Nolan's The Odyssey - Potentially could be epic or an epic flop.

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It was a story written by someone who thought they were really smart and tried to do a time travel plot with an "in reverse" hunt for a literal Mcguffin, the villain is far off into the future when civilization is wrecked by shit that doesn't matter, and needs physical device called the Algorithm for reasons that don't matter because the future version of the Protag has already won before anything has occured, and the events of the story are essentially the "ending" to this time traveling feud, at the end when they split up the devise, that is the literal checkmate, but now the Protag has to work backwards (what is chronologically forward) to insure the events play out the same, which they will, because everything is deterministic, and everyone knows it.

which is why its retarded, nothing in the past can be changed, time travel doesn't matter because its all deterministic, the villain would know this, and since he doesn't have the Mcguffin at the start of his hunt for it (since its in the past) he will never get it, but the writers are too retarded to factor this OBVIOUS FUCKING POINT IN.

Okay, I think that last point is what was throwing me off because I kept trying to understand the plot from the point of view of why the villain was doing what he was doing, now that I see it is all nonsense it makes more sense. So to speak.
 
I am still surprised that Nolan chose The Odyssey as the poem to adapt. The Iliad had warrior women and blacks in it. Wouldn't that be better to bring to screen if you want a woke adaptation without having fans complain?
He should have instead go for a futuristic adaptation of the Odyssey and that would have made more sense.

Ulysses 31, basically.
 
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Those are popular in the Caribbean, I think. I've seen Colombian and Venezuelans drink that.

I tried it once and I still have nightmares.
You guys talking about these?

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How does these help an alcoholic? They taste nothing like beer.
 
I am still surprised that Nolan chose The Odyssey as the poem to adapt. The Iliad had warrior women and blacks in it. Wouldn't that be better to bring to screen if you want a woke adaptation without having fans complain?
Maybe he didn't want a comparison to Brana's and Pitt's Troy movie.

Which was pretty solid all round movie that did well at the box office and got good reviews.

I mean, I liked Troy. Aside from Agamemnon being a bit too much of a cartoon style villain I thoight it was rather well done.

Also just because its a Christopher Nolan movie doesn't automatically mean box office success. Tenet bombed pretty hard after all. His built in audience isn't that large really. The movie still needs to appeal to the masses to get people in those seats.
 
Maybe he didn't want a comparison to Brana's and Pitt's Troy movie.

Which was pretty solid all round movie that did well at the box office and got good reviews.

I mean, I liked Troy. Aside from Agamemnon being a bit too much of a cartoon style villain I thoight it was rather well done.

Also just because its a Christopher Nolan movie doesn't automatically mean box office success. Tenet bombed pretty hard after all. His built in audience isn't that large really. The movie still needs to appeal to the masses to get people in those seats.
That doesn't make any sense. It has been decades since then. Making a diverse version of the Iliad is still far more sensible. Not to mention it is a more realistic story.
 
It's been 22 years, but people still remember it well. It's become a bit of a classic.
True but it wasn't all that faithful to the source material. They could go that route. And, again, it was more realistic apart from the occasional god or the kaiju battle. In the Odyssey, there were monsters, gods, witches etc etc. Also, most people like the old miniseries of the Odyssey as well.
 
I am still surprised that Nolan chose The Odyssey as the poem to adapt. The Iliad had warrior women and blacks in it. Wouldn't that be better to bring to screen if you want a woke adaptation without having fans complain?
He was supposed to direct Troy originally, but got put on Batman Begins instead. I suspect "The Odyssey" is going to be at least partially retreading the Iliad to show what his version of "Troy" would've been like.
 
He was supposed to direct Troy originally, but got put on Batman Begins instead. I suspect "The Odyssey" is going to be at least partially retreading the Iliad to show what his version of "Troy" would've been like.
Still, that doesn't explain shit. He should have tried again with the Iliad. He could fill it with both Africans and warrior women. He took a work that doesn't fit his sensibilities and tries to make an elephant pass through a keyhole.
 
I am still surprised that Nolan chose The Odyssey as the poem to adapt. The Iliad had warrior women and blacks in it. Wouldn't that be better to bring to screen if you want a woke adaptation without having fans complain?
Hollywood gets hard everytime they get the chance to shit on something, why be accurate adapting something when they can shit all over it and call the people who complain racists and bigots?
 
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