Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox Discussion

And almost clicked out the moment he said that "Sussie and Noelle is one of the best written confession scenes I have had the privilege to read" showed me how much of a mental midget the average Deltarune fan is. This is a faggot that is supposedly publishing a book which makes me think he has some sort of education oriented into that.
This only furthers the (implicit) point from the Downhill critique that the average professional writer is a nigger who can't write.
The video insinuates that the issues with Chapter 5's writing were caused by the team bringing on writers that Toby was unable to properly manage, which makes sense. The thing is, UT/DR is an incredibly prestigious IP to write for, so Fangamer/8-4/Whichever publisher is currently tardwrangling Toby should not at all have been starved for choice when looking for proven, experienced writers. Even if Toby himself was inexperienced with management, you'd think the people he hired would at least be able to leverage their own experience in the field to put out something passable.
Toby had the absolute pick of the litter in terms of writers and the best they were able to put together was Deltarune Chapter 5. What that tells me is that the majority of professional writers are total niggermonkey frauds who should not be employed as writers. I imagine it's similar to voice acting where the entire industry is rotten and has been unable to produce high-quality work for the past decade, but it's kept afloat out of nepotism and sheer necessity. Toby himself is a faggot too for allowing this, don't get me wrong, but it's undeniable that the writing quality in Deltarune was much higher before "professional" writers got involved.
 
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Imagine falling for Toby's vagueposting.
Again.
I feel like this FRIEND vagueposting isn't even related to the Deltarune plot and Toby thinks its just fun extra content
imo, the playerbase feels entitled to some crazy plot twists regarding the crystals and eggs
most probably we'll just get:
Get every egg for secret boss number 6
Get every shadow crystal for secret boss number 7
And thats would be it
I don't think it would even make much sense to force a full secret boss playthrough for a true ending or something similar, but an extra hard last secret boss would be appropriate
 
having to look outside the medium for any sort of lore for the actual game is gay in practice even if it looks cool on paper.
Dude I fucking HATE how lore in media now is basically just "no dude you don't get it, you have to find this extremely obscure fact that Glup Shitto likes green eggs and ham from this NOW DELETED TWEET from its creator on the Wayback Machine, or dig through a 17 hour livestream they did for charity where they namedropped who killed Glup Shitto's mother! This is super duper important and totally justifies the dogshit writing of what I like u guys, TRUST!!!!!!"
Any creator that pulls this shit should be shot and theoristfags can follow suit after their loregoonsesh knowing they wasted this much time searching for Shit Nobaldi Cares About.
 
This is why I dislike Deltarune's "Chapter" format because this kinda shit doesn't stay fresh in peoples' minds and they need to be reminded every 2 years that "oooooh something BIG'S gonna happen, just wait guys"!
Considering we see a computer at the end of Chapter 5 Side B, I hope that they'll actually let us browse the ARG shit in game without needing a real internet connection, having to look outside the medium for any sort of lore for the actual game is gay in practice even if it looks cool on paper.
ARG shit can be cool as long as the creator has the courtesy to organize the ARG shit in some way for later viewing when the events are over and sites die or get neglected. If I have to thumb through a wiki just to put the basic plot together in a way that's remotely coherent, something isn't right.
 
You know the way the guy who made Evangelion despises it's fanbase? Do you think Toby's going to become like him?
It is more likely he is going to become like his sensei, Andrew Hussie, at this point. Early on Hussie showed signs of resentment towards Homestuck fan faggotry, but inevitably he capitulated to them and his faggot series became somehow even more faggoty.
 
I 100% believe this new lore was added in reaction to feedback that the chapter didn't move the story forward any and the secret boss was a nothing burger disconnected from the story completely. I think toby decided it would be fine revealing now that there are multiple friends and they're hunters, especially for eggs. I think Toby never intended for mew mew to be this important and changed the story because of that feedback.
Wait, what change was made?
 
This isn't really relevant to anything, but I've always kind of thought the shading around Susie's eyes on most of her maps sprites makes it look like she has bags under her eyes, like she's constantly doped out from a lack of sleep. Not sure if it's intentional since I just found out her sprite was edited to make the shading less extreme between chapters 1 and 2, that might be part of why I thought of her like that, but I still think her later sprites still have that look to a lesser extent.
I'm only wanting to bring this up to someone because I just recently came to the realization that I've never really seen anyone draw her like that in fan art, despite me always imagining her like that.
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I never expected Toby to actually admit that this chapter was doo doo diarrhea bullshit.
Fucking lol.
Goddamn, this damn thread has something new every day. This sudden patch was surprising, hilarious and sad for the above reasons.

but do you really think he would just go with the same gimmick twice?
Yes? He's no longer the Toby that began the game nearly 10 years ago, and now he's pressured by a group of troons that will sabotage him from time to time, even if unintentionally, cuz that's the nature of Evil.

The video insinuates that the issues with Chapter 5's writing were caused by the team bringing on writers that Toby was unable to properly manage, which makes sense. The thing is, UT/DR is an incredibly prestigious IP to write for, so Fangamer/8-4/Whichever publisher is currently tardwrangling Toby should not at all have been starved for choice when looking for proven, experienced writers
Perhaps the writing will go back to normal by Chapter 6? Hahaha, nope. Chapter 5 had Sus randomly going into a weird, long, pointless rant that was so pointless, that she even broke the 4th wall by warning you she was going to start ranting. Something normal people don't do.

Even if Toby himself was inexperienced with management, you'd think the people he hired would at least be able to leverage their own experience in the field to put out something passable.
Not possible with tranoids. You try raising your voice a little, you're immediately called 'ist', cancelled, and at worst suffer a murder attempt.

By the way, in previous Chapters, you could fight and defeat many of the bosses by beating them to 0 HP. Some secret bosses gave you an alternate item for doing so.
Not the case for the troon squad, who in most cases can't be damaged lest you harm the uber-protected minority.
That reminds me: The turtle from Chapter 4 was a regular boss that was remade into a secret one at the last second. If you don't fight him, Geston still shows up later on anyway, which makes the whole thing feel a bit odd.

That blog that someone posted criticizing Toby's choices would have a field day with Chapter 5.
 
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