Debate TES regulars about why the site's userbase had a political shift

[JaneThough]

Solution, have a TES adjunct janny.

I’ll janny A&H. I’ll straighten their shit out.

 

[Retrodogkiller]

>Y-Y-YOURE A BROWN SHITSKIN MUTT
It must really hurt you inside knowing that there are white men on here that don't believe in your suicidal death cult leftists beliefs.

Post genetic test result. Bet you're even less white than Nick Fuentes. Also you were a fag and cried about how it was against board culture to wish death on a cow. Even though it never was.

 

[Montalbane]

Oooo we have a tranny detector in our midst? What are your qualifications?

I know the difference between penises and vaginas.
I can hand over my cert if you want.

Also lol calm down

 

[Wax]

Not a leftist.
Try again, Sunjeet.

>I have leftist beliefs and I cry all day about right wingers but I'm actually not a leftist. Checkmate umm.. *checks insult list hoping one actually applies* ... JEET

 

[spaztocate9000]

Society is rejecting woke, it isn't a kiwifarms culture specific thing.

 

[JaneThough]

Post genetic test result. Bet you're even less white than Nick Fuentes. Also you were a fag and cried about how it was against board culture to wish death on a cow. Even though it never was.

Which cow?

I know the difference between penises and vaginas.
I can hand over my cert if you want.

Also lol calm down

X to doubt

Society is rejecting woke, it isn't a kiwifarms culture specific thing.

I think I trust your judgement here. You seem well familiar with rejection.

 

[Sayer of the N-Word]

you're asking me to blindly ban half the site. that's retarded.

Yeah, but it would be hilarious.

Like it or not this makes the threads unreadable and ruins the experience for everyone.

I've recommended KF to a few people, and each of them said that it was the /pol/itical sperging in every thread, not the people talking shit about niggers and trannies, that makes the site unbearable.

Society is rejecting woke, it isn't a kiwifarms culture specific thing.

A cursory scan of A&N shows that rightoid wokeness is alive and well.

 

[Mister Fister]

Primarily, I wish for you to have a realistic view of the issue affecting the forum and what the origin of the disturbance is. I don't want A&N people to misrepresent things by fantasizing some explanation about why the people they don't like act the way they do. I believe my perspective represents the view of many people who don't post in A&N, even though some of the topics there interest them, and it goes some way towards explaining why the signal to noise ratio in Happenings-threads has gotten so bad, which IIRC you complained about at some point.

I think it would be nice if there was a way to have discussions about high profile politics or society related topics without those people effectively cancelling them through heckling. I don't mind them having their MAGA forum someplace, my issue is that this MAGA forum is the only politics/happenings discussion space on kiwifarms.
Ideally I would like to have a Happenings-subforum (I don't think there's a need for more than a general thread and a few individual threads for high profile events) for non-MAGA, and leave A&N as it is as a MAGA zone, either as a subforum here or spun off on its own URL, but I don't think the MAGA posters would respect such boundaries on their own accord, similar to how women-haters made a big fuss about there being a woman-only thread, and it sounds like there's already a shortage of moderation resources as is.

Even if there's nothing to be done, perhaps what I said will at some point be helpful for you figuring out some solution based on various factors, or at least help you understand where people are coming from when they make certain complaints. Most people simply quietly stop posting instead of describing issues, which is unhelpful for administrators.

TLDR; like all shitlibs, I can only support my views when everything else is censored.

 

[Retrodogkiller]

Which cow?

Do i even need to answer that?

 

[World in Scarlet]

I’ll janny A&H. I’ll straighten their shit out.

If lolcow forum rules were applied to A&N (no flaming, no repeatedly posting false information, no gayops, no flooding threads with low quality replies), 99.5% of MAGAposters would get banned and maybe 5% of non-MAGA posters would get banned.

Because of this, they would claim it is political persecution, even though none of these rules are about the content of the posts, only about the way you post.

 

[Wax]

It's always funny how leftiod ideas can only exist in a heavily moderated vacuum, lest they lose their collective minds in complete anger when they see a right wing opinion.

 

[AltisticRight]

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>I have leftist beliefs and I cry all day about right wingers but I'm actually not a leftist. Checkmate umm.. *checks insult list hoping one actually applies* ... JEET

Niggercattle.

Because of this, they would claim it is political prosecution

They already do. Each time a thread is thrown out and some janny has to mop it up, they'll bitch about it.
There are a few gender wars threads and dozens of political ones to whine about that tiring shit, feel free to use them.

 

[God of Nothing]

rightoid wokeness

lol
lmao

 

[Mister Fister]

It's always funny how leftiod ideas can only exist in a heavily moderated vacuum, lest they lose their collective minds in complete anger when they see a right wing opinion.

They lose their shit when you point out they are being 1984 in real time.

 

[Pissmaster]

Lefties be on their eleventh year of being mad at people they will never meet and still be all like "no, YOU'RE the one who's mentally deranged"

 

[Myron]

TLDR; like all shitlibs, I can only support my views when everything else is censored.

I think the real gist of the complaint is that there is a poor signal to noise ratio because posters can no longer resist trash talking at every opportunity which means the threads are practically spammed into oblivion. They are talking about it in terms left vs right politics since that is how it's manifesting but that is just motivating people itt to be combative.

 

[Übertroon]

Primarily, I wish for you to have a realistic view of the issue affecting the forum and what the origin of the disturbance is. I don't want A&N people to misrepresent things by fantasizing some explanation about why the people they don't like act the way they do. I believe my perspective represents the view of many people who don't post in A&N, even though some of the topics there interest them, and it goes some way towards explaining why the signal to noise ratio in Happenings-threads has gotten so bad, which IIRC you complained about at some point.

I think it would be nice if there was a way to have discussions about high profile politics or society related topics without those people effectively cancelling them through heckling. I don't mind them having their MAGA forum someplace, my issue is that this MAGA forum is the only politics/happenings discussion space on kiwifarms.
Ideally I would like to have a Happenings-subforum (I don't think there's a need for more than a general thread and a few individual threads for high profile events) for non-MAGA, and leave A&N as it is as a MAGA zone, either as a subforum here or spun off on its own URL, but I don't think the MAGA posters would respect such boundaries on their own accord, similar to how women-haters made a big fuss about there being a woman-only thread, and it sounds like there's already a shortage of moderation resources as is.

Even if there's nothing to be done, perhaps what I said will at some point be helpful for you figuring out some solution based on various factors, or at least help you understand where people are coming from when they make certain complaints. Most people simply quietly stop posting instead of describing issues, which is unhelpful for administrators.

So you want a safespace

 

[World in Scarlet]

So you want a safespace

I want a place for fact-based discussion, not a place where 100 retards copy paste what Trump said over and over, even if there's video footage that objectively proves that they're lying.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

I think what’s bugging me so much about this shooting and the A&N reaction is we have video from a thousand angles and they still stick to their opinion that this woman was aggressive

Except that's not true. We have footage of her hitting him with her car. You cannot hit any style of cop with your car and last time I checked that is a great way to get a bullet in you and nobody can complain. Look, it's real simple. You either saw that footage or you didn't, if you didn't, then you have your opinion stated above. If you did see it, and your opinion is still that this wasn't aggressive, then you're either A. Making an emotionally based judgement due to cognitive dissonance or B. Just dumb. There is such a thing as objective truth where there is no such thing as a dissenting opinion and this is one of those cases.

As far as politics go, why are politics even a part of the Lolcow threads anyway? Most cows are not political, or if they are then they have retarded political opinions.

 

[Harammurabe]

>Tfw the site survives a mass deplatform campaign only for users to want anyone on the site they disagree with deplatformed anyways due to ideological differences and stickers