Incels.is (Previously known as /r/incels) - Subreddit's banned, entitled Manchildren whine about why they can't get laid.

If you really had to who would you sex?


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Escortcels are a thing
Yeah and Yarrow Brown thinks her gender is a plant. Doesn't mean its real or we should entertain it for one second.

Tammy Slaton exists. She will fuck literally anyone who shows up at her door. Incels are not real. Want sex? Go fuck Tammy. Otherwise, you have voluntarily chosen to be celibate.
 
Life is long, though. Ridiculously long. Sure, maybe you get to your thirties without sex, that seems within the realm of a bad bout of sustained misfortune. But to your forties? Fifties? So much shit happens to anyone during those decades. To still be a virgin at that point, you pretty much have to be actively avoiding women/friends/life.
I was just trying to think how many people I know since I moved here 5 years ago. Counting all the people whose emails or phone numbers I have, I think it's one. I sometimes (pre-plague) go to a group associated with one of my hobbies, so I maybe could recognize as many as 15 people in the county. Obviously no women, since none of my hobbies have even 5% representation.
 
I was just trying to think how many people I know since I moved here 5 years ago. Counting all the people whose emails or phone numbers I have, I think it's one. I sometimes (pre-plague) go to a group associated with one of my hobbies, so I maybe could recognize as many as 15 people in the county. Obviously no women, since none of my hobbies have even 5% representation.
Whose fault is that?
 
theres way too many "cels" for its own good, idk why uglycel is different from haircel for example
And when they go to jail they can be prisoncels.

I have yet to meet anyone like this IRL though. I've known people that I suspected were probably incels since they were an unholy combination of ugly, awkward and unfunny, and they never seemed to have women around; only to be blindsided years later when I'm hearing about their weddings or the birth of their kid through the grapevine. I've met plenty of late bloomers, for sure. But I've never IRL met anyone that desperately wanted a relationship or sex, and didn't end up getting those things eventually. In fact if it weren't for this thread (and forum) I'd have trouble believing incels exist at all.

Also, giving up on things is gay. This life's all you get, and you owe it to yourself to chase down the things you want with all of the ferocity of a rabid beast, and to be a stubborn nuisance of a jackass right up until your dying breath. Nobody who gives up, or "settles", or "owns it" is ever actually at peace with their choice, so why bother with the facade?


Life is long, though. Ridiculously long. Sure, maybe you get to your thirties without sex, that seems within the realm of a bad bout of sustained misfortune. But to your forties? Fifties? So much shit happens to anyone during those decades. To still be a virgin at that point, you pretty much have to be actively avoiding women/friends/life.

Honestly it probably is kind of rare to meet someone that hopeless but they do exist. A lot of the younger members of the incel forums are probably just the type who doesn't know how to get what they want or they have social anxiety and other issues. As far as the older members go, who knows? I can't imagine any parent allowing their kid to be a NEET until 30+ but I'm sure they exist.

As far as being single goes you gotta make peace with it whether or not you want to. I know that casual sex exists but it's not for everyone. Either way it's probably good to take up something that is not related to dating or sex, literally any other interest is good to have. It might not get you laid but at least you have more to live for. Having an interest in weightlifting or anime or whatever will at least make you feel better if nothing else.

I'm not for sure if a man must fit certain criteria or not for women to want to date them, but honestly some traits are better than others. Society needs to stop lying to undesirable men and telling them they have a chance at all.
 
So basically a cult leader who forbids television or pornography for his followers but indulges in both when nobody's looking, gotcha.
Not sure if you're fully in the loop of autistic incel lore. AFAIK back during the era of Sluthate in 2014, he admitted to sleeping with a borderline elderly woman on his account there. Here's the Incelwiki article on the guy if you're wondering



Since there hasn't been any forum screencaps recently.....
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hey, can we start getting into international incels? im pretty sure there are tons of incels in the japanese sphere, chinese and indian spheres.
there is a lot of incel like talk when it comes to White male, asian female relationships.
this one literally uses the word Pinkoid

im like 90% sure all these people in the comments are coping incels in this subreddit.
 
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Not sure if you're fully in the loop of autistic incel lore. AFAIK back during the era of Sluthate in 2014, he admitted to sleeping with a borderline elderly woman on his account there. Here's the Incelwiki article on the guy if you're wondering

I genuinely like FACEandLMS as a content creator (not so much as a person). He has a nice voice, a... unique visual style and sense of humor; and his self-loathing actually evokes pathos instead of making you want to crush his nuts into paste. It also helps that he can laugh at himself to an extent. His (now-deleted) reddit account was full of gems.

Guy is an example of genuine potential bogged down by the incel label. He would probably find success if he shifted his content's focus to any other subject.
 
Not sure if you're fully in the loop of autistic incel lore. AFAIK back during the era of Sluthate in 2014, he admitted to sleeping with a borderline elderly woman on his account there. Here's the Incelwiki article on the guy if you're wondering



Since there hasn't been any forum screencaps recently.....
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I don't remember if he was one of the people who invaded our board in 2015. But he sounds like he banged someone's grandma just to get it out of his system at the time.


hey, can we start getting into international incels? im pretty sure there are tons of incels in the japanese sphere, chinese and indian spheres.
there is a lot of incel like talk when it comes to White male, asian female relationships.
this one literally uses the word Pinkoid

im like 90% sure all these people in the comments are coping incels in this subreddit.
I've heard of the herbivore male phenomenon but I never thought it'd turn out like this. Still with the depiction of WMAF couples in media and stuff I kinda get it.

That being said, being a Redditor is probably worse than being an incel.

That's a lot of words for "Women won't fuck me because I don't wipe my ass"
And once they figure out how to use toilet paper they'll bitch about it when women aren't suddenly attracted to them for not having a shitty asshole.

The biggest thing is that they don't understand that the hygiene and behavior is just bare minimum for interaction with others not something that will automatically get you laid.
 
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Apparently the owners of incels.is (and sanctionedsuicide) wrote a letter to Attorney General Garland, defending their God-given constitutional right to smooth-talk little girls into minecrafting themselves.
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December 30, 2021
The Honorable Merrick B. Garland
Office of the Attorney General
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20530

CC: See Appendix

Re: Sanctioned Suicide

Dear Attorney General Garland,

This letter refers to the December 21, 2021 correspondence to you from several members of the U.S. House of Representatives. It is likely that you have already received numerous comments from advocacy groups, technology companies, and members of the public. We write to you regarding this issue as a group of involuntary celibates (“incels”) who are familiar with the
former site operators of Sanctioned Suicide and many of its members.

Pro-suicide viewpoints are protected by the First Amendment

Those who oppose the speech rights of Sanctioned Suicide users blithely dismiss the First Amendment. Disappointingly, neither the New York Times (an institution whose journalism admirably shaped free speech jurisprudence throughout U.S. history) nor other detractors engage in any discussion of freedom of expression. Rather, they start with the wholly conclusory and meritless premise that the speech of Sanctioned Suicide members is so outrageous that it must be constitutionally proscribable. They also imply that because authorities in Australia, Germany, and Italy have restricted access to Sanctioned Suicide, the U.S. Government should follow suit. That is an misguided view; Mr. Attorney General, you surely agree that the DOJ should uphold American legal principles instead of deferring to foreign authorities.

As you are well aware, the First Amendment provides that “Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech”. This is fundamental to the American way of life: “It is through speech that our convictions and beliefs are influenced, expressed, and tested...It is through speech that our personalities are formed and expressed.” Not once has the Supreme Court held
the discussion of suicide to be one of the “well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech that are “historical[ly] and traditional[ly]” unprotected. There exists no federal statute which criminalizes the act of suicide, so the expression of pro-suicide viewpoints, however morally odious they may seem, simply cannot be categorized as the constitutionally proscribable
“incitement to imminent lawless action” or as speech integral to criminal conduct. Some medical and social care professionals may consider certain speech to be unsavory or even unhealthy. But even that is no legitimate rationale to exclude such speech from any First Amendment consideration altogether. As Chief Justice Roberts noted, “[t]he First Amendment’s guarantee of free speech does not extend only to categories of speech that survive an ad hoc balancing of relative social costs and benefits. The First Amendment itself reflects a judgment by the American people that the benefits of its restrictions on the Government outweigh the costs.

Congress should uphold, not challenge, their constituents’ First Amendment rights

Since no existing federal criminal law prohibits the advocacy of suicide, members of Congress ask you which actions they can take to “give the DOJ the authority necessary to prosecute the Sanctioned Suicide website owners and delist the site in the United States”. Quite frankly, such an inquiry reflects their contemptuous disdain for their own constituents’ speech rights. No reasonable statute can possibly be constructed to allow the delisting of Sanctioned Suicide, and the prosecution of its current or former site operators, without infringing on the United States Constitution.

“[Als a general matter, the First Amendment means that government has no power to restrict expression because of its message, its ideas, its subject matter, or its content.” Any law prohibiting speech on the basis of its content is therefore “presumptively invalid” and subject to strict scrutiny. Here, by considering the suppression of particular pro-suicide speech, members of Congress ask the DOJ to engage in viewpoint discrimination, a “more blatant” and “egregious” form of content discrimination. “The government must abstain from regulating speech when the specific motivating ideology or the opinion or perspective of the speaker is the rationale for the restriction.”

Needless to say, strict scrutiny requires government action to satisfy a “compelling state interest” in a “narrowly tailored” manner and via the “least restrictive means”. We can arrive at a common understanding that suicide prevention is a “compelling state interest”. Nonetheless, the implied policy proposals of Sanctioned Suicide’s detractors fail the other prongs.

The potential criminalization of pro-suicide speech, such as that found on Sanctioned Suicide, would be startling in its overbreadth. This would be flatly unconstitutional. “The Government may not suppress lawful speech as the means to suppress unlawful speech.” Taken to its extremes, would a teenager face the weight of a federal criminal prosecution for typing “kys” during a heated match of Call of Duty? A law holding site operators criminally liable for the pro-suicide speech of site users would be similarly, if not more, absurd. Simply put, such an action would encourage larger social media platforms (“the modern public square”) to over-censor
even general discussion of depression and suicide. This chilling effect to Americans’ ability to discuss their mental health difficulties, an issue still considered taboo by many, would be unimaginable and counterproductive.

In no way, shape, or form would the criminalization of pro-suicide speech constitute the “least restrictive means” for the Government to achieve its interest in suicide prevention. A remedy to disagreeable speech is counterspeech. “[T]o avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence...[sJuch must be the rule if authority is
to be reconciled with freedom.” “The theory of our Constitution is ‘that the best test of truth is the power of the thought to get itself accepted in the competition of the market.”

Members of Congress claim to be deeply disturbed that Sanctioned Suicide receives four times the page views as the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline. Clearly, a less restrictive and perfectly constitutional remedy is to appropriate funds to the Department of Health and Human Services to promote the Lifeline. Likewise, Congress can pursue its compelling interest in suicide prevention via the many institutions whose budgets they control, e.g. the National Institutes of Health for research, the Department of Education for K-12 counseling grants, Veterans Affairs. Instead of seeking ways to criminalize protected speech, members of Congress should perhaps ask why, in such an economically developed and heavily policed society, many of their constituents feel so hopelessly wretched and miserable.

Conclusion

Mr. Attorney General, we are confident you will fully consider the First Amendment in your answer to the December 21, 2021 correspondence from Congress. The late Justice Brennan, whom you clerked for, fundamentally reshaped free speech jurisprudence for the better during his 34-year tenure on the Supreme Court bench. We know that your Office will respect the Court’s decisions.

As incels, we are no stranger to claims that our own speech, occasionally unpopular and inflammatory, deserves censorship; notwithstanding the Constitution’s requirement that the government demonstrate “more than a mere desire to avoid the discomfort and unpleasantness that always accompany an unpopular viewpoint” to justify its prohibition of expressive conduct. "[T]he fact that society may find speech offensive is not a sufficient reason for suppressing it." For this reason, many incels strongly value civil liberties and the rule of law. We write this letter to outline our view on the First Amendment rights of those at Sanctioned
Suicide, because we believe in a system of government where individuals have an opportunity to speak freely, especially before the government makes a decision about their lives.

Best Regards,
[REDACTED]

Credit for the archive goes to infamous dwarf Fredrick Brennan. He/she/they thought the letter "will be historically important" and couldn't resist the opportunity to use it to try and besmirch Dear Leader, since apparently @Null is the only person ever that understands free speech law and has used Xenforo.
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