You thought losing sideloading was bad?

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ArgonianVoter

ArgonianVoter

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Google is phasing out anonymous app distribution, starting in 2026, they'll require devs to provide legal names, addresses, phone numbers, and email addresses to distribute apps on certified Android devices, even through alternative channels (because monopolies are so wonderful am I right?).
A new android developer console is being introduced for non-Play Store developers, which will collect this information.
and using a corporation to register in order to obscure your identity won't save you, because you still require real world information.


welcome to hell.
 
Check this article's publishing date, check the URL that it refers to in the first paragraph for source, and cross-check it with articles about Android sideloading going away.

Spoiler: it's one and the same. In the newer articles, Google is planning to "ease sideloading", but obviously they're just delaying the inevitable. They want to kill it off alongside AOSP to become another walled garden iOS hellscape, since like every other Silicon Valley corpo, they've completely lost touch with their products and their consumer bases. They can't understand why someone would choose Android over iOS and they're just shooting themselves in the foot. Not to mention how so many Android apps that handle sensitive data will either have very rudimentary root checks or will have none at all. My bank app is 99% functional when it detects root for example, and Zygisk Hide works on both that and my government app. Only the McDonalds app has stricter checks, but they're so strict it has a 3 star rating on Google Play because it doesn't work on clean unrooted phones lol.

All of this "safety and security" crap is bogus. They just don't want you to block ads, and after that they'll force even more ads. They own AdSense after all.
 
Slav Power dijo:
They just don't want you to block ads, and after that they'll force even more ads. They own AdSense after all.
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Playing whack-a-mole with adblockers is a futile game. It's a hydra in a sense.
 
Slav Power dijo:
Check this article's publishing date, check the URL that it refers to in the first paragraph for source, and cross-check it with articles about Android sideloading going away.

Spoiler: it's one and the same. In the newer articles, Google is planning to "ease sideloading", but obviously they're just delaying the inevitable. They want to kill it off alongside AOSP to become another walled garden iOS hellscape, since like every other Silicon Valley corpo, they've completely lost touch with their products and their consumer bases. They can't understand why someone would choose Android over iOS and they're just shooting themselves in the foot. Not to mention how so many Android apps that handle sensitive data will either have very rudimentary root checks or will have none at all. My bank app is 99% functional when it detects root for example, and Zygisk Hide works on both that and my government app. Only the McDonalds app has stricter checks, but they're so strict it has a 3 star rating on Google Play because it doesn't work on clean unrooted phones lol.

All of this "safety and security" crap is bogus. They just don't want you to block ads, and after that they'll force even more ads. They own AdSense after all.
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why'd you mark me as "dumb" I agree with you completely lmao, it's why i made this thread, I am AGAINST google doing this crap. devs should be annonymous if they want to be, users should be annonymous by default.
 
Ibanez RG 350EX dijo:
So there's no way to create a valid APK file at all without going through official internet-connected Google software? I don't know enough about the Android development process.
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from what i understand, android requires every apk to be signed with a security key. sideloading apps means it'll ask google if the apk signature is approved or not. if it isn't, it'll either block the install or it'll ask to jump through many hoops in order to install it. in practice, it means they want to shove ads into your rectum, and they expect you to smile about it.
fucking jews
 
Gatdam Animal Person dijo:
from what i understand, android requires every apk to be signed with a security key. sideloading apps means it'll ask google if the apk signature is approved or not. if it isn't, it'll either block the install or it'll ask to jump through many hoops in order to install it. in practice, it means they want to shove ads into your rectum, and they expect you to smile about it.
fucking jews
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I thought the real reason they wanted to crackdown on this was because epic fucked them in court and made it so 3rd party appstores need to be more easily accessible. So they're now doing an apple and locking down your ability to install apps from 3rd parties so that they can funnel everyone into their licensing system. The moment they make it so all apps require being signed by a valid developer they'll move onto step 2 where they implement a draconian apple style system where if you aren't on the ios store they charge you a fortune on the amount of profits you make outside of their playstore.
 
i hate propriejeets so fucking much bros...

if you want to install some of the neat and excellent programs from f-droid as a less-than-technically-gifted normgroid, it will soon be harder than ever. instead people will have even more incentives to install ad-riddled jeetslop off of google play and then get everybody they know on nigerian spam lists because they sent their call logs to jeet inc. from inattentive "yes" button clicking
but this is totally necessary guys because people sometimes install "100% free minecraft no virus working 2025.apk" and our signature bullshit will totally prevent this
 
Coolio55 dijo:
I'd assume that it'll just refuse to run older APKs.
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I wonder how they translate to older versions of Android though, if I'm not mistaken the app breaking Android updates would need to be installed on a newish version of Android and depend on the if the device could even be force updated to one. You could probably get away with running altered versions of Android like Lineage on older devices and use an app store like fdroid for years, afaik they'd still be usable for pretty much everything except for maybe app store games.
 
Sandshrew dijo:
It feels like every company is colluding right now, at the same time, to completely end online anonymity.
SEAmonkeys getting Internet access ruined the Internet for all of us.
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It's more of an osmosis-effect.
There is literally no marketable reason to protect user privacy and the conveniances that go with it.
There are tons of markable reasons to strip these rights away and harvest all your data, to name a few:
  1. KYC/age-restriction laws: the govt wants all this data anyway, no reason not to set up an enforced collection system.
  2. Create barriers of entry: googs can just mobilize a few jeets and vibecode this over a weekend. But do you think smaller outfits like kaiOS and Sailfish can keep up with the rate at which brussels is cranking out these rules?
  3. Resale: that data is worth money, unlike the users. GDPR tends to fall apart whenever a lawyer says the magic phrase "legitimate interest" and after that the rule is basically "Possession is 9/10ths of the law"
  4. Create a market: a ton of workarounds for google's bullshit rely on termux and youtube frontends. By banning termux you displace a large amount of people who use it for SSH and homemade python scripts (for which they don't pay) and make them install SSH apps and YT premium (for which they will pay).
There is literally nothing to gain and everything to lose for the corpos by not locking everything down.
 
They want to kill off the only clear advantage they still have over iOS. Are they stupid?
 
Zookerton dijo:
I thought the real reason they wanted to crackdown on this was because epic fucked them in court and made it so 3rd party appstores need to be more easily accessible. So they're now doing an apple and locking down your ability to install apps from 3rd parties so that they can funnel everyone into their licensing system. The moment they make it so all apps require being signed by a valid developer they'll move onto step 2 where they implement a draconian apple style system where if you aren't on the ios store they charge you a fortune on the amount of profits you make outside of their playstore.
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The impact of that lawsuit can't be understated. It was a monumentally retarded decision.

For reference, back in 2020 Epic Games filed the exact same lawsuit against Apple and Google claiming that they each held a monopoly over their respective app stores.

Google made a bunch of deals with big names where they would list exclusively on Google's store. So even though they allow sideloading and alternative stores, they still ended up losing.

Now on iOS, there is literally nothing but the App Store. No sideloading. And if you list there, you MUST use them for billing, where they take a 30% cut. You're forbidden from linking out to your website and letting users pay there. You can't even mention the existance of the 30% Apple tax without getting banned. Should be a slam dunk right? Wrong. Apple won on 9/10 counts. The judge just ordered them to let developers do billing through their own websites. Apple did this, but continued to take a 27% cut for doing nothing at all. This lead to a bitch slap from the judge, which Apple is currently appealing.

So if you're Google, the takeaway is that you might as well lock down your whole ecosystem down to iOS level. Dumbass boomer judges can't tell the difference anyway.
 
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