Brianna Wu / John Flynt - Original Thread

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What are you opinions on GamerGate and Brianna Wu / John Flynt?

  • I am of no opinion towards either.

    Votos: 104 8.6%
  • I am neutral on GamerGate, but think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votos: 631 52.1%
  • I am neutral on GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votos: 9 0.7%
  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, but still think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votos: 112 9.2%
  • I am ANTI-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votos: 37 3.1%
  • I am PRO-GamerGate, and think that Brianna Wu is a bad person.

    Votos: 309 25.5%
  • I am PRO-GamerGate, but still think that and think that Brianna Wu is just trying to get by.

    Votos: 9 0.7%

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Not at all. Seeing as how it's clearly something Flynt is ashamed of and ambivalent about, I'd be impressed that a modicum of reality had managed to penetrate that thick shell of fantasy which he surrounds himself with.

Hell, he admits his loyalty to the world of unreality proudly. From the "choose your character" piece:

"I grew up in Mississippi, but there was little I could relate to in the small-town worries of whose daughter was in which beauty pageant. Final Fantasy’s Terra, an esper raised by humans, had an internal conflict that rang fiercely true to me. Reality never stood a chance."

I don't see this as something worthy of kudos, particularly not for someone so eager to tell everyone else how to live their lives and what to think.

You missed the point of the drug addict analogy: the story you know best is surely your own, right? If it's not something to be ashamed of, and your casually throwing around the idea that pronoun mistakes, or misgendering a Metroid character, are "literally killing" people....

....don't you think you might mention your own connection to the topic?

How about she didn't tell her own story because she's not dead. I can't imagine the hysterics you goofs would be in if she dared bring up her own struggles in relation to this.

"OH MY GOD JOHN (MAN) DON'T YOU (A MAN) HAVE ANY RESPECT FROM THE DEAD????? WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO BE ABOUT YOU (WHO IS A MAN, BIRTHNAME JOHN)!!"

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B) Continually now asserts they are not trans but are in fact 100% "cis" female to use Tumblrite terminology.

When did this happen? She refers to herself as a woman, as most transwomen do. She hasn't publically acknowledged her status as cis or trans in years from what I've seen.
 
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How about she didn't tell her own story because she's not dead. I can't imagine the hysterics you goofs would be in if she dared bring up her own struggles in relation to this.

"OH MY GOD JOHN (MAN) DON'T YOU (A MAN) HAVE ANY RESPECT FROM THE DEAD????? WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO BE ABOUT YOU (WHO IS A MAN, BIRTHNAME JOHN)!!"
'Kay, I don't even understand this. Lighten up, my dear! All that fury will give you Brianna wrinkles before you know it, and that's not helping anyone's feminine mystique! :)
 
When did this happen? She refers to herself as a woman, as most transwomen do. She hasn't publically acknowledged her status as cis or trans in years from what I've seen.
People do it because she pretty much lies about her entire past.
It conflicts with her tales of growing up never seeing herself in videogames and a lifetime of getting talked down to for being a woman.
She got talked down to for being a lunatic and she liked being a girl in videogames as an opportunity to be the woman she was deep down inside. The latter I have no problem with but it doesn't make her a appropriate person to be the face of the very very serious 2015 issue of female representation in videogames.

Her feminism itself is just an opportunity to feel like a girl and get attention, so she stirs up bullshit for selfish reasons and the rest of us have to live in the aftermath of SJW attention addicts like wu so there's that. If she brought some real problems and solutions to the table it might be different.

Also it bothers her and any mention of it keeps her from using what we say as evidence of a coordinated effort to harass her and run her out of her home. She can pass a bunch of little lies all the time and then handle inconsistencies as they arise. This thread exposes all the little lies and then pairs them with one obvious easy to check truth that would make doing that more difficult. "Yeah guys i totally have an office full of people and I need VC cash to help us get into the matrix. That's all true but i was actually a man.. yeah sorry. But I wasn't a racist lunatic man who".....and so on.

Think scientology, they died after pretty much everyone already heard about them from the internet. :ween:
 
When did this happen? She refers to herself as a woman, as most transwomen do. She hasn't publically acknowledged her status as cis or trans in years from what I've seen.

Technically Wu's own supporters admit the truth without being out with it, with Arthur Chu confirming the Lolcow Wiki is accurate on Wu's deadname, Wikipedia even has the same line. Note, deadnaming is when you bring up a former trans person's identity, not "fakenaming", as in, an outright lie.

Everyone knows the truth. Wu weakly tries to deny everything as rumors and refuses to confirm it personally because Wu's house of cards depends on the illusion he never had a penis since birth, but it's a secret he's done a piss poor job of hiding, and even his closest allies know it.

Much like Shaun King absolutely refuses to get a blood test to determine if he's black or not because it would destroy his lies, Wu's lies depend on being cisgender, even if the only ones holding them together are a bunch of SJWs too scared and crazy to drop the facade.
 
Christ this thread is shit. At this point it seems to be nothing but GamerGate spastics bitching about everything Wu does.
Wu is a dumbass, not a fucking Bond villain. Everything she does isn't part of a grand conspiracy to destroy True and Honest gamers. People are saying stuff like "Wu's house of cards" ironically, like he's sitting in some shadowy underground bunker tweeting stupid shit.
Please calm the fuck down.
 
Christ this thread is shit. At this point it seems to be nothing but GamerGate spastics bitching about everything Wu does.
Wu is a dumbass, not a fucking Bond villain. Everything she does isn't part of a grand conspiracy to destroy True and Honest gamers.
Please calm the fuck down.

Every so often the thread reaches a breaking point as people start giving too much of a fuck about Wu's opinions and over-inflating her actual influence on the world.

This is a good thing. We need to drain the abscess, and then people need to calm the fuck down.
 
To get things back on track:

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http://tweetsave.com/spacekatgal/status/667892721005260800
Time to play devils advocate here.
:reality: So she retweets a GameSpot article and negatively references George Lucas. That isn't really noteworthy, it's just kind of stupid. And not even in the Hayden Black "so stupid and unfunny you laugh at the guy saying it". It's just not noteworthy at all. What makes this funny? :reality:
 
Christ this thread is shit.
It's one of the most popular threads on lolcow with a saga that gets new content daily... why's it shit?

Oh are you asking why everything she says is archived? Just because it could be interesting later if she contradicts it later, which she frequently does. Most of it is boring and not funny in any way.
 
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Time to play devils advocate here.
:reality: So she retweets a GameSpot article and negatively references George Lucas. That isn't really noteworthy, it's just kind of stupid. And not even in the Hayden Black "so stupid and unfunny you laugh at the guy saying it". It's just not noteworthy at all. What makes this funny? :reality:

Why is an autistic tranny from Virginia talking about Sonic funny? Chill dude people have different tastes.
 
First: Shame on everyone who gave YYS Islamic Content ratings for disagreement. Jesus.

Now then.

When did this happen? She refers to herself as a woman, as most transwomen do. She hasn't publically acknowledged her status as cis or trans in years from what I've seen.

Other than on Tumblr, Susan's Place, and several others where she did acknowledge her trans status, Brianna Wu generally refuses to comment on it. And that's fine, in a vacuum; it matters little to me whether she does or not when the evidence is irrefutable. As I wrote on the Wiki about this (emphasis mine):

Lolcow Wiki dijo:
For the sake of brevity and out of respect to Brianna herself, this Wiki will not get into theorycraft as to reasons Brianna may or may not have had for claiming to have been born a woman, her personal reasons for transitioning, et al. There are two very specific parts of Wu's past and transgendered status that this Wiki will choose to focus on: the fact that she is, in fact, transgendered, and the fact that she claims to have been born a woman. Likewise, it will not get into the reasons she may or may not have had for denying her relationship to her biological parents.

There are two critical reasons these must be addressed in this article, and by this wiki:

  • The second is the issue of Wu's claims to have always been a woman. Wu's problem is that, rather like Rachel Dolezal (the disgraced NAACP head who turned out to have actually been a white woman and completely fabricated her own past)[4] and Andrea Smith (a similarly-disgraced American Indian scholar who has for years claimed to be Cherokee despite being white)[5], Brianna Wu has repeatedly claimed to have had the various struggles one has as a woman - when this is patently false.
If she wishes to be considered a woman now that she has transitioned, then fair enough - Gender Dysphoria is a very real medical condition after all - but it is highly disingenuous for Brianna Wu to lie about her past, her experiences, and her identity, claiming considerable experience growing up as a woman when there is irrefutable evidence directly contradicting her claims.

Wu claiming that she was born a woman and as such has a lifetime of experience as a woman when it comes to going on about her own personal victimhood and issues is an ongoing meme. Pretty much everyone knows Wu is trans. Thing is, whilst Wu dances on the issue - never outright denying it if possible - she constantly, albeit indirectly - constantly chimes in that she, as a woman, has experiences relevant to all women. From her Wikipedia page to her articles on the Guardian, from

Brianna Wu claims to have been born a woman in her Wikipedia page, and she constantly uses her own subjective "lifetime experience" as examples of how "women in tech are marginalized." Ignoring for a moment that all evidence contradicts this and Wu gives rise to the belief of most programmers and developers that Social Justice wants to use its in-roads to gain a foothold in tech without any legitimate training, Wu constantly claims that her struggles are the same struggles all women must face. Especially women in tech!

By her own words:

Brianna Wu dijo:

Brianna Wu does this even when throwing allies under the bus:

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The issue with Wu doing this isn't really anything I particularly give a shit about, but it is important for anyone who analyzes Wu to pick up on: Wu is infamous for claiming credentials she flat-out doesn't have. She claimed SOCCON was a success when it wasn't, she claimed to have patents, degrees, and more she doesn't, and, in this same vein, her claiming to be a legit woman is yet one more example of something she claims to be and isn't. Doubtless, she has some internal justification for all this - her running meme that Trangender women are still women so none of the above matters is a pretty common defense, and to some degree, I even agree with that, but the fact that Wu is a pathological liar and self-aggrandizer means that anything she says cannot be taken at face value until analyzed further.

That's the general relevance, IMHO.

Not at all. Seeing as how it's clearly something Flynt is ashamed of and ambivalent about, I'd be impressed that a modicum of reality had managed to penetrate that thick shell of fantasy which he surrounds himself with.

Hell, he admits his loyalty to the world of unreality proudly. From the "choose your character" piece:

"I grew up in Mississippi, but there was little I could relate to in the small-town worries of whose daughter was in which beauty pageant. Final Fantasy’s Terra, an esper raised by humans, had an internal conflict that rang fiercely true to me. Reality never stood a chance."

I don't see this as something worthy of kudos, particularly not for someone so eager to tell everyone else how to live their lives and what to think.

You missed the point of the drug addict analogy: the story you know best is surely your own, right? If it's not something to be ashamed of, and your casually throwing around the idea that pronoun mistakes, or misgendering a Metroid character, are "literally killing" people....

....don't you think you might mention your own connection to the topic?

Q-Bert, chill out. Seriously. I don't disagree with you, but there's no need to be heavy-handed here: YYS has valid analysis to give and is trying to promote dialogue. The dude already dug up the critical EIN info on Giant SpaceKat Studios, and how it's a subsidiary of Chessboard Holdings, LLC. He's been a credit to thread and we should take the opportunity to analyze what he brings to the table.

Christ this thread is shit. At this point it seems to be nothing but GamerGate spastics bitching about everything Wu does.
Wu is a dumbass, not a fucking Bond villain. Everything she does isn't part of a grand conspiracy to destroy True and Honest gamers. People are saying stuff like "Wu's house of cards" ironically, like he's sitting in some shadowy underground bunker tweeting stupid shit.
Please calm the fuck down.

I could direct you to the section a bit earlier: The most entertaining reveal recently is that Holiday is Wu's Sonichu and by her own admission something she's wanted since she was eight. An ongoing joke, since this thread started, was that Brianna Wu is essentially Chris with a budget; there is nothing that gives credence to that like Revolution 60.
 
Technically Wu's own supporters admit the truth without being out with it, with Arthur Chu confirming the Lolcow Wiki is accurate on Wu's deadname, Wikipedia even has the same line. Note, deadnaming is when you bring up a former trans person's identity, not "fakenaming", as in, an outright lie.

Everyone knows the truth. Wu weakly tries to deny everything as rumors and refuses to confirm it personally because Wu's house of cards depends on the illusion he never had a penis since birth, but it's a secret he's done a piss poor job of hiding, and even his closest allies know it.

Much like Shaun King absolutely refuses to get a blood test to determine if he's black or not because it would destroy his lies, Wu's lies depend on being cisgender, even if the only ones holding them together are a bunch of SJWs too scared and crazy to drop the facade.

The only time I recall her stating she was Cis was on a livejournal screenshot from like 7 years ago where she referred to her sex change as a "urinal tract" surgery. Nothing she says hinges on her being a female because in the circles that she runs in, she is a female. Even if she still had a dick in between her legs, she would still be a female among her cohorts. If anything, her pontificating on trans issues hinges more on the fact that she's transgendered, which again, everyone knows.
 
One of Wu's major lolcow qualities is she lies. She lies so often that people found if they looked at her old tweets she would blatantly contradict more recent claims. When Wu realized people were doing this she'd sometimes delete tweets an hour or so after making them so people started to archive and screenshot them. It also created a way to link what possibly stupid stuff Wu is saying without having to worry about it getting burned. If someone used the phrase "house of cards" when it comes to Wu then it's since many of their lies are interlaced and depend on one another. This doesn't mean Wu is smart because quite honestly a bit of the stuff she's lied about is only relevant because she's bothering to lie about it.

That leads to Wu being transgendered and why it keeps being brought up. Wu's entire image is "I'm a woman in tech" and she spends her time giving speeches based on her experience as a woman in the tech indistry. The problem is Brianna hasn't been a woman very long and her experience in the tech industry is based on a self-funded project with contracted help. This is like someone opening a lemonade stand a week ago and now presenting themselves as an expert in the fruit industry. Or like me claiming to be an English literature professor when I can't make a metaphor worth shit.

Edit: Shit. I meant simile.
 
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One of Wu's major lolcow qualities is she lies. She lies so often that people found if they looked at her old tweets she would blatantly contract more recent claims. When Wu realized people were doing this she'd sometimes delete tweets an hour or so after making them so people started to archive and screenshot them. It also created a way to link what possibly stupid stuff Wu is saying without having to worry about it getting burned. If someone used the phrase "house of cards" when it comes to Wu then it's since many of their lies are interlaced and depend on one another. This doesn't mean Wu is smart because quite honestly a bit of the stuff she's lied about is only relevant because she's bothering to lie about it.

That leads to Wu being transgendered and why it keeps being brought up. Wu's entire image is "I'm a woman in tech" and she spends her time giving speeches based on her experience as a woman in the tech indistry. The problem is Brianna hasn't been a woman very long and her experience in the tech industry is based on a self-funded project with contracted help. This is like someone opening a lemonade stand a week ago and now presenting themselves as an expert in the fruit industry. Or like me claiming to be an English literature professor when I can't make a metaphor worth shit.

Edit: Shit. I meant simile.
I am not entirely sure, if Wu would loose her support and her tugboat, or if she manages to turn her 'transness' into more money and support. I can see it go either way. The SJWs are crazy enough to throw dollars at a Trans-Wu, who claims that she wasn't coming out as such, because she had proof that #GameGate would've launched a ballistic missile to kill her already dead dogs or something.

However, Wu would burn every ounce of (fake) professional credibility she may has left in the field.
Every interview, every panel she was on, every con that allowed her onto the stage to tell her victim-narrative would look bad in hindsight.
They all would suddenly have to admit, that they let a crazy trans-gendered person onto the stage, who claimed to have lived with misogyny all her life - but obviously didn't. And looking at a video of Wu talking, should be enough for everyone to dissuade them from inviting Wu to their con, which these people apparently didn't do. Wu would get flagged as a hot potato, that hurts the credibility of your con/happening if you invite her, which would lead to Wu not getting invited anymore.
 
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Fallout 4 has destroyed your ability to release Rev60

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No John, being born later does not mysteriously alter the definition of "prequel".

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