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The old body is not thrown away. It is restored. This is why Christians should never be cremated. You don’t want to end up in heaven with ashy skin.
I personally wouldn't want to be cremated, as I consider it disrespectful because it's cheaping out on a proper burial, but this statement you made is not correct scripture. I would think in heaven our spirits leave our earthly bodies, and we become one with God, meaning we will become perfect or purified. By your logic, a blind person won't be able to see in heaven because their earthly body had that problem.
God, you niggers are still talking about Kirk? No one actually cares about the death of a random conservative grifter, do they?
Just waiting for the day that the obese orange pedophile that's currently in office dies.
That's a day for celebration, Not this cringe "Charlie Kirk Day" BS.
Charlie Kirk is still a relevant topic today regardless of what you think of his political views because of the way he was murdered. He was a massive influencer that was shot in broad daylight. When was the last time a massive political figure was successfully assassinated? JFK? MLK? When you exclude foreign assassinations like Jamal Khashoggi's death, you realize how rare political assassinations are. Then you combine that with the massive political firestorm, like Jimmy Kimmel getting fired because of his death, so yes, we still talk about Charlie Kirk.
 
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Perhaps they should not have relinquished so much authority to the executive branch if they didn't want the executive branch to use it. Schiff was there at the time, not sure about Kaine. I don't know if it's confirmation bias or what but the Democrats seem extremely short sighted.
They never considered they'd be ousted from power. They thought they'd be in charge forever thanks to rigged ballots and muh feelings, but we know how that ended up.
 
By this logic there's people walking around heaven without limbs, without heads, and mostly being old and wrinkled and possibly even shriveled up and blue.

Whether the "body" talked about in Corinthians and the like is a new brand new body, a reanimating of our current one, or a new one that looks exactly like our current one, it's absurd to think god's ability to give this to us is dependent on the state our body is in when or after we die. Is a righteous man who dies in a house fire going to be denied heaven? Is god just going to say "oh well I can totally do the whole eternal life thing but i can't bring back a body that has been cremated". He literally did this once already when he made Adam from dust.
The only thing I know about Corinthians is that they made some kickass leather for the Chrysler Cordoba.
 
By this logic there's people walking around heaven without limbs, without heads, and mostly being old and wrinkled and possibly even shriveled up and blue.

Whether the "body" talked about in Corinthians and the like is a new brand new body, a reanimating of our current one, or a new one that looks exactly like our current one, it's absurd to think god's ability to give this to us is dependent on the state our body is in when or after we die. Is a righteous man who dies in a house fire going to be denied heaven? Is god just going to say "oh well I can totally do the whole eternal life thing but i can't bring back a body that has been cremated". He literally did this once already when he made Adam from dust.
We know for sure that damage to the body remains after resurrection to some degree, for Jesus has holes in his hands and side. There are some icons where St. John the Baptist is shown holding a plate with his head, though a new head has been restored to him as well. We must not fear the possibilities of coming into the new earth with our damages, for we will have no reason to fear having them. For example, one born without eyes will be able to see in paradise, despite not having any eyes in the first place.
 
Adam Schiff, Tim Kaine Introduce Bill To Protect Caribbean Drug Traffickers From Trump Strikes
We're talking about Adam Schiff, realistically what reason would he have for being against something like what the Administration is doing with the strikes instead of Congressional approval given he loved Biden?
 
I’m not. Hasn’t Christianity always been on a downward slope? I thought the world is targeted to be all Muslim rape apes or blue five titty statue worshiping Hindus.
Can’t find the quote but an issue with modern mainstream Christianity is its morphing into a Buddhist-like nihilistic form, emphasizing detachment from this Earth since heaven will always supplant all things earthly.

Along with the secularization of government and society, this has resulted in a passive form of Christianity that’s hardly assertive, and in the worst cases, actively hostile to the defense of its flock.
 
Can’t find the quote but an issue with modern mainstream Christianity is its morphing into a Buddhist-like nihilistic form, emphasizing detachment from this Earth since heaven will always supplant all things earthly.

Along with the secularization of government and society, this has resulted in a passive form of Christianity that’s hardly assertive, and in the worst cases, actively hostile to the defense of its flock.
The Hippy Boomers who joined the clergy to dodge the Vietnam draft brought their Hippy Boomer love of Eastern Religion into the church. I call it the Cult of Nice, which is why their Jesus is basically a hippy guru and the worst thing you can be is mean to some one, which includes making them dress up for church and "being judgmental," which just works out to enforcing Christian standards and moral teaching. Keep in mind, Jesus was Kind, not nice, and was not adverse to being a bit of a dick, so long as there was a point to it or justification. He didn't come to give us a spirit of fear, or in modern terms, He didn't come to make us pussies. Stuff like mistranslating "Meek," Praus in Greek, contributes to that Cult of Nice. A term the Greeks used for warhorses is the furthest thing from mild and milquetoast.

That said, when it comes to cremation I just think about all the Christian sailors lost at sea who don't even have bones left behind. I'm pretty sure our Eternal Father has us covered, but we shouldn't be flippant about it. It may simply be a Romans 14 issue and best left as one.
 
By this logic there's people walking around …mostly being old and wrinkled and possibly even shriveled up …
With how some women age, that sounds good to me. That’s actually an interesting point. When you go to Heaven, are you your young self or whatever God would decide for you? Example: is Rita Hayworth in Heaven as young as Gilda or as old as she lived? Say I go to Heaven and see Rita Hayworth, would it be my interpretation of her in Heaven or her last life form?
 
That said, when it comes to cremation I just think about all the Christian sailors lost at sea who don't even have bones left behind. I'm pretty sure our Eternal Father has us covered, but we shouldn't be flippant about it. It may simply be a Romans 14 issue and best left as one.
I'd also heard that the original aversion to cremation was its relation to pagan religions that still existed. People getting incinerated today aren't doing it for Wotan, so the restrictions have lessened.
 
I'd also heard that the original aversion to cremation was its relation to pagan religions that still existed. People getting incinerated today aren't doing it for Wotan, so the restrictions have lessened.
I think most Christian authorities still want the cremains to be interred somewhere like a cemetery and not kept in a house like tacky Westerners do.
 
American Christianity post-Boomers becoming adults: Just be nice to each other, we're all okay, guys! Everybody in my big 50,000 seat auditorium, we're all okay! Just love the sinner and hate the sin like what that Hindu guy said, and don't judge me only God can do that! Doesn't matter if my congregation is all a bunch of porn addicts and drink heavily and say nasty things to each other, we're all okay, guys! God loves us! We don't need that hellfire and brimstone stuff!

Bible:
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The names I've seen are Newsom, Pritzker, Whitmer, Shapiro, and Beshears, but none really have a lot of traction. They're all carrying varying levels of political baggage that any half-competent GOP candidate could latch onto.
Gavin Newsom has run Cali to the ground and will never win Pennsylvania especially if the Amish vote.

Pritzker defunded police and is a major billionaire; 2020 proves Dem Primary voters hate billionaires.

Whitmer = Ron Desantis. Cannot stand well on national stage. Friendship with Kamala and working with Trump will absolutely be stains.

Josh Shapiro = JEWISH. Part of why Michigan was lost was the Muslim vote. Even if he had Whitmer on his ticket he'd still struggle.

Andy Beshear = Possible threat as a "Moderate Democrat" but would never make it through the primary. Doesn't have the memorability of people he'll be going up against. Doesn't have any major accomplishments to point to since his GOP legislature does most governing. And on a national stage, his blatant corruption with his father will be talked about.

You might say other people like Elizabeth Warren had corrupt pasts as lawyers just like Beshear, but Warren was chosen by Obama and his cohorts over Biden. She had protection. Beshear does not. Because Beshear won't do anything to revive the Obama legacy.

Biden is a nonfactor. But so long as Obama is still in the equation, he's the biggest factor internal to the primaries. Not because people like him, but because he has institutional sway and can set you up with rich donors like he did for Elizabeth Warren. And what Obama wants more than winning is someone who will honor and elevate his legacy. Biden just carried forward Trump policies like Trump's Tax Plan, unchanged for four years straight. And Biden did not bring back the individual mandate, so Obamacare remains neutered.

Progressives can yap about how they will swing things but at the end of the day, the older NeoLib Boomer generation has different priorities. And as people keep forgetting - Obama is a Baby Boomer. So he'll probably backstage endorse someone like Elizabeth Warren 2.0.
 
I want Newsom to get the nomination because I want to see the narcissistic collapse happen in real time when he debates Vance

there's a very real chance that being confronted with someone from a group of people he reflexively despises and considers of negligible status, and getting completely bodied, will cause such a severe break with reality that he physically attacks his opponent

Kamala came real close but she's female

Newsom might actually go for it

right over the podium
 
do not preach manichaeism and call it Christianity

The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions ;and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

For we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands. Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked. For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life.

For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

There's also of course talk about how the body is a temple of the soul and mind, but there is a very clear consistent pattern that the true you is this soul meant for greatness, and your flesh holds it back.

I probably could have worded that better when i said "temporarily inhabiting bodies" and the gundam suit analogy was admittedly a bad one that i didn't put much thought into. I don't mean our souls found these bodies scientology style, they're ours and made for us, but they're not all we are. On the topic of forgiveness that's what I mean.

We should also probably move to a different thread.
 
This is the first time I ever heard of a Christian prohibition for cremation
It depends on the sect. A lot of it is because the Catholic Church was trying to get people away from paganism which is also why eating horses was taboo because a lot of germanic religions ate horse ritualistically.
 
We should also probably move to a different thread.

I'm probably not going to come to another thread but I'm just going to say Paul isn't all of scripture. The relation between spirit and flesh is not something clearly spelled out in scripture because the details aren't important. What is important is properly ordering spiritual things as higher while respecting material creation and avoiding the errors of gnosticism and manichaeism.
 
The problem for the Trump admin is that violent leftist radicals generally come in two varieties.

The homeless drug addicted felon

The upper class trust fund kid

Group A doesn't care if they get sent to prison because prison is just as bad or nicer than the hell that already is their daily lives

Group B doesn't care if they get arrested because our justice system is heavily pay to win and they will immediately deploy a battalion of the finest Jewish lawyers to get them out on bond with reduced charges.

How do you fight that shit adequately?
Pinochet. Follow Pinochet's example....
 
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