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It's been interesting reading the varied responses to the death of Ted Kaczynski. I got sort of fascinated with him a little while ago, going over his old writings, like these short essays he got published in newspapers. It's just interesting to read about one of the early saboteurs of logging machinery, like Earth First!ers, but coming from a different place ideologically, and then how he escalated to bombings, like the character in one of his favourite books The Secret Agent. Plus his commitment to living life in a small hut, hunting and growing some of his own food.
As part of looking into Ted I got pretty familiar with some of his die hard fans. So, I thought I'd write this thread about them, but this is not about those who are sympathetic to Ted or agree with some of his points or ideas. This thread is rather about those who are absolutely fanatical to the man, to the point their entire lives revolve around him. I’m talking about the AnPrims, Neo-Luddites and Tedposters that treat Ted almost as a religious figure, and bring their ridiculous army whenever Ted is criticized.
Here are a few notable examples below.
Chad moved to live in India where he considers getting food poisoning from spoiled goat meat to be far superior to living in America (this actually happened).
He has a YouTube channel where he larps on about Evola, Ted, Varg and other such individuals and considers them the greatest philosophers of modern times (This includes Jaques Ellul so he’s not entirely wrong). He’s pretty much your typical pagan third positionist.
If this wasn’t enough, he has written a series of self-published books. In one book he literally discusses anime in a socio-political context. Despite claiming he doesn’t use the internet or the TV much.
In his Kaczynski book (which he boasted was the first proper look at Ted) he compares destroying the “system” to Luke Skywalker blowing up the Death Star.
Ted Kaczynski General on /pol/ was a general where people discussed Ted and technology. While claiming to be a place where pro-ted and pro-tech people could state their opinions and discuss, it was mostly made from Ted fans who wanted to get people into his ideology. Anyone who disagreed was told to “READ TED'' and slapped with the /tkg/ FAQ which was heavily skewed towards Ted.
It is no longer running on a regular basis. Afterwards, Tedposters got into a massive argument about how /tkg/ toned down the arguments and that /tkg/ “weren’t true tedposters” or “weren’t truly tedposting”
Skrbina is an academic who has spent decades trying to start up an area of propaganda, sorry, philosophy that argues against all modern technology. He discusses Ted in his classes trying to get his students on board with creating a revolution that will bring us to David's personal LARPland of medieval technology.
He tried to get elected with the Green Party once, utterly failed. You will see him praising Ted as a “revolutionary of our times” in Ted’s books, or defending him whenever there is a TV series about Ted. There is no love lost between Ted K fans however, as his book “The Metaphysics of Technology” has been criticized by Ultimo Reducto, another Ted K fan:
In the same book Skrbina calls for a ban on all guns saying the solution to guns is not “more guns, but less guns”. Ted himself is not opposed to guns and states any attempt to ban small scale technology is impractical at best.
This is pretty much what it says on the tin. It's a bunch of zealots that aim to further Ted's cause and go after anyone who dares spout heresy against Saint Uncle Ted. They have a YouTube channel where they upload interviews and public discussions which they announce on their website.
In a recent spat with a Ted Kaczynski archive, the anti-tech collective said they expected the site would soon be taken down by Fitch & Madison (the publisher of Teds books, and made of 'anti-tech revolutionaries'). This was due to claims of copyright, but also because it is made up of “pro-tech leftists” and likely because the site uploads material (some of which are his journals) that does not show Ted in the best way.
Which leads to..
Prepare yourselves for zealous snobbery of epic proportions
Ted K’s journals were bought at auction by a pretentious artist who gets paid a ton to display collections of ‘spectacle’.
At a London art gallery Danh Vo and Julie Ault put on an exhibition which included a framed single sheet of paper with Ted’s codes on it, copied down by the filmmaker James Benning:
So, after being bought at auction, the journals were being shared between this small group of artists.
And it’s obvious Julie corresponds regularly with Ted K because Ted wrote a glowing acknowledgment to her in his latest book ‘Anti-Tech Revolution’.
So, it’s highly likely that the journals are also shared between a small group of self-described ‘anti-tech revolutionaries’ like Ted K’s publishers Fitch and Madison.
In 2021, FBI scans of some of the journals were released for free online by California University.
These journals were then uploaded by the Ted Kaczynski archive mentioned. These journals, again, include things they would probably not like the public seeing.
One includes Ted planning to torture animals:
Which he later admitted to ‘succeeding’ in doing to a bunch of animals including dogs and squirrels:
Another includes Ted thinking about killing a 3 year old girl he was aiming at with his gun:
The archive was then threatened with being taken down as two DMCA’s were sent to the server owners and domain provider, with a lawyer specializing in copyright law CC’d in.
Around the same time, some luddite ignoramus tried to bait who they thought the website owner was into revealing themselves, but when that failed, they just resorted to weak ass internet threats:
It’s obviously amusing to see a bunch of luddites opportunistically use copyright law to control how Ted’s work is distributed.
Even funnier is when it results in them eating their own, as happened with a die-hard Ted K fan who recorded a 6 hour audiobook of ‘Anti-Tech Revolution’ and then got rewarded with a DMCA, with no further explanation:
jorgecluni is very likely Alex Uziel, the president of the publishing company set up to solely publish Ted K’s books. Here’s an example of his ‘return to monkey’ posting on reddit of all places:
Truly, the industrial revolution and its consequences are a disaster for the human race.
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BTW I don't have the privileges to post this in Community Watch, so I wasn't sure whether to post it here or in Prospering Grounds, but if a mod thinks this would fit best somewhere else feel free to move it.
Edit: Ok cool Prospering Grounds it is, I can keep updating the thread and open to ideas for adding more stuff.
As part of looking into Ted I got pretty familiar with some of his die hard fans. So, I thought I'd write this thread about them, but this is not about those who are sympathetic to Ted or agree with some of his points or ideas. This thread is rather about those who are absolutely fanatical to the man, to the point their entire lives revolve around him. I’m talking about the AnPrims, Neo-Luddites and Tedposters that treat Ted almost as a religious figure, and bring their ridiculous army whenever Ted is criticized.
Here are a few notable examples below.
Chad A Haag
Chad moved to live in India where he considers getting food poisoning from spoiled goat meat to be far superior to living in America (this actually happened).
He has a YouTube channel where he larps on about Evola, Ted, Varg and other such individuals and considers them the greatest philosophers of modern times (This includes Jaques Ellul so he’s not entirely wrong). He’s pretty much your typical pagan third positionist.
If this wasn’t enough, he has written a series of self-published books. In one book he literally discusses anime in a socio-political context. Despite claiming he doesn’t use the internet or the TV much.
In his Kaczynski book (which he boasted was the first proper look at Ted) he compares destroying the “system” to Luke Skywalker blowing up the Death Star.
/tkg/
Ted Kaczynski General on /pol/ was a general where people discussed Ted and technology. While claiming to be a place where pro-ted and pro-tech people could state their opinions and discuss, it was mostly made from Ted fans who wanted to get people into his ideology. Anyone who disagreed was told to “READ TED'' and slapped with the /tkg/ FAQ which was heavily skewed towards Ted.
It is no longer running on a regular basis. Afterwards, Tedposters got into a massive argument about how /tkg/ toned down the arguments and that /tkg/ “weren’t true tedposters” or “weren’t truly tedposting”
David Skrbina
Skrbina is an academic who has spent decades trying to start up an area of propaganda, sorry, philosophy that argues against all modern technology. He discusses Ted in his classes trying to get his students on board with creating a revolution that will bring us to David's personal LARPland of medieval technology.
He tried to get elected with the Green Party once, utterly failed. You will see him praising Ted as a “revolutionary of our times” in Ted’s books, or defending him whenever there is a TV series about Ted. There is no love lost between Ted K fans however, as his book “The Metaphysics of Technology” has been criticized by Ultimo Reducto, another Ted K fan:
In the same book Skrbina calls for a ban on all guns saying the solution to guns is not “more guns, but less guns”. Ted himself is not opposed to guns and states any attempt to ban small scale technology is impractical at best.
The anti tech collective
This is pretty much what it says on the tin. It's a bunch of zealots that aim to further Ted's cause and go after anyone who dares spout heresy against Saint Uncle Ted. They have a YouTube channel where they upload interviews and public discussions which they announce on their website.
In a recent spat with a Ted Kaczynski archive, the anti-tech collective said they expected the site would soon be taken down by Fitch & Madison (the publisher of Teds books, and made of 'anti-tech revolutionaries'). This was due to claims of copyright, but also because it is made up of “pro-tech leftists” and likely because the site uploads material (some of which are his journals) that does not show Ted in the best way.
Which leads to..
The supercilious spat
Prepare yourselves for zealous snobbery of epic proportions
Ted K’s journals were bought at auction by a pretentious artist who gets paid a ton to display collections of ‘spectacle’.
At a London art gallery Danh Vo and Julie Ault put on an exhibition which included a framed single sheet of paper with Ted’s codes on it, copied down by the filmmaker James Benning:
So, after being bought at auction, the journals were being shared between this small group of artists.
And it’s obvious Julie corresponds regularly with Ted K because Ted wrote a glowing acknowledgment to her in his latest book ‘Anti-Tech Revolution’.
So, it’s highly likely that the journals are also shared between a small group of self-described ‘anti-tech revolutionaries’ like Ted K’s publishers Fitch and Madison.
In 2021, FBI scans of some of the journals were released for free online by California University.
These journals were then uploaded by the Ted Kaczynski archive mentioned. These journals, again, include things they would probably not like the public seeing.
One includes Ted planning to torture animals:
Which he later admitted to ‘succeeding’ in doing to a bunch of animals including dogs and squirrels:
Another includes Ted thinking about killing a 3 year old girl he was aiming at with his gun:
The archive was then threatened with being taken down as two DMCA’s were sent to the server owners and domain provider, with a lawyer specializing in copyright law CC’d in.
Around the same time, some luddite ignoramus tried to bait who they thought the website owner was into revealing themselves, but when that failed, they just resorted to weak ass internet threats:
It’s obviously amusing to see a bunch of luddites opportunistically use copyright law to control how Ted’s work is distributed.
Even funnier is when it results in them eating their own, as happened with a die-hard Ted K fan who recorded a 6 hour audiobook of ‘Anti-Tech Revolution’ and then got rewarded with a DMCA, with no further explanation:
jorgecluni is very likely Alex Uziel, the president of the publishing company set up to solely publish Ted K’s books. Here’s an example of his ‘return to monkey’ posting on reddit of all places:
Truly, the industrial revolution and its consequences are a disaster for the human race.
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BTW I don't have the privileges to post this in Community Watch, so I wasn't sure whether to post it here or in Prospering Grounds, but if a mod thinks this would fit best somewhere else feel free to move it.
Edit: Ok cool Prospering Grounds it is, I can keep updating the thread and open to ideas for adding more stuff.
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