Nutrek / New Star Trek / 2009 - Present day - The most embarrassing production modern television has ever seen

Rafey can replicate a house. Picard's vineyard burned down pointlessly in Star Trek Generations and he replicated a new one. Rafey didn't have a problem with space at all.

The fact that people live where they were born has been referenced multiple times. They probably don't allow aliens outside of officials to live on Earth due to overpopulation. Besides, we've seen in multiple episodes that hating your place of birth is highly discouraged. Earth in the future doesn't have the "Don't like your country? Move to another!" mentality that leads to mass migration.
There are quite a few aliens living on earth that have nothing to do with officials. The vineyard didn't burn down, there was a fire in an outbuilding that they died in and building houses isn't quite that simple. Industrial replicators are a thing but they're for major manufacturing and not something the average person has direct access to
 
If they can 3D print houses now, then they can probably do it in the 24th century. I hate the episodes in VOY and DS9 where they show Earth because they basically make Earth the Federation's slut. Humans apparently have to coexist with aliens on their own planet. Even though the Federation goes through a whole song and dance with every other planet and allows them to maintain their autonomy.
In DS9 Earth's unified government (gross) even had an alien president.
 
This is retarded. We know from every Star Trek show we've seen that everyone gets their own replicator in their quarters. Again, the producers are trying to make Starfleet evil in whatever way they can.
fwiw all the crew quarters we see with replicators are officer’s quarters. Regular enlisted don’t even get private quarters afaik.
 
Trouble with Tribbles is one of my favourite episodes of Trek.
If you've never seen DS9's Trials and Tribble-ations, you owe it to yourself to watch it as soon as possible. For that matter, if you haven't watched DS9 all the way through, you probably should, because it's the best Trek series hands down. Just go ahead and skip Move Along Home.
the Naked Now was pretty entertaining
Any episode that has a prominent role for Wesley Crusher is by definition terrible. This is a hill I'm willing to die on.
 
The only good thing from Star Trek Picard is the ship designs. Like the Constitution III/Neo-Constitution Class, Excelsior II Class, Odyssey Class, Ross Class, Duderstadt Class, etc.
 
fwiw all the crew quarters we see with replicators are officer’s quarters. Regular enlisted don’t even get private quarters afaik.
It depends heavily on the type of ship, crew size, mission(s) and which era on whether the lower ranks have their own private quarters. To sharing quarters or all of them sleeping in berths like on the USS Excelsior in STVI.
 
Honestly, everything after Voyager looks like garbage and even a large part of Voyager kind of sucked. I never really liked enterprise. I was pissed off when it came out because I didn't give a fuck about what happened before the original series and I wanted to see what happened after Voyager. Also, I can't fucking stand Scott Bakula. I didn't like him in quantum leap and I didn't like him in enterprise. I used to look forward to the new Voyager episodes. Me and my mom watched them together. I got like halfway through the first season of enterprise and just couldn't be bothered any more.

The nutrek movie was stupid and nothing like star trek. I think I might have seen the second one as well but I honestly can't remember for sure if I have or not.

I haven't seen any of the new star trek series but the trailers and clips of them I've seen look pretty shitty.

The Orville was cool though. I've only seen the first two seasons but it was better than any post-Voyager trek I've seen. It makes me sad that annoying faggot Seth MacFarlane seems to give more of a shit about star trek than the people actually making star trek.

Like fuck, I just want to see a fucking crew of inoffensively and not in your face diverse people and aliens travelling around on a space ship exploring strange new worlds and boldly going where no one's gone before. With some good science fiction stories about fucking anomalies or fucking interdimensional aliens or fucking romulans or something. I don't need to see current year bullshit in there shoved in my fucking face because one thing older star treks were good at was using subtle metaphors and clever story telling to make whatever message they were trying to send instead of whatever the fuck they're doing now.
 
The only good/watchable nuTrek production was the final season of Picard. It felt like if Stewart was playing Jean-Luc Picard again instead of "Jay-El Biden".

The Orville was cool though. I've only seen the first two seasons but it was better than any post-Voyager trek I've seen. It makes me sad that annoying faggot Seth MacFarlane seems to give more of a shit about star trek than the people actually making star trek.
I wish Seth MacFarlane could find a way to greenlight a 4th season of The Orville.
 
As opposed to SNW where the only problems are brought on by the incompetent producers. TNG started as a super ambitious show with no budget. If you watch the interviews, you'll see that literally every actor said, "I didn't think the show would go on for more than a season because you can't make Star Trek again." It beat the odds and became one of the biggest shows on syndicated television, often beating the most popular sitcoms of the time.

DS9, VOY, and ENT all tried to do something new and unique after TNG and they all succeeded in their own way. Nutrek has the budget. The franchise is strong to the point where they don't need Kirk and Spock to make successful TV shows. There is just no excuse for "UHHH THE FIRST SEASONS ARE BAD COZ STAR TREK I GUESS!" There is no excuse for the failure that is modern Star Trek. The writers and producers deserve to be homeless.

TNG is my favourite season, followed by Enterprise and then DS9. I get what you're saying but let me cope over it god dammit. I've read all the interviews, seen all the shows. I am a massive Trek guy.

STD is shit. Picard was shit. BNW is at least got some level of effort in it and isn't sickly repulsive. Lower Decks is just fun.

Is the Star Trek we deserved? Probably not. After STD and Picard though I'll take anything that isn't complete dog shit in the hopes they take audience feedback and make it something worth remembering.

I am old enough to remember hating Enterprise and then rewatching it and realizing it shouldn't have been cancelled, and I hope the same doesn't repeat again.
the only snw episode i can recommend is the season 1 finale quality of mercy. which is basically a remake of the tos episode errand of mercy

with snw, i really hate what they did with the gorn. making them the alien franchise xenomorphs. the snw gorn comes across as mindless animals. in the reality of nutrek, i understand the gorn at birth are not intelligent and are wild animals, but the gorn are a space faring species. the gorn, as a species, should be intelligent enough to not plant their eggs in uncontrol environments. it is almost as if the nutrek writers wants to have the gorn be two contradictory things: an intelligent species on par with the federation and wild beasts that don't have a mind of their own.

edit. balance of terror

I do wish they stuck with the Enterprise style of Gorn.
This wasn't true in TNG and the Enterprise had over 1000 people.

It depends on the ship. In TNG they might have to share quarters on smaller ships. The Constellation Class and up are just huge. Anything from the vanilla TNG ships are more like cruise ships with a lot of firepower.

The only good/watchable nuTrek production was the final season of Picard. It felt like if Stewart was playing Jean-Luc Picard again instead of "Jay-El Biden".


I wish Seth MacFarlane could find a way to greenlight a 4th season of The Orville.

Wait - I thought Orville was greenlit? That show went from wannabe TOS knock-off comedy shows to one of the best Sci-Fis in modern tv.

I used to be in this discord that was about discussing another franchise, it was like in depth novel and lore conversations but we had this off topic area and this one guy spent like 2 years essentially talking to himself trying to bring up Discovery and Picard and how every single complaint anyone had was wrong and when SNW dropped how it proved (somehow) those other shows were good too and there was NEVER any continuity mistakes or character inconsistencies (which is retarded to say about any franchise) and some people took the bait and argued with him but I just thought he was an annoying faggot and anyways at one point he sperged out because no-one would agree with him and then someone pointed out the discord wasn't even about star trek and he had a full on melty and it came out he had only read like 2 books of what the discord we were on was even for. Why am I telling you all about this? because I assume he's a good marker for the type of people nutrek fans are and what the quality of said shows must be like.

I have seen every single Star Trek multiple times, since childhood. I'm not sperging out - I just have a different opinion.
 
I was pissed off when it came out because I didn't give a fuck about what happened before the original series and I wanted to see what happened after Voyager.
A lot of people would agree with you. Enterprise was very controversial when it came out and I also couldn't stand it when I first watched it. The great set design is what eventually won me over and I actually came to like most of the characters.
 
Wait - I thought Orville was greenlit? That show went from wannabe TOS knock-off comedy shows to one of the best Sci-Fis in modern tv.
I don't know, between the writers' strike and Disney wanting to get more control over Hulu, it feels like everything is against The Orville.
 
I don't know, between the writers' strike and Disney wanting to get more control over Hulu, it feels like everything is against The Orville.
When STD came out it was obviously not real Star Trek but the show didn't get that bad yet. As for The Orville, pretty much everyone wrote it off as Seth McFarlane's fanfiction and placed their bets on STD being good. Isn't it funny how everything works out?
 
When STD came out it was obviously not real Star Trek but the show didn't get that bad yet. As for The Orville, pretty much everyone wrote it off as Seth McFarlane's fanfiction and placed their bets on STD being good. Isn't it funny how everything works out?

I gave up on Discovery when I seen the fucking Klingons and the 2fps space battle. Orville is what kept me going for Trek fix.

It's scary how much effort and love Seth can put in to something he actually cares about, and the dramatic shift in tone throughout the show really upped the anty. I really hope Orville gets renewed, I cannot imagine why Disney would let one of its few well-received franchises go (unless Kennedy wants to stick a chick in it, make her gay, and make it lame).

The Battle for Earth will remain as one of my favourite space battles because it had real tension and the seasons built up to it.
 
I have seen every single Star Trek multiple times, since childhood. I'm not sperging out - I just have a different opinion.
I wasn't talking about you. I didn't see you try to say SNW magically makes the other shows not suck or anything. I don't give a shit if you like something, dislike something, have seen something 100 times or once. My point was more directed towards people grasping at straws becauee they have the consume everything and excuse everything attitude.I haven't seen it so I can't speak to the show. I'll watch it eventually probably but honestly Orville filled my ST void when it was on that I just kinda have no interest atm. I remember reading Seth McFarlane was trying to take over star trek a few years ago and I wasn't aware at how much he loved it and thought that sounded like a disaster but I really wish he would have gotten it. Because it's kinda obvious the comedy in Orville is just there because its him and the way he conned the studio into making the show. he obviously just wants to make new TNG episodes lol
 
A lot of people would agree with you. Enterprise was very controversial when it came out and I also couldn't stand it when I first watched it. The great set design is what eventually won me over and I actually came to like most of the characters.
I feel like I would probably enjoy it if I were to give it a chance now. But on the other hand I still want to punch Scott Bakula right in his stupid smarmy fucking grin every time I see his face so I probably won't watch it.
 
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