's crazy to me that our country is literally being invaded to break the very concept of democracy but people dont want the government to use certain tools because of muh rights. I don't give a shit about the consitution or whats legal right now because democrats broke the system and now these things only matter in theory. To care about the law in any capacity only plays into the hands of the people that have rigged said law with corrupt judges. From my point of view this should be a gloves off moment where nothing matters but solving the problem. Instead our only response is to fly the invaders home (at our expense) while also delicately preserving civilian rights and putting up with nonsense legal hurdles. It is insane.

So in opinion were not in a situation where we can afford to play nice, fair or legal. I want full Andrew Jackson mode.

 

[The Secret Sauce]

It's really rough that of all people Rogan, who sits there every day in a drugged out haze, gets to talk to these tops.

Democracy is all about convincing the majority of people that you're /theirguy/. The majority of people are retarded. Hence, the administration talks to Joe Rogan and treats him as though he has the mind of an adult. I don't like it, either.

 

[Hojicha]

kidnapped
Hardworking, smart students
Detroit

This is a congresswoman, I can't believe people like this are in our government. Idk if they'll take off as the new martyrs for Anti ICE but I can't wait to see what crimes these illegal girls have committed to laugh at later.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

And those are all obviously out there and might be a shadow of reality. MAD is absolutely a factor, totally all out counterforce+value against all populations and military targets.

Would that be ideal? Not at first. Just like after 9/11, we could and should've killed all islamics. We did, against what I'd have done, only convential.

Had to arrest and or kill all of the traitors in government first cause the democrats weren't going let Dubya nuke the islamics. And Dubya was a fucking bleeding heart to order the fed and state governments be purged by the military, law enforcement and the people.

 

[moocow]

Kennedy ultimately reduced the recommended schedule by removing vaccines for six of 17 diseases, though a federal judge later blocked the changes.

This is outrageous. How the fuck does a judge have the authority to override a medical/health policy decision made by medical experts through established procedures under existing, well-established authority?

3. A new way has come up: With the recent reveal that 100K degree's from India has turned out to be fake start suing for falsifying their degree to the H-1B system-

JFC this is brilliant. I'm tempted to tell them I'm game for it.

ETA:

China is it's own beast that the white man cannot assume they know. Frankly it's the same in every region (example being all the retards that opine about Israel) but china even more so.

China is trivial to understand and explain in White Man terms. They are selfish, xenophobic, racist, greedy, dogmatic, communist bugmen. They are stupid, incompetent, lazy, and untrustworthy. They have no "honor" and openly mock the concept. They're Jews with slanty eyes. The only people they fuck harder than foreigners are their underlings.

Their words are reliable and trustworthy: you can always trust they are lying. Their actions are as predictable as their inaction: "will this benefit me personally?" is the first question you must assume the chinaman is asking himself in considering any action. If the answer is "no," he will not do [the thing] no matter how much you want.

They are viciously racist and xenophobic -- in any interaction with a white man, they can be counted on to be trying to cheat you, steal from you, lie to you, and trick you into giving him something for nothing, or let him do something to you that benefits him and hurts you. They hate you, openly if possible, or quietly if paying lip service to you is to their benefit.

Assume they will break any promise they make to you, because they always do. Never do business with them if you have a choice, because they will try to cheat you at all times, nonstop, without exception. If you ever get the impression they're actually doing something honestly, it's because they've discovered a different way to cheat you and are doing so, using honesty in one element as a smokescreen for deception in another. There are whole books written on this subject. I recommend (Poorly) Made in China: An Insider's Account of the Tactics Behind China's Production Game by Paul Midler to get a better idea how these worthless bugmen operate with foreigners.

Flock is being used to help ICE shoot illegals so I dont care about them. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

They're a dogshit company engaged in shady shit to make money (so a standard American corporation, natch), but the best endorsement they could have ever wished for (in terms of demonstrating their products actually work) came when the dumbass hippies in Colorado decided to discontinue their use of Flock cameras because ICE was using the data (via subpoenas they couldn't fight or something) to find and deport illegals.

It's another issue entirely that a leftist government is so contaminated by seditionists it was willing to deliberately abandon a useful tool for broad, universal surveillance because it worked too well against its seditious goal of population replacement and enabled its enemies to fight back. Flock couldn't have staged a better advertisement if they'd tried.