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I think his memorial service was touching, but showed the true determination of the Conservative spirit, God and God's country. I can understand why Erica Kirk wanted to forgive because God can find forgiveness in us for slaying his son for our sins. To hold hate like that is unbecoming too. Robinson will die and for killing a holy man, he will burn in hellfire eternal, but as a mother, a servant of God, and a boss. Those emotions are unhealthy to hold. They transform you over time until you don't know who you are, just ask Nancy Pelosi or Hillary.

I have seen a body, and people die, but seeing him die so callously live transformed me. I will not forget your American spirit or unwavering faith in God.

Every day is a treasure; cherish it. Tell your wife/husband that they are sacred every day, thank God for life and joy, or hardship. Most importantly, love America for we are blessed to be part of a wonderful country and together through discussion and action we can make her, her best.

Rest in peace, Charlie. The respect and thoughtfulness I have seen in this thread and the memorial thread have been fantastic. When I see those vile people cackle, it makes my soul hurt because I question how such a cursed creature could exist, but these are wayward and Godless people.

God bless America!
 
I think his memorial service was touching, but showed the true determination of the Conservative spirit, God and God's country. I can understand why Erica Kirk wanted to forgive because God can find forgiveness in us for slaying his son for our sins. To hold hate like that is unbecoming too. Robinson will die and for killing a holy man, he will burn in hellfire eternal, but as a mother, a servant of God, and a boss. Those emotions are unhealthy to hold. They transform you over time until you don't know who you are, just ask Nancy Pelosi or Hillary.

I have seen a body, and people die, but seeing him die so callously live transformed me. I will not forget your American spirit or unwavering faith in God.

Every day is a treasure; cherish it. Tell your wife/husband that they are sacred every day, thank God for life and joy, or hardship. Most importantly, love America for we are blessed to be part of a wonderful country and together through discussion and action we can make her, her best.

Rest in peace, Charlie. The respect and thoughtfulness I have seen in this thread and the memorial thread have been fantastic. When I see those vile people cackle, it makes my soul hurt because I question how such a cursed creature could exist, but these are wayward and Godless people.

God bless America!
I for one am super excited to see future demographic breakdowns of young people coming to God after this, even if it is internally a protest against the evils of the overly socialized leftist hell we've endured. They tried to make a circus out of God's house, but now it will be flush with an ardent and caring new flock.
 
I made the mistake of listening to Erika's speech while out grocery shopping because I had something else to get to right after and wanted to listen to it before. Absolute mistake. The rest I could listen to and feel a bit sad but nothing more. Erika's though shredded my heart. She is a stronger person than I am, that's for sure. But I can see why Charlie chose her above anyone else.
 
Not really though. It's a perfection of the body. Christians believe in a bodily resurrection, stated explicitly, and focusing too much on the spirit only and the hereafter is specifically warned about in several of Paul's epistles.
sucks for the ugly. Niggas in India with deformed heads and shit be like “ooohhh my Vishnu noooo my lumpy ass head was not reincarnated nooo.”
I for one am super excited to see future demographic breakdowns of young people coming to God after this
I’m not. Hasn’t Christianity always been on a downward slope? I thought the world is targeted to be all Muslim rape apes or blue five titty statue worshiping Hindus.
 
The old body is not thrown away. It is restored. This is why Christians should never be cremated. You don’t want to end up in heaven with ashy skin.

That doesn't even make sense. The body would disintegrate or decompose around a year to a decade. At least with cremation, you wouldn't need to pay for a burial and you could spread ashes around if they'd so choose to for the afterlife.

This is the first time I ever heard of a Christian prohibition for cremation
Its tragic when a good joke is wasted, lost in autism...
 
sucks for the ugly. Niggas in India with deformed heads and shit be like “ooohhh my Vishnu noooo my lumpy ass head was not reincarnated nooo.”

I’m not. Hasn’t Christianity always been on a downward slope? I thought the world is targeted to be all Muslim rape apes or blue five titty statue worshiping Hindus.
I am sure this is in bad faith but I believe zoomers already identify more than their parents generation as Christian.

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Fuentes is a FLAMING GAY NIGGER FAGGOT!
My Post about Charlie vs Nick and why Nick seems to hate him will always be correct.

Even more so after Charlie's Death and we see the full fruits of his labor.
If you think about it the greatest enemy to Nick is Charlie Kirk.
He is for all intents and purposes a more successful version of himself when you look at what both proposed and say they are working for you can see the true dichotomy between a failure and a successful person.

1. Make Zoomers and Younger generations more right-wing.

2. Build a political alternative to Neocons, with political power to back up the organization.​

3. Shift the Overton window to the right while embracing the left and showing their worldview

Nick:​

  • Co-ops America first during 2010's and builds an online only audience along the new right wing.
  • Sides with people like The Right Stuff .biz people and starts to push holocaust revisionism, when that was the hot topic of the day. (Cookie Monster baking cookies).
  • With the same people he sided with promotes very clear honeypots like Charlottesville and J6, conveniently never facing any prosecution during this time when rightwingers all over the nation where hounded by the federal and judicial system. (Especially in the later example as he is on video telling people to storm the capital and be violent).
  • Builds his image being the """young people's""" voice while everyone else is old.
    • Whenever he sees someone as a challenge to his """young""" persona, he attacks them relentlessly, attempting to destroy their career before it gets started. Much like he attempted to do with Charlie during the big Groyper attack on him during his early days.
  • His presence is completely online and encourages people to not make political inroads or gains, to instead just shill his show online, circle-jerk, crab in the bucket mentality, and join the cult. As that is the real way you make change in the world behind your computer, yelling at mixed-race children for their existence and warding off non-whites from having a political awakening to the right-wing.
  • Is only brought up by CNN, MSNBC, and other left-leaning media as a bad example of the right, he is never thought of as relevant to anyone on the right except by his fans or when people on the right give him a shot, thinking he was blacklisted wrongl,y only to be backstabbed later.

Charlie:​

  • Creates multiple chapters across colleges and now high schools for students to join a young people-oriented right-wing political group IRL.
  • Creates multiple jobs and careers across the nation in a self-funded and constantly growing political hydra organization with boots on the ground to counterbalance left-wing organizations like Antifa on campus.
  • Builds a massive billion-plus views TikTok and social media presence, normalizing right-wing ideas and challenging the sacred cows of the left.
    • This becomes such a success it encourages multiple people and influencers to try their hand at it. Further pushing the Overton window and exposing the left's worldview as silly.
  • Is, so successful that he is thought of as a threat to democracy and needs to be propagandized against, (Like the recent South Park episode. Or Gaven Newscum's failed podcast showed).
  • Allows for multiple worldviews in a big tent rightwing while recognizing and encouraging the shift towards the right.
    • You can see this with his personal views on Israel being more Evangelical but allowing and encouraging anti-Israel conversations in his organization and promoting their ideas and criticism as valid. (See Tucker Carlson at his giant events and the video below.)
  • His political campaigning during the 2024 election was credited as one of the largest factors getting Trump's win in PA, (they had people go out to Amish and campaign to them directly, which the Amish were the factor that pushed him over the line) and multiple locations around the country.
  • Has multiple political connections from local elections, senators, governors, and all the way up to the President. Having direct conversations with powerful politicians and getting the messaging out there when deviations from Trump's promises start to be made in the House and Senate. (Example the Dignity Act [Video below] and the push to make Trump not deport farm slaves...I mean illegals. And his direct calls with Trump's team to get him back on track.)
  • Working with people like Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson, and others to build lasting media presence and to be a filter for all of the new Right wing politicians have to be put through to gain public support. Which continues to shift the Overton window.
 
God, you niggers are still talking about Kirk? No one actually cares about the death of a random conservative grifter, do they?
Just waiting for the day that the obese orange pedophile that's currently in office dies.
That's a day for celebration, Not this cringe "Charlie Kirk Day" BS.
Maybe if you say nigger and faggot enough we’ll give infants puberty blockers and import the entire population of Indonesia in too.
 
Yeah, why are people still talking about this guy. It's not like he was on a path to the presidency like George Floyd or something.
 
That doesn't even make sense. The body would disintegrate or decompose around a year to a decade. At least with cremation, you wouldn't need to pay for a burial and you could spread ashes around if they'd so choose to for the afterlife.
Do you think the early Christians were stupid? They knew that. The bones are what is important. The Greeks exhume the body after decay and place the bones in a little box for the restoration. It also allows them to reuse the grave sites as well as protect the bones from further degredation.
 
Everything the Jews claim to have made were actually made by the Greeks.

Even the bible.
The Dead Sea Scrolls prove otherwise.

It's more of a custom that's a holdover from a peasant/lay belief rather than an actual teaching.
The Church banned cremation in 1886. However, Boniface VIII's 1299 bull, De Sepulturis, mentions cremations at the point of burial without condemning it. He does, however, inform the faithful, speaking in his role as the supreme teaching authority of the Church, the Vicar of Christ on Earth, whom the Holy Spirit guides to teach infallibly from his chair, that God himself takes great offense at dismembering human bodies for transport to their final resting place, and that anyone who treats a body in such a way cannot be saved unless directly absolved by the pope himself. So while cremation itself isn't forbidden by actual teaching, the Church does in fact teach that God cares deeply about how bodies are treated before burial.
 

Adam Schiff, Tim Kaine Introduce Bill To Protect Caribbean Drug Traffickers From Trump Strikes​

Sens. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) and Tim Kaine (D-Va.) introduced a resolution on Friday aimed at halting U.S. military strikes on drug trafficking operations in the Caribbean, saying the actions were launched without congressional approval.

The measure, filed under the War Powers Act, would prohibit use of the military against non-state groups involved in drug trafficking unless Congress authorizes it. War powers resolutions are privileged, meaning the Senate must take up the measure for debate and a vote.

The move follows two recent military strikes in the Southern Caribbean Sea—on Sept. 2 and Sept. 15—that targeted vessels that were carrying narcotics. Democratic lawmakers say they have not received key details about the incidents, including who was on board, the cargo, and the legal basis for lethal force.

President Donald Trump has said the vessels belonged to “extraordinarily violent drug trafficking cartels and narcoterrorists” operating out of Venezuela. He said the boats were carrying narcotics bound for the United States, calling them a direct threat to U.S. national security and vital interests.

“If you are transporting drugs that can kill Americans, we are hunting you,” Trump said after the Sept. 15 operation, which killed three people. He added there was “recorded evidence” that drugs were on board, including large bags of cocaine and fentanyl scattered in the water after the strike.

“Congress alone holds the power to declare war,” Schiff said in announcing the resolution. “And while we share with the executive branch the imperative of preventing and deterring drugs from reaching our shores, blowing up boats without any legal justification risks dragging the United States into another war and provoking unjustified hostilities against our own citizens.”

Kaine alleged the Trump administration had failed to explain why standard interdiction methods were not used.

“President Trump has no legal authority to launch strikes or use military force in the Caribbean or elsewhere in the Western Hemisphere,” Kaine said, adding that “Congress simply cannot let itself be stiff-armed as this administration continues to flout the law.”

The White House has said the earlier strike on Sept. 2 targeted the operations of Tren de Aragua, a Venezuelan transnational gang designated as a foreign terrorist organization, and that it was conducted in defense of U.S. national interests.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said at the time the mission was part of a broader effort to protect the United States and the Western Hemisphere from drug cartels. “Anyone else trafficking in those waters who we know is a designated narco-terrorist will face the same fate,” Hegseth said.

The Democrat resolution argues that drug trafficking does not constitute an armed attack or an imminent threat justifying military action, and that designating an organization as a foreign terrorist group does not authorize use of force.

It directs the president to remove U.S. forces from hostilities against such groups unless explicitly authorized by Congress, while clarifying that the United States retains the right to act in self-defense against an armed attack.

Schiff and Kaine said that Congress supports efforts to stop narcotics from reaching the United States, but said intelligence, law enforcement, and diplomatic tools should be prioritized.

Jackson Richman contributed to this report.

Trump Admin Expands Targets Across Global Narco Networks
 
Wrong, douchebag. Erika is nothing like Big Mike and you know it, even comparing the two is a huge insult. Michelle never lost anything important to her and she had no stake in the game besides being another pawn, for Erika this is deeply personal and that's exactly what we need in the White House. We need someone who knows what these freaks are capable of and have deeply personal stakes in the battle if we are to have any change in this country, the way I see it Erika is ordained by God to do his work with Charlie watching over her.

You're missing the point of what I wrote entirely. I don't care if she gave a good speech. If your criteria for VP candidate is that they gave a good speech once or lost something important to them, there are plenty of candidates who are just as qualified as Erika Kirk.

The last person I want in the White House is someone for whom the job is "deeply personal" because that's a person who can or will be ruled by their emotions. Kamala Harris is the sort of person who no doubt considered her role to be deeply personal. I want someone who's going to put their personal feelings aside and do what's best for the country, not believe that they have some divine right to the presidency. That's the mentality that Obama had and look how that turned out for the country.

As for Erika's lack of experience I say look to Trump's whole cabinet. All of his strongest soldiers and the ones doing the best work are political outsiders that by your assessment would have no qualifications, Trump himself also falls into that category. Who's to say Erika doesn't become Vance's VP for 8 years before she becomes President? She has so much time to prepare.

Who in Trump's cabinet is unqualified? Most have long careers in politics or have worked in other government positions that have helped shape or prepare them for where they are now. Tom Homan has a long career as a border patrol agent and served in Trump's cabinet during his first term. Tulsi served in the military and in Congress. Rubio had been serving in Congress for two decades before his appointment. RFK Jr. has a long history of advocacy for better health. Pam Bondi was the state AG in Florida for almost a decade. Kristi Noem was a former state governor. Stephen Miller has a a long history of working as a press secretary or in other roles for a multiple Republican representatives. Even Linda McMahon has previous experience serving on a state board of education.

We also live in a time where it's an inevitable probability that we will have a female President one day, who do you want the first female President to be? AOC? Jasmine Crockett? Keffals? No, you want it to be Erika Kirk, because she is the only woman who has earned it. The Republicans can't let the left have the honor of having the first female President as it would be in the name of a phony sense of fake progress, with Erika it's a real showing of progress and it rubs in their faces that the Republicans have always been the real party of progress. The left doesn't deserve it.

What did Erika Kirk do to earn it? If someone someday shoots AOC's husband would she have suddenly "earned it" and deserve to president in your eyes as well? Your criteria for why Erika Kirk should be VP/President are just as phony. None of those people should be POTUS. What you've written is Democrat-tier emotional rhetoric and it sucks.

Also, Keffals is neither an American, nor female. That you fucked that up shows you're either overly emotional from all of this and turned your brain off, or that nothing you've written is genuine in the first place. I'll choose to believe it's the former. In the spirit of the day, I'll choose to forgive you for starting your post off with "Wrong, douchebag."
 
The old body is not thrown away. It is restored. This is why Christians should never be cremated. You don’t want to end up in heaven with ashy skin.
By this logic there's people walking around heaven without limbs, without heads, and mostly being old and wrinkled and possibly even shriveled up and blue.

Whether the "body" talked about in Corinthians and the like is a new brand new body, a reanimating of our current one, or a new one that looks exactly like our current one, it's absurd to think god's ability to give this to us is dependent on the state our body is in when or after we die. Is a righteous man who dies in a house fire going to be denied heaven? Is god just going to say "oh well I can totally do the whole eternal life thing but i can't bring back a body that has been cremated". He literally did this once already when he made Adam from dust.
 
Perhaps they should not have relinquished so much authority to the executive branch if they didn't want the executive branch to use it. Schiff was there at the time, not sure about Kaine. I don't know if it's confirmation bias or what but the Democrats seem extremely short sighted.
 
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