Trump Enslavement Syndrome - Orange man good. /r/The_Donald and any public demonstration of rabid pro-Trump enthusiasm in spite of all reason.

Anyone who knows history can look to the Franklin Credit Union/Boystown scandal where top officials in Washington were trafficked underaged orphans to rape and the abuse victims who did speak up were the only ones who did jail time. It's kinda like victims were gagged by courts, plus where told they'd either end up in prison or dead if they spoke out.

It never fails to amaze me how the world's richest nonce is such a fucking retard. To try and deflect from his own misdeeds he makes up autism bullshit to make the people who are likely to accuse him the villains.
I don't know shit about Ilhan beyond what annoying people on both sides of the political divide have said (either trashing or glazing). But the Aussie in me respects the shit talk here and the fact she was ready to square off and throw hands with the migger who sprayed her with something.


Say what you want about her, Bill Gates took his pie in the face like a bitch, Ilhan took her being squirted with shit like a man. Take the politics and race out of the equation you gotta respect someone willing to punch on over someone who shrinks and takes it.


Degenerates like them belong on a cross.
Hard disagree. A bullet is cheap and a noose is reusable. I'll give my 2 reasons:
1. I'm not like these fuckers. I don't take pleasure in the suffering of others. Doing that makes me kinda like them and that thought repulses me.
2. They're not worth the effort. Let them die common without fanfare and scatter the ashes somewhere unknown with no marker or headstone for remembrance. Once that person is dead that problem is solved, wash your hands, clean up, leave them without a legacy and move onto the next.

Put them down, put the shit they did behind us, and move onto something better having gotten wiser from the experience. This is one rare example where we can literally bury our problems, waste no more effort on it than we have to.
 
Put them down, put the shit they did behind us, and move onto something better having gotten wiser from the experience. This is one rare example where we can literally bury our problems, waste no more effort on it than we have to.
Fuck no. That's way too swift and way too merciful. You need to show the world that shit like this is not OK. If all they'll get is a quick drop and a short stop, nobody will be discouraged. Worst comes to worst, all their suffering is ended. It's like school shooters; most potential school shooters aren't dissuaded in the least because they can self-delete before they suffer the consequences of their actions.
 
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This is the most insane and unbelievable shit I've ever seen.
This fucking retarded migger who is fine with his daughter being raped by a fat nonce had a Glock, he pulled the weapon out, somehow engaged the trigger safety lock to unload a bullet into his daughter's chest. That bullet killed her.

How did the gun trigger without him depressing the safety latch first and then pulling it? It then just happened to kill his daughter that he'd be fine with if Donald Trump raped. Does anyone believe this shit?
Somehow a Texan grand jury does.
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Fuck no. That's way too swift and way too merciful. You need to show the world that shit like this is not OK. If all they'll get is a quick drop and a short stop, nobody will be discouraged. Worst comes to worst, all their suffering is ended. It's like school shooters; most potential school shooters aren't dissuaded in the least because they can self-delete before they suffer the consequences of their actions.
Problem is you're viewing them as human, deserving of punishment. I view them as a problem, solved quickly, filed away and then forgotten.

My streak of good old Machiavellian pragmatism is also coming to the fore here. I'll ask a few questions:
-Why give a monster a potential matyr's death?
-Why nail devils to die on a symbol you worship?
-Why assign a human emotion (anger and revenge) instead of just revoking their humanity card and treat them the same way we do a pitbull who mauled a toddler?

Whether you like it or not, there are people who actually like, agree and support the actions taken by the likes of Epstein and Maxwell. People who worship wealth and the power to do whatever they want without consequence. A cruel death creates a potential matyr, something that those who hold such world views can spin into a tale of you being the villain and the person you're punishing being unjustly tortured and murdered. You're giving them a story, a legacy, even if you don't intend to, you're giving their death meaning.

These people want power, they want to stand above everyone else, they want to be seen as special (and giving a "matyr's death" does this). A bullet or noose has no real meaning, it is a common person's execution. Treating them as nothing more than a dog to be put down robs them of the legitimacy they've sort, and it doesn't provide ammunition for people who support and sympathize with these monsters (for example a 40 year old man child who grooms teenagers and dresses like he is in the 80s) to make you the villain and the nonce a "poor unfortunate soul and Randian superman unjustly murdered by the despicable untermensch". Do them quick, burn them quick and dump the ashes into landfill. Descecrate what they worked for and sort, give them no meaning nor headstone and write a clinical obituary stating what they were. Don't give them what the Saints had to endure, or else you risk malefactors being able to make the comparison.
 
This fucking retarded migger who is fine with his daughter being raped by a fat nonce had a Glock, he pulled the weapon out, somehow engaged the trigger safety lock to unload a bullet into his daughter's chest. That bullet killed her.

How did the gun trigger without him depressing the safety latch first and then pulling it? It then just happened to kill his daughter that he'd be fine with if Donald Trump raped. Does anyone believe this shit?
Somehow a Texan grand jury does.
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He claimed he wanted to show her his gun. Why?
 
Bring back torture chambers. Boil them in oil like they did in the Tudors era.
Too expensive. Just go to Home Depot, grab some 2x4s, some nails, and a nailgun. Or a hammer.

Problem is you're viewing them as human, deserving of punishment. I view them as a problem, solved quickly, filed away and then forgotten.
The problem is, they are a human problem. If you don't set an example, they will do it again.
 
The problem is, they are a human problem. If you don't set an example, they will do it again.
If they're dead they wont do it again.

I agree with Metokur on one thing. The narrative around Columbine about the two shooters being "edgy unfortunate souls" who were bullied and corrupted by videogames and heavy metal music provided an image losers sort to recreate. If instead they just painted them as fucking losers and dorks we wouldn't have a Couch Cuck or Lindsay Souvannarath.

Don't give shit more meaning if it has a chance to legitimize and justify similar behavior in the future.
 
Others might. School shooters kill themselves all the time; that doesn't stop future school shooters.
Main motivation for school shooting is attention, even if it's posthumous.If the attention was "This person is a complete faggot lol" instead of "troubled and evil soul who we cant understand" there would be less school shooters.

People care more about how they're perceived than they do most other things. It is why mockery is so effective.

Your suggestion of humiliating, torturing and crucifying those on the Epstein list draws a cultural comparison you don't want, and one which those who want to do the same types of things will use against you (and society) in the future.

I mean how many times has the holocaust and anti-semitism has been used to shut down scrutiny into Epstein and other misdeeds in the last few years? Why potentially give others the potential for that type of spin for the future?
 
Your suggestion of humiliating, torturing and crucifying those on the Epstein list draws a cultural comparison you don't want, and one which those who want to do the same types of things will use against you (and society) in the future.
Who's to say they're not doing it already? They certainly humiliated and tortured that girl anyways. She spoke about her faith in Christ, so they had someone dress up as Christ to rape and murder her. How many more have they done that to?
 
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These people want power, they want to stand above everyone else, they want to be seen as special (and giving a "matyr's death" does this). A bullet or noose has no real meaning, it is a common person's execution. Treating them as nothing more than a dog to be put down robs them of the legitimacy they've sort, and it doesn't provide ammunition for people who support and sympathize with these monsters (for example a 40 year old man child who grooms teenagers and dresses like he is in the 80s) to make you the villain and the nonce a "poor unfortunate soul and Randian superman unjustly murdered by the despicable untermensch". Do them quick, burn them quick and dump the ashes into landfill. Descecrate what they worked for and sort, give them no meaning nor headstone and write a clinical obituary stating what they were. Don't give them what the Saints had to endure, or else you risk malefactors being able to make the comparison.
It depends on the crime. If someone commits a crime that is more banal, or a crime against national security where they should just be silently disappeared, then private executions make sense. But sensible legal systems allow for different handling of those who particularly offend against public morals, to recognize righteous public anger and dissuade similarly minded offenders.
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It depends on the crime. If someone commits a crime that is more banal, or a crime against national security where they should just be silently disappeared, then private executions make sense. But sensible legal systems allow for different handling of those who particularly offend against public morals, to recognize righteous public anger and dissuade similarly minded offenders.
Shoot them in public. Then burn them and dump them in landfill.

Don't get me wrong, I am pissed off about this. I guess we differ in what we seek in retribution.

You're seeking pain as retribution, I am seeking desecration and delegitimization of both their legacy and humanity as retribution whilst drawing a clear line between me and them (to the point they don't even get a monument or a headstone).

I am not seeking to be kind or humane here. These people view themselves as being above humanity, so put them below humanity and treat them as we would a stray animal. Put them down, burn them and dump the ashes into landfill.
 
They stopped saying that when Trump was accused of being on the Epstein files by Elon Musk. Now they're defending Elon and attacking age of consent laws.
is that really what they're doing in USPG2 now? fucking hell.
I don't know shit about Ilhan beyond what annoying people on both sides of the political divide have said (either trashing or glazing). But the Aussie in me respects the shit talk here and the fact she was ready to square off and throw hands with the migger who sprayed her with something.
maybe its because i'm younger and had muslim classmates my entire life, but she really seems as american as any other person growing up in that area. i'd expect any white woman growing up nowadays to be good at talking shit and ready to fight some faggot who sprays her. thats really the joke about these "all-american" miggers, they have such a bizarre picture of how an american looks and acts, its like they only learned about america from 1900s sitcoms. the way miggers react to a lot of these somalians shows they never really interact with people under 25 or immigrant whatsoever.
I agree with Metokur on one thing. The narrative around Columbine about the two shooters being "edgy unfortunate souls" who were bullied and corrupted by videogames and heavy metal music provided an image losers sort to recreate. If instead they just painted them as fucking losers and dorks we wouldn't have a Couch Cuck or Lindsay Souvannarath.
Columbine was like a white version of Michael Brown or Trayvon Martin or George Floyd, the facts don't support the causes whatsoever but people can sympathize a lot with shitheads for whatever reason. people immediately sympathized with the shooters within seconds of hearing about the crime and it leading to anti-bullying initiatives probably did help avoid more attacks. i had a professor call it the straight version of Matthew Shepard, he wasn't the unfortunate soul he was painted as but the laws passed in response definitely helped the ones that were.

Also bullying school shooters clearly doesn't work either considering the last decade of trans shooters and how they're treated by the internet and media at large.
 
Also bullying school shooters clearly doesn't work either considering the last decade of trans shooters and how they're treated by the internet and media at large.
I wasn't talking about in-person bullying. I'm talking about how someone is portrayed posthumously. It's the attention you put on the perpetrator after the fact, not what you think a perpetrator is going to be beforehand.

There is, and has always been, a need for recognition and attention from people. Crazy as it may seem, people are willing to die in order to get it. Case in point the Björk Stalker, the face paint, the video, the suicide; the motivation was pretty clear, he wanted not just Björk's attention, he wanted as much attention as possible so his death became a performance, he wanted to be found dead after he killed Björk with a bomb (he failed). He wanted attention and fame (albeit infamy) he felt he couldn't get through other means. An extreme act of attention whoring by someone with severe inadequacies.

I am not saying it is sane, but certain types of people will go to great lengths for attention, especially if they have flaws, resentments, and that general feeling they're not getting what they feel they deserve. Nearly every single one of these types of people has a fucking banal manifesto they think is important that people "need to hear", the behavior of people like that has always been about attention.

Yet despite this, there is one type of attention nobody wants, which is being laughed at, being made a pariah by becoming a laughingstock. People break themselves trying not to have it (look at Rekeita, Ralph and Idubbz, we are a lolcow site after all, so I'll use them as examples). Not being the focus of that attention, even posthumously, would be IMO a pretty big deterrent for those willing to kill others for infamy's sake. People want attention that takes them seriously (even if it is hate or fear); they don't want attention that paints them as a fool, even after they're dead.

I will keep it thread relevant, look at fatty. Most powerful man in the world and the maddest he gets is when he is either ignored or made fun of. Just look at his hatred of comedians (even mediocre ones), given all the shit in the world the president of the USA should be concerned about and he spends way too much energy on Jimmy fucking Kimmel. Fucked up people fear that type of attention.
 
I suppose that is a start.
I say bring back gibbeting. Hang those fuckers from every lamppost you can find and watch them slowly waste away.
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Also bullying school shooters clearly doesn't work either considering the last decade of trans shooters and how they're treated by the internet and media at large.
All the bullying does is reinforce the fact ,in their minds, they are the victims and their actions are justified. It just makes them hate the world even more
 
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