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I once worked with a guy who did shoot himself in the head. Attempted suicide. Really sad sort of affairs.

He didn't really have scars, but one arm would flail about randomly, and was basically useless. His head would twitch. Speech wasn't too affected. He could take orders (fast food) but only on the front register, drive-thru was far too much for him (drive-thru is hard as hell FYI). He would do menial tasks aside from cashier, but he'd forget things like washing his hands after handling money, so he couldn't help with the food. It obviously did quite a number on him, but he was really nice and never complained about his disabilities. Hard worker, to the best of his ability.

Similarly, brother of a good friend tried to off himself similarly. No wild "that dude shot himself in the head" scars, he just looked like he got the shit kicked out of him one too many times.

Nice guy, otherwise.

I'm sorry they went through that. Even though now I know it's possible to not have a scar from something like that, that wasn't the case with the guy I mentioned. He admitted to lying about it for attention. His lie was also VERY bad. Before he admitted that he was lying, he had said he survived because his jaw bone had such pure Slavic strength that it stopped the bullet. Also ignore that the gun was supposedly pointed at his temple. Yes, this all sounds like a joke but it wasn't one. He was serious.
 
Does "patriarchy" just mean "men can be bad to women"? I thought it was meant to be a system of consolidated power and oppression and shit.

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Life is unfair and some people are crazy assholes, but that doesn't mean there's necessarily a systemic structure of oppression going on.
There is an actual systemic structure of oppression "going on," though.

Women originally had no rights in this country, and women were considered to be the property of men and not properly "people" the way men were. It was only in the 1850s that women gained the right to have visitation or custody of their children after divorce, and prior to that it was not even a question that the children would stay with the father and the mother would never see them again if he didn't allow it (and he typically didn't). We only gained the right to vote in 1920. We gained the right to have our own bank account in the 1960s - and the right to our own credit cards in 1974. It took until 1978 for the Pregnancy Discrimination Act to be passed, making the extremely common practice of forcing women out of the workplace as soon as they became pregnant illegal. Sexual harassment was not a crime until 1964. It was 1993 before the entire US agreed that women who were married could be raped by their husbands and that it should be a crime for them to do so. I could go on all day describing the rights that women have had to fight for and have only gotten within the last hundred or so years - rights that men have had for hundreds if not thousands of years. Is this not evidence of a systemic structure of oppression, the fact that women had to fight to be allowed even these most basic of rights such as the right not to be raped and to be able to determine for themselves whether or not they wanted to be stay at home parents or continue working? To own a bank account, to be free from sexual harassment? To vote?

To this day, women are consistently barred entry into most prestigious jobs and fields of study in favor of men, and despite being a little over 50% of the population, women hold less than 25% of government positions in the US. A woman has never been president, and we got our very first female vice president during this term. Women constitute less than 25% of judges. Of CEOs of Fortune 500 companies, under 8% are female. Male doctors outnumber female doctors by a ratio of over 3:1. Women are consistently pushed out of male-dominated fields (think engineering, the hard sciences) by means of bullying and sexual harassment, which is almost never punished. Additionally, fields dominated by women are considered to be "lesser" than those dominated by men and command significantly less pay, respect and prestige; Fields that were dominated by women in the past that are now male-dominated (such as computer programming) see a vast increase in pay, respect and prestige once the women are pushed out by the men; Conversely, fields that were dominated by men that become female-dominated (think teaching, biology) see a vast decrease in pay, respect and prestige. Men in female-dominated fields (male teachers, nurses) are paid better than their female peers and are promoted more quickly. Whether in male or female dominated fields, the leaders in the field (managers, bosses, CEOs) all tend to be male. The pay gap still exists, with women making roughly 80% of what men make, regardless of what field they are in.

Women are still considered the default and primary parents in ways that seriously negatively effect them. For example, during covid shutdowns, over 800,000 women left the workforce in September 2020 alone. At the same time, men picked up jobs. Women were not only being laid off and fired at significantly higher rates than men, but also were vastly more likely to be pushed to quit their jobs in order to perform childcare and homeschooling duties when the schools and daycares shut down. Considering the ways in which the economic system punishes women who leave the workforce at any time and for any reason to do with having children, such as taking maternity leave or being a SAHM until the children begin school, this obviously has a seriously detrimental effect on the positions and future earnings of almost one million women that men do not suffer because men are not expected to give up their jobs to provide childcare when schools and daycares are not an option. Mothers are also more often the ones who have to take time off if the kids are sick, to attend school functions, etc. and schools are more likely to call the mother if they need a parent to come pick up a child or attend to a situation even if the mother is working full time and the father is not, all of which has a negative effect on the woman's career.

Additionally, women are discriminated against in medicine overall. Women are markedly less likely to be believed by doctors when they discuss their issues, more likely to be handwaved off, and more likely to have their pain and suffering dismissed as "mental illness". Women's pain is taken less seriously than men's pain, and they are less likely to be prescribed painkillers. Medicines and treatments are almost universally trialed only on men, which causes issues for women who have unexpected side effects. Obstetric violence - that is, the abuse of women who are in the process of giving birth - is rampant and goes completely unpunished. The maternal mortality rate in the US is among the highest in the developed world, largely due to lack of adequate care and (primarily male) doctors not believing women about their own symptoms and pain.

In the area of actual mental health issues... well, women used to literally be lobotomized if they failed to quietly and nicely perform their expected household duties, got upset if their husband raped them, and so on. Medically unnecessary electro-shock therapy, sexual assault as "treatment" (when doctors would use vibrators on unwilling women in order to "treat" their depression), etc. were also all used to torture women who did not fulfill their societal role with a smile. Women who are mentally ill are discriminated against within the system, even today, with things like performing expectations of femininity such as wearing makeup and shaving their legs being held as signs of how their mental health is doing, with women who refuse to shave or wear makeup reporting that their stays in in-patient care were lengthened and they were specifically told that the doctors did not believe they were getting better due solely to their refusal to perform femininity. Women still struggle to be taken seriously regarding their mental health issues.

Let's... not get into the plastic surgery industry and the way they prey on young women and girls (they have TikTok accounts now!) and "train" them seek out cosmetic surgeries that can leave them without sexual sensation, with painful nerve damage, etc. I would be here all week.

Rape is at epidemic levels pretty much everywhere in the world. Femicide - the targeted murder of women and girls - is epidemic all over the world. Trafficking, which primarily targets women and female children, is rampant all over the US and the world. In many countries, sex-selective abortion and the murder of female infants due to the perception that they are "worthless" and that male children are more valuable has led to a deficit of millions of women who should be alive today. Child marriage, which virtually always involves a female child and a male adult, is legal and happens in nearly all of the world, including in the US where, so long as the parents consent, children are legally permitted to be married off as young as twelve. Pornography is rampant and all of the most popular categories involve women being degraded, beaten and raped by men, including men pretending to be male relatives, and this is seen as socially acceptable.

Look at all of this - and there is more, there is so much more, I could go on for hours about this but I have food waiting - and tell me that the patriarchy doesn't exist, that there is no systemic structure of oppression. When women have had to fight for decades just to get the basic human rights that men have enjoyed for thousands of years. When women are still oppressed and discriminated against in virtually every area of society. When the rape of women (by men) is epidemic, and every man has hundreds of thousands of videos of women being degraded, beaten and raped by men accessible on his cellphone at all times. When women are still barred from accessing positions of power in practically every area and industry.

I want to note that I did y'all a kindness by focusing primarily on issues that still currently exist, and did not dip into the background of patriarchy and its evolution over past centuries. Because that would have taken way, way too long and it is a dang holiday. Go eat some turkey!
 
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“being trans is not a pathology.”
What the fuck is it then? Deciding to lop off your body-parts, take hormone cocktails for the rest of your life, and demanding that entire universe play along with you ISN’T crazy?
 
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I wanted to do a little digging and see the stunning and brave mugs behind these anime girl picrew pfp’s but I have better things to do and I know they’re ugly goblins anyway. Happy Thanksgiving to all the American and Canadian farmers!
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If you're worried about overeating today, I got you.

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What the fuck am I even looking at? Is that supposed to be his clit or his labia? :cryblood:

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I'm more concerned about those weird growths than the fact he's pissing out of a hole in his labia.
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I love this sub. It never fails to make me laugh.

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If I were him, I would be more concerned about my flat, manly buttocks than my shoulders. Hank Hill looking MF.

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What the fuck am I even looking at? Is that supposed to be his clit or his labia? :cryblood:

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I'm more concerned about those weird growths than the fact he's pissing out of a hole in his labia.
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I love this sub. It never fails to make me laugh.


If I were him, I would be more concerned about my flat, manly buttocks than my shoulders. Hank Hill looking MF.

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I was not prepared, dear god.

No kiwifarms before dinner.
 
@Sourceress - that's exactly what I'm talking about. You're throwing every bad or arguably bad thing that could happen or might have happened to women at the wall to create a Jackson Pollock painting of misery, and giving the title "Patriarchy". :stress:

MRA guys could produce a similar litany of injustices and indignities that men suffered and continue to suffer and offer it as "proof" of how those damn feminazis are oppressing his life and his penis.

Troons, Incels and Hoteps do the exact same shit to keep their grievances warm. Looking at the world thru this lens must be exhausting, and people from 200 years ago would think we were crazy for using the supercomputer in our pocket, while sitting in our warm, comfortable, electrified homes full of food and luxuries, to complain about living in the wealthiest and freest societies humans have ever created. Imma try to be thankful instead. 🦃:hulk:

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You bastard. (:_(
 
Yeah, I'm a Britbong so in my country Catholics are a minority. (although we're growing - lots of immigrants to the UK are Catholic, and many people, like me, convert).

I heard about that. Was that the bishop of Málaga or am I thinking of someone else?
Spoilered to avoid derailing
The bishop of Solsona was involved in promoting conversion therapies and quit in 2012, apparently he was gay and submitted himself to them (link). In 2019 it was found that under the protection of the bishop of Alcalá they were secretly running one of those programs in his diocesis (link). The bishop of San Sebastián also defends homosexuality can be "cured" (link from 2018 ) . The archbishop of Granada also holds this line I think.

At the same time, however, in the last month or so the Spanish Church (following the Vatican's lead I believe) has for the first time officially condemned conversation therapy. So the official line is changing, although they have a lot of hard-liners in positions of power.

Opus Dei and Kikos (Neocatechumenal Way) are sects that just do their own thing though.
 
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Lesbian erasure has a face. And the second one … uhhhh, sucks for you? I would think NOT having to adjust is a bonus, but okay. Probably not validating. But like, keep agonizing, it‘s surely devastating.
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From a distance the facial hair growth would fool me, but why does it look glued on up close? Is that a common ftm thing? 🤔
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What the fuck am I even looking at? Is that supposed to be his clit or his labia? :cryblood:

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I'm more concerned about those weird growths than the fact he's pissing out of a hole in his labia.
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The first one looks like a nature documentary on snail sex - narrated by David Attenborough! Hehehe, looks like it hurts. Second one is hilarious. Just some ballsack folds they forgot to iron when stapling them together.
 
Related: tranny surgery business is worth $200B
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When all your patients end up suiciding anyway, they can't sue you
That’s why clinics and hormone manufacturers lobbied to get transgenderism changed from being a mental illness, when it clearly is one. Makes it extremely difficult for doctors to be sued by patients, strips away any reluctance doctors might have to prescribe hormones or recommend surgery.
 
That’s why clinics and hormone manufacturers lobbied to get transgenderism changed from being a mental illness, when it clearly is one. Makes it extremely difficult for doctors to be sued by patients, strips away any reluctance doctors might have to prescribe hormones or recommend surgery.
How does that work though? A doctor can't prescribe drugs for fun, something needs to be a recognized medical condition at some stage for them to write a script for it.
 
How does that work though? A doctor can't prescribe drugs for fun, something needs to be a recognized medical condition at some stage for them to write a script for it.
Don‘t some of them fudge diagnostics for that? Like saying that a female adolescent is developing „malformed“ breast tissue instead of natural development so they can hack it.
 
41% is seriously not enough. This is the equivalent of me taping a condom to my pooch and crying because I can’t nut in it.

And the transplant reply is so pathetically brain dead. It is literally so hilariously telling how little they know about the female anatomy because they think a uterus transplant is all it takes to successfully carry a fetus to term. I could go on and on about why it is impossible for a male body to take on such a burden, from hormone regulation to extreme physical adjustments the body contorts to just so the baby doesn’t crush their other organs. These are the same people who think their second butthole is a vagina though. Any amount of education would be wasted breath.

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@Sourceress - that's exactly what I'm talking about. You're throwing every bad or arguably bad thing that could happen or might have happened to women at the wall to create a Jackson Pollock painting of misery, and giving the title "Patriarchy". :stress:

MRA guys could produce a similar litany of injustices and indignities that men suffered and continue to suffer and offer it as "proof" of how those damn feminazis are oppressing his life and his penis.

Troons, Incels and Hoteps do the exact same shit to keep their grievances warm. Looking at the world thru this lens must be exhausting, and people from 200 years ago would think we were crazy for using the supercomputer in our pocket, while sitting in our warm, comfortable, electrified homes full of food and luxuries, to complain about living in the wealthiest and freest societies humans have ever created. Imma try to be thankful instead. 🦃:hulk:



You bastard. (:_(
This is like comparing a stubbed toe to getting your feet bound. Yea they both hurt but one hurts way more than the other and you are now maimed for life. You keep saying that MRAs can produce these arguments that will be comparable to all of women's oppression. That's a bold statement, so what are they?

What evil has men suffered from women that can be comparable to rape, lack of right to vote in US and major EU counties until 100 years ago, lack of job opportunities, pushed into devoting their life to childcare, killed by their families for being born a girl, lack of schooling, and more across the entire world towards women by men?

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-men and women face different societal expectations. Definitely true.
Why is it that more often that not, women have higher social expectations than men, and are shamed harder?
- men are stronger and more violent on average. Definitely true.
Why do women have to worry about men attacking them and not women attacking them? Why is there a lack of women on women crime?
- some ethnic groups, mostly Muslims from what I can gather, seem to have a thing for throwing acid at women. Definitely true.
Why do they have a thing for throwing acid at women and not men?
- crazy troons harass women. Definitely true.
Why do they choose to harass women than men? Why is it acceptable to harass women over harassing a man?

You do not ask why for these statements and think critically and that's why you do not understand. I can toss you as much evidence as you'd like but you will disagree as it doesn't match your world view and this is something you never have to worry about as you are not a woman.
 
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Don‘t some of them fudge diagnostics for that? Like saying that a female adolescent is developing „malformed“ breast tissue instead of natural development so they can hack it.
I don't think they lie that explicitly because that'll show up on records but actually, now that you mention it, California has come around to calling top surgery for TIFs "male chest reconstruction", under the absurd idea that they're "males" (they're not) and so by chopping off tits they're really reconstructing the male chest they always knew they deserved.

Hell fat guys with manboobs don't get "male chest reconstruction" paid for, their doctors just rightfully tell the fatty to lose weight. Women who want bigger tits don't get free implants like the troons do.
 
What evil has men suffered from women that can be comparable to rape, lack of right to vote in US and major EU counties until 100 years ago, lack of job opportunities, pushed into devoting their life to childcare, killed by their families for being born a girl, lack of schooling, and more across the entire world towards women by men?
Not getting a living sex toy, maid and surrogate mom (all in one) available at all times. The horror...the horror!

Also I guess it's thanksgiving. I hope none of you has troon relatives to fuck up the family meetings. Enjoy your food, you silly nerds.
 
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