Nolan's The Odyssey - Potentially could be epic or an epic flop.

Seriously, stay home and watch Wrath of the Titans instead of seeing this gay shit in IMAX. It's more fun and is half the runtime:
I get that, but got my tickets for later. I assume it'll be a fairly dry movie with some intense spots, and that's ok. I doubt it'll beat the original Clash of the Titans, but I have some sentimental stuff for the old Greek stuff, and yeah I get it'll be mostly just ok.
 
If we're talking about non-ancient adaptations, though, it doesn't get much more non-ancient than the classic cartoon Ulysses 31.
Was reminded again of the cartoon, which got me to thinking of other adaptions into different milieus, and made me think of a novel I had read years ago - a loose adaption of The Odyssey into a science fiction setting - the late David Drake's 1984 novel Cross the Stars based in his "Hammer's Slammers" setting, about the misadventures of a mercenary armored regiment centuries in the future - Captain Don "Mad Dog" Slade retires from the Slammers, deciding that it's time to return to his home of Tethys, 20 years after he left to become a merc and get away from the father who really had it in for him and the twin brother who was the favored one. The voyage home is dangerous, as he takes command of a tramp freighter crewed by cut-throats and outlaws, making stops at planets where they encounter various dangers, both human and alien, and when he gets back, he must protect the family business that's been held his widowed sister-in-law Marilee from a scheming old rival, leader of a competing oligarchical business clan, and his goons.

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Drake was read in the classics, and history, and tended to use them as inspiration - his later novel The Voyage is about Slade's nephew Edward leading what's the voyage of Jason and the Argonauts, in space, another Slammers novel Paying the Piper took inspiration from the Social War between the Hellenic League, lead by Macedonian king Phillip V, against the Aetolian League in the 3rd century BC,. as noted in the book specifically the 219 BC campaign that lead to the capture of the city of Psophis. One of his standalone novels, The Forlorn Hope was inspired by Xenophon's Anabasis , in a setting based on the Thirty Years War, a band of mercenaries on a planet embroiled in a long war go on a do-or-die escape march after their employers sell them out to their opponents as part of a surrender deal and they'd rather try to fight and escape than wait for execution.
 
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Elliot Page is laughable but she's playing a character who isn't Achilles so it's almost something you can put behind you once it's over.
Yes and no. Ellen Page isn't playing Achilles, but she has supplanted his role, described as "The greatest warrior and history" (which is normaly Achilles), and Odysseus is supposed to speak to Achilles in Hades, instead he speaks to Ellen.

Its Achilles in all but name.
 
I want to know what they're paying these reviewers to give this dogshit film a good review.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4EtIteqeySw
This man gave it his highest rating, and I'm just thinking, "Fucking why?"
Because he loses access if he defies the consensus. Also going to war with "insert director here" (Gunn, Snyder, Nolan, faggot) bros is all risk zero reward.

Maybe ive missed it but Jahns doesnt really give "bad" reviews either.
 
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I could care less about this shitshow of a movie and Cristopher Nolan is overrated
He's a hack. But now he's fully inside the hollywood machine. And will be endlessly protected and promoted no matter how bad his movies are. Strings of bombs and flops won't stop him anymore. Bad scripts? Awful casting? AI slop CGI? Throw tn on an IMAX screen and charge the nigger cattle $50 for slop. Lots of big name directors and actors have entire careers of bombs including some of the biggest names.
 
I'm waiting for trannies to be like "we're just like Sinon frfr' and liken the character being sacrificed to being genocided by the capitalist and white supremacist patriarchy.
 
Yes and no. Ellen Page isn't playing Achilles, but she has supplanted his role, described as "The greatest warrior and history" (which is normaly Achilles), and Odysseus is supposed to speak to Achilles in Hades, instead he speaks to Ellen.

Its Achilles in all but name.

It's like when Marvel tries to claim they didn't cast Zedayya as MJ in Spider-Mam because she is "Machiel Jones" and not "Mary Jane", when she is playing Peter Parker's girlfriend that he calls MJ.

They are getting people to pay for their woke propagana in a why that they get to attack anyone who calls it out as woke.

If you pay to see this and thus help fund it you have lost alright to ever complain about any political policy the wokesters push through.
 
JLongbOne is going through a cam copy of this on twitter right now and ripping its armmeat balls off.
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Apparently that one Jason Stathem-lookalike guy (Andrew Howard, the Russian mobster in 'Limitless') is in this. I had no idea. I should've guessed, he was in Tenet as well.
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Oh, boo, they're taking her posts down for copyright. Turds. Anyway, I got a screenshot, Punisher is showing Spider-Man that he cut Felon of Detroit's face and makes a joke about it launching 500 ships.
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Deconstruction is a magical word that you can just say and no one gets to call you an idiot when you disappoint them. Same with satire.
Same with "subversion", which I've also seen used for this film in some of the reviews.

Greece, I looked it up, has one. Which will make it rather easy for Greek people angry about this movie to focus on it should they choose.
Hilariously, some rando Nolan shill on twitter was arguing with me yesterday about how the film was even "selling out IMAX tickets in Greece" as proof the Greeks actually loved the film and everyone was just lying about the film insulting the Greeks. He had no idea there's only one screen in Greece.

I actually find a lot of the Nolan shills seem to think IMAX is a huge deal and everyone has a screen nearby. I can't tell if they're just idiots or if most of the shills are bots sent out by the studio to carry water for the film. I've definitely encountered a few studio bots, almost identical to what I saw when Superman was out last year.

That's why, aside from Helen who was the one "taken", the suitors are likely not black.
One of the main suitors is played by a Latino actor descended from a conquistador who whines constantly about how Latinos are being held down by Europeans.
The book by Emily Wilson the movie is based on (IIRC) uses art made in Minoan Crete for the cover illustration. Odd as Minoan Crete predates Ancient Greece by centuries. 🤔
It's worse than that, the artwork isn't even real. It's one of the most infamously forged Minoan artworks. minoan art ladies in blue.jpg
(if you didn't know, almost all of Minoan art is fake or heavily modified by the father-son team the chief archeologist used to rebuild broken frescoes and statuary to then sell to raise cash for the digs. Same team was also at Troy, which is also probably largely forgeries)
 
Elliot Page is Sinon and Odysseus meets her in Hades instead of Achilles
What the actual fuck. This actually pisses me off. The whole point of meeting the ghost of Achilles—the greatest fucking warrior who ever lived—is to demonstrate that it doesn't matter how great your valiant death was because in the end you're still fucking dead. It's an internal questioning of the Homeric idea of the hero from the Iliad—making the reader question what the point of all that was if even Achilles would rather be alive and a slave than a king and dead.

Instead they put a character from the fucking Aeneid there that shows up for one scene of importance—not even in Homer's actual works—just to throw a pooner in our faces. Nolan has no clue about the material he's actually working with. He just missed the entire point. What a joke.
 
He's a hack. But now he's fully inside the hollywood machine. And will be endlessly protected and promoted no matter how bad his movies are. Strings of bombs and flops won't stop him anymore. Bad scripts? Awful casting? AI slop CGI? Throw tn on an IMAX screen and charge the nigger cattle $50 for slop. Lots of big name directors and actors have entire careers of bombs including some of the biggest names.
I never hear anyone bring it up (Nerdrotic, et al types seem unaware) when people are asking what happened to Nolan, why he's going woke suddenly in this when he was usually fairly unpolitical in his other films, etc.

But about 9 months ago Nolan became President of the Directors Guild of America, and is a huge factor in pushing back against AI adoption in the studios and he's part of some huge contract renegotiation going on right now with tv and film producers (I forget the acronym for that producer group).

The DGA has like 19,500 members, so it's huge and Nolan is basically President of Hollywood now, and I think the only DGA President to be actively making films. They're usually retired.

I have to think his suddenly DEI casting and subversive modern dialogue in a period piece, as well as his much more active marketing (I don't recall him doing lots of these interviews for other films), is probably a factor of becoming DGA President. Either he's been forced to do this to get their support last year or he feels powerful enough to just stop even pretending to be apolitical.

Instead they put a character from the fucking Aeneid there that shows up for one scene of importance—not even in Homer's actual works—just to throw a pooner in our faces. Nolan has no clue about the material he's actually working with. He just missed the entire point. What a joke.
She's also in the first scene, the Sinon role, so at least two major scenes of importance.
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And I think Chris Gore was saying today that Odysseus is mentioning her throughout, how she was the greatest warrior he ever knew, and maybe that she's shown in flashbacks. He's not really being very clear, I assume because there's some sort of full review embargo still out for a few days.

Anyway, the horse looks like ass. I like nitpicking films, and I've held back on this one. But the horse, not any good. Looks terrible. That's not the horse you build from scrap lumber and broken ships when you're in a hurry to retreat back home after losing a siege.
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She's also in the first scene, the Sinon role, so at least two major scenes of importance.
I meant the original character is only in one scene that I can recall from Homer and Vergil. Never appears in any of the greater Homeric Cycle works I've read or come across (the Greek and Latin tragedies, elegies like Catullus 64, etc.).
 
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