The Shin Megami Tensei/Persona Thread

But that probably won't happen. Audiences are always infantalized, and they buy it up.
Yeah, ultimately the reality is there really isn't an appetite for good writing, just something with the veneer of good writing.

As for the second ask, we have Earthbound.
True, but Earthbound was made back before formulas were as calcified as they are today. I would say that if you are 30 years old and have played enough games since the SNES era you have basically seen it all, just with the aesthetic suit switched out. That's what I am driving at.
 
I was hoping for 6 to really break through the neverending high school tropes since it's been done to Hell and back, starting at SMT IF.
IIRC, the entire reason the Persona series exists because SMT IF'S high school setting sold really well. No way they'll ever do a Persona game with adults.
P2:EP only had adult characters because they were returning characters from the previous games, but a few years older.
 
M:R is probably my favourite Persona. It does flub the ending a bit, but whatever.

Speaking off, i didin't like that the fantasy world is actually the real world 1000 years after the apocalypse. It just felt very lazy just to subvert our expectations.
But that did let it be a stealth Etrian Odyssey sequel which was the best part of the game. I'm really glad I didn't get spoiled on that.
 
IIRC, the entire reason the Persona series exists because SMT IF'S high school setting sold really well. No way they'll ever do a Persona game with adults.
P2:EP only had adult characters because they were returning characters from the previous games, but a few years older.
It's beyond time for a new SMT spinoff. Or a persona spinoff. You'd think this would happen after 4 but whatever sells. Fatlus....

Now I'm just curious on the overall theme of Persona 6, since we know it's green. From an older anniversary image they shared. Funny how they'll do art for all games but won't fucking make proper ports of the PS1 titles with all the music intact unlike their shitty psp demasters.
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In those cases im always worring about future games. I dont know if atlus is self aware that they wrote pile of shit for a quick buck or other "testing" or that they are actually believing those retards who praise this game for plot. Cuz if they truly believe that metaphor is second comming of jesus we are all doomed.

It low key makes me wanna check Persona phantom X just to see how they handled writing in cash grab gacha game.
I'll be honest Atlus has been on the woke path for a while now. They changed up social links in p3r and whole scenes for modern audiences. Even the original P5 had woke elements. Sae Nijima's whole story is about how she is never taken seriously in her profession cuz she is a woman. P4 had Naoto and Ryujii which is why many people myself included prefer the older Persona games along with mainline. Even the Catherine remake had a troon.
 
bro forgot one of the endings to the og catherine had it in there too
Most people went for Katherine or Catherine. We could also make an argument that the diner person I believe was trans too. The main difference is that unlike the forced 3rd romance option the remake gave the diner person never made it their personality and was a side character. My point still stands that Atlus has been pushing social justice stuff to varying degrees ever since neo-persona became a thing. Metaphor is just the most extreme example out of all of them.
 
There is absolutely no way in fuck Naota's "I will never be a man I will always be a woman because I was born a woman" speech will be in P4R.

I'm not sure how they'll censor it because it's the most pivotal moment in her social link but it violates too much of current year gender politics to stand.

Other stuff will probably be censored or cut too like Rise's bikini scenes or the boys trying to peep on the girl's hot spring during the school trip but I am 100% positive Naota's social link will be butchered.
 
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There is absolutely no way in fuck Naota's "I will never be a man I will always be a woman because I was born a woman" speech will be in P4R.

I'm not sure how they'll censor it because it's the most pivotal moment in her social link but it violates too much of current year gender politics to stand.

Other stuff will probably be censored or cut too like Rise's bikini scenes or the boys trying to peep on the girl's hot spring during the school trip but I am 100% positive Naota's social link will be butchered.
There is no way they can let it stand. The dub/translation is gonna fuck it hard. It's probably gonna find a way to ease into it like "I am content with the persona (AH GET IT ACK ACK ACK) I've made and am comfortable with my body. To present as a man is enough." and it's gonna be so preachy and obviously hacked together to defy the original messaging.

Edit: and for good measure you're gonna preach to Nanako that Junes sucks and to not be a consumerist sheep and tell her, an innocent child, that communism is the answer.
 
You know what is definitely getting cut from Naoto's social link? Yu's "problematic" language during her romance route and her changing into a girls uniform if Yu tells her she should stop speaking so low during Rank 10 of said romance route, there's already mods changing those lines. Can't be having a tomboy nonbinary trans icon be too feminine and wanting to appeal to her man. Also the joke about her chest in the hospital, I'd be surprised if that stayed in.
 
Found a video over a pretty unknown SMT game (at least by searching it on YouTube and seeing no one else did a retrospective on it). The guy doing it is a faggot, but does good enough description of what happens in the game. Seemingly no one talks about it because it was too sexually explicit.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jOOoQxEOigM
It's because it's only been recently partially translated, and like most PC-98 games, the 2D sprites are great.
 
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