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You know - for kids lol
The MPAA needs to be disbanded. They suck corporate cock and routinely allow Disney to put horrific shit in its films without while keeping its PG-13 ratings. I thought it was bad enough in Doctor Strange with outright skulls caving in onscreen, but zoosadism in a major motion picture is a new low.

The only rules for corporations this days is that there is no blood or female nipples onscreen.
 
Now that's ironic since Dave Bautista has made a big deal of his mom being a lesbian for progressive points.
"Everyone is conservative about the things they know best," like whether or not they actually want to get intimate with someone who has a dick.

This sounds like Gunn flipping the bird to Marvel as his encore. Friendship ended with [Iger], [Zaslav] is my best friend now.
 
I haven't enjoyed any of the Guardians films, found them too cringy and filled with retarded jokes for my liking, but if what you say about the zoosadism is not exaggerated then it sounds almost as if Gunn read my thoughts and went "Oh you hate comedy, well have some animal torture porn instead, faggot" maybe he did get possessed, or maybe he really is a zoosadist I mean considering his pedo jokes back in the day, the scene you describe about kid animals in cages sounds like something he maybe likes or
This sounds like Gunn flipping the bird to Marvel as his encore. Friendship ended with [Iger], [Zaslav] is my best friend now.
Maybe this is it he is now the big shot at DC so he maybe did "sabotage" Marvel to ensure the MCU burns and his new DCU has no competition, although I'd say its a risky move since the DC brand has so far failed to captivate audiences even after ditching Snyder.
 
The MPAA needs to be disbanded. They suck corporate cock and routinely allow Disney to put horrific shit in its films without while keeping its PG-13 ratings. I thought it was bad enough in Doctor Strange with outright skulls caving in onscreen, but zoosadism in a major motion picture is a new low.

The only rules for corporations this days is that there is no blood or female nipples onscreen.
Based on the fight scene with Zeus in the latest Thor movie, you can show gratuitous amounts of blood and get a PG-13 rating as long as the color is not red.

 
Based on the fight scene with Zeus in the latest Thor movie, you can show gratuitous amounts of blood and get a PG-13 rating as long as the color is not red.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=KAAO6qA_8ow:120
yes
iirc in Lord Of The Rings commentary Pete Jackson got fairly deep into what they had trouble with for ratings, and red blood is a very quick trip to R-town, but he was surprised you could splat basically however if it's not red

also I recall Warlock not really being a sexual character one way or the other, he was too busy being pensive about cosmic shit to worry about ass
 
I'll have to see if for myself. Gunn is a weirdo but I have a hard time believing there is graphic mutilation with oozing open sores and crushed skulls.

That seems a bit much for Disney.
There is the other angle of maybe Disney did wanted GotG3 to be like this as FU to the fans that had wanted Gunn back. Seen this done before where a series, usually on FOX, gets canceled after one season. The network uncancel the series due to fan demand; however the network actively sabotages the second seasons to the point of being so terrible. They're canceled again and create cognitive dissonances of "there's no second season" amongst the fanbases.
 
So just came back from Guardians 3, it's out in the UK already. I will be frank I walked out of this film. I have only walked out 3 films in my life and Pirates of the Caribbean 3 was one of those. The film is awful for a multitude of reasons.

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All the stuff you said
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The film is a mess but the Marvel shills are in hyperdrive atm
Just came back from it, and oh my god, you're so full of shit, or a massive pussy.

Yes, there's body horror and scenes of animal experimentation, but it doesn't "relish" on it, it's shown as something horrific and tragic. And it's not 50 minutes, the experimentation flashbacks must total at most 20 minutes out of the film.

What the fuck are you talking about Warlock being gay? He's dumb and childish, because as they explain, he was pulled out of the cocoon before he finished developing. There's literally no "faggotory" scenes with him. He gets a pet, is that what you mean? The gay joke with Mantis and Drax is one 30 second (at most) scene, and it's not a running joke either, Drax just says that she "does this every time". It doesn't reoccur, the joke doesn't come back when the man in question appears again, etc.

The amount and appropriateness of jokes is about on par with Vol2, which I thought was too much already. But it's not on the level of, say, Thor4. The humor is also more character driven, and jokes that seem to be just throwaway quips for the hahas end up informing character moments later. For instance, there's a lot of jokes (and scenes of characters bitching) about Drax's intelligence, and later it pays off as they realize what Drax's calling really is. There's scenes that play out like a comedy of errors (characters end up in different places because of misunderstandings or miscommunications or just plain wrongheadedness), but they also inform character moments or lead to necessary plot development.

I'm gonna be honest: this one is actually good. Maybe even great, but I need to let it marinate a bit in my mind. There's the usual Marvel caveats, like the aformentioned humor, of course. But it's got good action (there's a oner -obviously very CGI-heavy- that's really well done and reminded me of the big scene in Avengers where the action followed each character as they did essentially combo attacks with other Avengers. Hell, the very final fight scene with the villain is like something you'd pull out in Marvel Vs Capcom 2 if you knew how to use your assists and supers); there's a ton of tearjerker scenes, and while some do rely on the body horror aspects, they're generally very well done, and the big ones are really, really earned, not just from this movie but from the entire arc of the Guardians; you criticize the acting, and in some of the more comedic scenes yeah, I can give you that. But in the dramatic scenes, they really manage to sell the emotions the characters are feeling.
Both in action and emotion, pretty much every primary and secondary character gets a moment or two.

I'll say there's a couple things you get right. A few songs aren't as well utilized as in the previous films, there's a lot of profanity that feels out of place (lots of people calling each other assholes, dicks, Quill going "just open the fucking door", etc.). There's a joke near the end that feels like something out of Deadpool 2 (not for the profanity, but kind of a scene that's supposed to be tense and dramatic turning into something a bit undignified). And you're absolutely right that the actor for the villain would have been a much better Kang than Majors.

What can I say, I really liked it. I felt Ants3 was criticized more harshly than it deserved, but it was still very flawed. Not this one. It's really good, and a great sendoff to the trilogy. It's what I wanted out of Thor4, Ants3, and some others: complete the character arcs, close the loose threads, give a good sendoff to the characters, and sure, introduce something for the future but provide a jumping off point for those who want out.

And ironically, I think this is my stop. I can honestly say I don't care for anything that's upcoming from the MCU. I may care about Nova if they ever get around doing him. Maybe Spidey, but it depends on what they do moving forward (if they just go back to Zendaya getting her memories back immediately, which they just might, then fuck that). But right now? I think I'm good.
 
Based on the fight scene with Zeus in the latest Thor movie, you can show gratuitous amounts of blood and get a PG-13 rating as long as the color is not red.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=KAAO6qA_8ow:120
I haven't seen Thor 4, and if you told me it was an AI generated parody of Marvel films I would have believed you. It is so outrageously bad I don't know where to start:
* The shitty villain that is killed in the cinematic equivalent to a cutscene.
* Full backwards nude shot of a male actor that would never happened for a female actor.
* Justifying killing the villain for a revenge that is shown to be unnecessary five seconds later.
* The villain twirling his weapon for a minute despite it being unfunny and lame, I don't even know if how shitty it was a joke.
* Killing mooka while being surrounded by comic relief and Stornk Wamen, in a cgi scene that is TGWTG tier with the actors just sperging out in a green screen. With gold blood that is somehow okay despite being splattered on the characters.
* The scene ends with Boomer music for no apperant reason, and no fallout for the characters (isn't the entire plot based on a person avenging his family being killed by gods?).
 
GoTG Vol 3 is great. There is zoosadism, a ton of F-bombs, pretty bit of gore, and I can't believe this movie is PG-13. Fucking ratings are a joke.

I liked it overall, brings nice closure to the characters, can't believe Volume 2 came out 6 years ago, and in that time Gunn went from being fired from Disney, hired by DC for The Suicide Squad, back to Disney for Vol 3 and a Christmas special and then back to DC to handle their universe.

The movie had a lot of "Gunn style" since it was actually made from a director that knows his end goal, and I won't be interested in any further projects by the Mouse except maybe for Secret Invasion and Daredevil Born Again, when those will come out.
 
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@Nick Obre I respect your viewpoints, honestly when it comes to the animal violence stuff that is my kryptonite. Hate it and find it just gross, I am the same with child shit too. I knew we were getting Rocket stuff but I was not expecting that level.

It is very Gunn and I think it is going to be one of those polarized films where some people love it, which is the majority I believe and some people just cannot take certain elements. I will give it this for me personally it's better than 2. 2 is like Rohypnal for me, I cannot remember anything of that film except the opening set piece.

I will admit I am so tired of Marvel-isms at this point, whilst 3 is a different film. It's obvious the execs forced Gunn to put the tropes in. It feels like a film wanting to break standard conventions but bogged down. I will give it this too whilst I felt the editing to be haphazard at least it has a unique directional approach. It's the only thing I liked about Strange 2, you could tell it was a Raini film sometimes.
 
Wasn't that, like, several movies including Endgame ago?
I recall either gotg1 or 2 had a post credits of his HIM pod open?
GoTG Vol 2 post-credits scene had Elizabeth Debicki's character show off the Cocoon containing Adam. This was 6 years ago. I liked Adam Warlock's character, he was goofy and on the side for the most part, but he had a nice story arc. I bet half of the audience in my theater couldn't even remember what his motives for hunting Rocket are.

It's funny that in the Italian dub, the High Evolutionary voice actor is the same as Léon Scott Kennedy from the RE Remake games. And also the actor played Diamondback in Luke Cage season 1. Awesome character.


edit: fuck, just realized that it's not the same actor. Man they really look-a-like. Also I loved the Robocop reference by Peter, I was waiting for it, despite Robocop 1 being out for less than a year by the time Pete got kidnapped by the Ravagers.
 
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An excerpt from a review in the Wall Street Journal that has a few faint words of praise, but the ending line is a heck of a one.

The series’ major asset continues to be the lovable doofus played by Mr. Pratt, whom Mr. Gunn elevated from little-discussed sitcom actor to global movie star in the original “GOTG” nine years ago (and who repaid the filmmaker by leading calls for Disney to re-hire him). He remains a charmer but has less substance to work with than usual. (Mr. Gunn has moved on from Peter’s amusing fixation on Lite FM classics, which drove both the plot and the feel of the first two films.) Peter’s yearnings about his parents, which sparked much of the previous action, get a stale replay: Now he wants to reconnect with his grandfather. He’s also having problems with his former girlfriend Gamora ( Zoe Saldaña ), with whom he needs to start over romantically since her memories of him have been erased (a plot device recently used in “Spider-Man: No Way Home”).

Mr. Gunn’s best sequences, the ones that show heart rather than merely offering you’re-an-idiot banter and ho-hum team brawls, revisit Rocket’s days as a young captive in the High Evolutionary’s scary labs, where he and other talking animals formed warm friendships. These scenes aren’t especially well-written, but they at least offer some disarming early-childhood wonder à la “Babe” amid 150 minutes of interplanetary blam-blam. (As usual, there are both mid-credit and post-credit sequences, neither of which matter much.)

The Marvel Cinematic Universe is living off its stores—the stock of love its characters built up among audiences for its mostly very good films through 2019. More than 30 pictures in, the main imperative appears to be spending enormous sums on visual effects. For all the Louis Vuitton production budgets, though, the storytelling quality is strictly Dollar Tree.
 
Fuck, that is pretty brutal. The WSJ has been brutal to Disney as of late. I have to admit I am surprised the reviews out currently are very split from saying Rocket stuff great, high evo stuff great but the rest was inconsistent, as it feels smushed in. I worry about what that will do to the post-opening weekend. Films like Top Gun Maverick became successful due to word of mouth and it kept carrying over.

I am eager for Monday with the box office reports for domestic as you can somewhat calculate the fallout from there. I expect about $110mil, I talked to my friend at the busier cinema in town and asked how it went. They said 10 people showed up for the midnight showing and had no pre-bookings. The city I am in is 150,000 population and due to the irregular holidays, a lot of employees are taking a full week holiday this week. He carried on to say they had lower than expected turn out since but cinema viewing here in the UK is at an all-time low. He did counter and say it's all about the movie as they still get good sales on Mario even now.

I think if the domestic is lower than 110 post 10th May we are going to see some changes. The 10th is the Disney Q call and I expect next week to have a ton of damage control. I expect we will get our judgment on whether they keep Majors then too. I cannot predict exactly what will get cut but I think they will go postal since Disney is bleeding right now.
 
I talked to my friend at the busier cinema in town and asked how it went. They said 10 people showed up for the midnight showing and had no pre-bookings. The city I am in is 150,000 population and due to the irregular holidays, a lot of employees are taking a full week holiday this week. He carried on to say they had lower than expected turn out since but cinema viewing here in the UK is at an all-time low. He did counter and say it's all about the movie as they still get good sales on Mario even now.
I think I mentioned it back then, but for Ants3, when I went the theater was almost empty. Around 30 people in the room at most.

This one? Packed.

Not calling you or your friend a liar, and the situation may be different at different places, but I think it's gonna do fine.
 
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