MOID advice needed for the girlies - Opposite of the Salon's Femoid advice thread.

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I have so many questions, but I'm mostly curious rn about paranoia and it's general prevalence in moid culture. It just seems like so many guys have a heightened sense of paranoia more frequently than others? What factors contribute to this tendency towards this constant vigilance?

Sorry if there is already a thread like this or if it's in the wrong place.
 
Men aren't paranoid, they're fairly realistic about dangers and are hard wired to be prepped for it.
Here are some examples that we would never think of, that my husband, his male coworkers and male friends all HAVE to do.
>not stare too long at a woman, even glancing twice can be seen as creepy.
>smiling at women, because it can be seen as creepy.
>cannot walk near any school or park by themself without suspiscion if an adult, even if it's on their way to work. Actually, that's worse, because it gets seen as a pattern.
>cannot walk too close behind a woman
>absolutely never ever touch a female coworker for any reason, not even for reassurance if they're afraid or sad.
>don't bother correcting a female workmate unless you want your ear talked off.

My husband isn't an incel, he doesn't hate women, hell most women like him. But he hates, h a t e s being alone with them for any reason. Hell, his advice to any teen boys is literally "do not ever be alone in a room with a woman, her friends don't count. If she decides to claim something, you're fucked".
This unironically happened to my brother. His ex admitted to doing it so he would get in trouble after he left her.
No, she was not punished for it.
Everything you're reading and thinking "oh that's rediculous", now imagine a man in that scenario and imagine if you would immediately be on alert. I'm definitely guilty with the glance thing, or guys zoning out and being unlucky by facing toward me, then me panicking. My husband can usually tell if a guy is just zoned out or not.

Similarly, many guys won't really think of the anxieties we might have, or the frustrations of not being taught some of the same things in the same way. There's a reason the man vs woman debate is as old as time.
Where you guys live? You can't even be alone with a women without being afraid? Maybe I too stupid or autistic but I never had any of theses fears. Of course some of theses things are common sense but the rest, I don't get it.
 
>smiling at women, because it can be seen as creepy.
>cannot walk near any school or park by themself without suspiscion if an adult, even if it's on their way to work. Actually, that's worse, because it gets seen as a pattern.
>cannot walk too close behind a woman
>absolutely never ever touch a female coworker for any reason, not even for reassurance if they're afraid or sad.
>don't bother correcting a female workmate unless you want your ear talked off.
Your husband is a pussy
 
My husband isn't an incel, he doesn't hate women, hell most women like him. But he hates, h a t e s being alone with them for any reason. Hell, his advice to any teen boys is literally "do not ever be alone in a room with a woman, her friends don't count. If she decides to claim something, you're fucked".
This unironically happened to my brother. His ex admitted to doing it so he would get in trouble after he left her.
No, she was not punished for it.
I'm confused by this whole thing. So your brother's ex fucked some other dude, left him, and this would get your brother in trouble how?
 
Where you guys live? You can't even be alone with a women without being afraid? Maybe I too stupid or autistic but I never had any of theses fears. Of course some of theses things are common sense but the rest, I don't get it.
the more westernized your country, the bigger your city, and the younger your peer group, the more real these concerns become.
 
If a woman is behind the counter at the store, does he just look down? Please tell me I wanna know, I've never heard this in my life before unless they're autistic.
He smiles and greets female workers, makes small talk, etc. Same with fast-food workers. He will also look co workers in the eyes and stuff just fine, it's specifically strangers in an environment that it cluld be taken as weird or creepy.

To explain this hyper awareness, he grew up in Chicago (we don't live there now so idgaf) his college had several women falsely accuse men of rape, which lessened people's belief towards actual victims, and nothing happened to them.
It's a much bigger problem and people are way more likely to make false claims. But even besides that, idk why, but it seems like men are just treated... idk, like they're potentially feral or something? It's fucking bizarre.
When we visited, he decided to prove it by smiling at random women with children. The death glares he got was honestly shocking, some women even had their phones out just in case. It felt like such a huge over reaction to someone *just smiling*. It's definitely mostly a big city mentality I think, but some smaller ones do have some of these problems too.

I decided to also try it, and got a much different reaction. I'm from an area where you greet strangers anyway so I was used to it. Most people looked confused or amused. I was treated like I was just some naive girl who had never visited a big city before, but my husband was treated like he was an actual threat. I still don't get it.
 
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I decided to also try it, and got a much different reaction. I'm from an area where you greet strangers anyway so I was used to it. Most people looked confused or amused. I was treated like I was just some naive girl who had never visited a big city before, but my husband was treated like he was an actual threat. I still don't get it.
You can get weird looks and death glares if you smile at Russians, no matter the sex. I think it is funny.
 
It's very easy to say women's concerns are silly when you don't live by that standard
The reason it can come across so alien to us is because its a self imposed standard. Its like watching someone hammer nails through their feet then try to walk around while they point at you and screech, "I'm doing this for YOU!!!!."
 
The reason it can come across so alien to us is because its a self imposed standard. Its like watching someone hammer nails through their feet then try to walk around while they point at you and screech, "I'm doing this for YOU!!!!."
I think the most valuable thing to come out of the femoid thread was the admission that most of what they do is intrasexual posturing rather than intersexual signaling. They say they're doing it for you, but they're really doing it because they don't want to suffer the judgement of other women, which... I can kind of understand, like if your wife thinks you'd look better in a polo shirt but you know that being seen in a polo shirt will signal to other men that you'd tongue ass for a raise. I think a lot of grief would be avoided if more women were willing to admit that to their partners and themselves.
 
polo shirts are sexy and you all need to get out more.
Depends on how you wear it and who’s wearing it. If it’s like a nice black one like Brock wears in venture bros then yes I’d agree.
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wtf i love polo shirts though?
are you telling me that i have been accidentally wearing secret homo fashion for all these years?? what the fuck is this shit
It's not a homo thing, in the blue collar world it signifies the divide between the people with real jobs who do real work versus salesmen, managers and other professional talkers. If you see someone in a machine shop or similar wearing a polo shirt, you can usually assume they don't know how to perform the tasks that are actually generating the revenue, and they're instead occupying some vestigial niche, and they know it, and the literal and figurative insecurity of their position usually compels them to brown nose their way up the corporate ladder.

There are exceptions, notably IT, where people in polo shirts actually do stuff, it's just a blue collar thing.
 
It's not a homo thing, in the blue collar world it signifies the divide between the people with real jobs who do real work versus salesmen, managers and other professional talkers. If you see someone in a machine shop or similar wearing a polo shirt, you can usually assume they don't know how to perform the tasks that are actually generating the revenue, and they're instead occupying some vestigial niche, and they know it, and the literal and figurative insecurity of their position usually compels them to brown nose their way up the corporate ladder.

There are exceptions, notably IT, where people in polo shirts actually do stuff, it's just a blue collar thing.
You've got some weird hangups about shirts.
 
I think men tend to take more interest in violent content like fights, and have more experience taking stupid risks growing up where only a close friend would help them if they got hurt. This experience might not be correct in every situation, but it can give them a different perspective. For example, a lot of "confident" body language involves opening up and exposing vitals. This makes people feel impressed by how you act untouchable, but the tradeoff is that someone acting confident can be seriously injured more easily by those around them. People who have been punched in the face or gut understand this better, I think. A lot of people act confident when arguing, and may not realize that this works because it is a bluff, and if it escalates to a fight, they are at a disadvantage.
I had some male friends who would run up behind me and punch me in the back of the head growing up. I had female friends steal stuff and treat it like a game, loudly giggling and squealing at a time when they shouldn't be drawing attention to themselves. Maybe I just hang around a lot of retards. Maybe I'm daft too.

Men aren't paranoid, they're fairly realistic about dangers and are hard wired to be prepped for it.
Here are some examples that we would never think of, that my husband, his male coworkers and male friends all HAVE to do.
>not stare too long at a woman, even glancing twice can be seen as creepy.
>smiling at women, because it can be seen as creepy.
>cannot walk near any school or park by themself without suspiscion if an adult, even if it's on their way to work. Actually, that's worse, because it gets seen as a pattern.
>cannot walk too close behind a woman
>absolutely never ever touch a female coworker for any reason, not even for reassurance if they're afraid or sad.
>don't bother correcting a female workmate unless you want your ear talked off.

My husband isn't an incel, he doesn't hate women, hell most women like him. But he hates, h a t e s being alone with them for any reason. Hell, his advice to any teen boys is literally "do not ever be alone in a room with a woman, her friends don't count. If she decides to claim something, you're fucked".
This unironically happened to my brother. His ex admitted to doing it so he would get in trouble after he left her.
No, she was not punished for it.
Everything you're reading and thinking "oh that's rediculous", now imagine a man in that scenario and imagine if you would immediately be on alert. I'm definitely guilty with the glance thing, or guys zoning out and being unlucky by facing toward me, then me panicking. My husband can usually tell if a guy is just zoned out or not.

Similarly, many guys won't really think of the anxieties we might have, or the frustrations of not being taught some of the same things in the same way. There's a reason the man vs woman debate is as old as time.
This all is true sometimes, but applies to varying degrees irl. The big issue I see is that innocent guys might act anxious in those scenarios, which draws suspicion to them (like if a guy said "I'm not here to look at the children, I'm just on my daily commute" it would be immediately concerning) even if they're fine guys.
Another drawback of knowing this stuff is that in social life if a guy doesn't take any risks, or ignore some boundaries, they will face steeper odds of finding a partner in the first place. Inagine a guy who was taught that asking someone on a date was harassment. Sure, it can make a woman uncomfortable, but at least where I live the guys have to take the initiative or they'll be overlooked.
wtf i love polo shirts though?
are you telling me that i have been accidentally wearing secret homo fashion for all these years?? what the fuck is this shit
Around here, wearing polo shirts is preppy, like golfing, being a member of the rowing team, being a member of the country club, or playing raquetball instead of tennis. Plus, having a bit of chest hair poking out is the guy equivalent of cleavage. Some ladies like it, but some ladies also like men with a bulge in their yoga pants. If I saw a guy like that I'd think he was a bit pervy.
 
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