Wreck it Ralph 2

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I wasn't either, but that was only because it was one of the easiest cop outs one could do due to how obvious it would be.
Kinda like Chicken Little (The 1943 cartoon, not the later movie) where Foxy Loxy wins without a hassle!
 
Just came back from the movie (yes, I buckled down). I can't say I hated it, but I also can't say it was good. It's certainly the weakest of the recent Disney animated films that isn't Pixar, but I did chuckle at some points. Which is more than I can say for Emoji Movie (aside from seeing Null break when we watched that, but that wasn't in the movie itself, so...)

Most of the plot points that were revealed in the books are mostly accurate, so there's that. I think the biggest issue I have with the movie is how disjointed the whole thing is- There's the arcade stuff, BuzzTube, Slaughter Race, Oh My Disney and the Internet itself, and it all just seems like the film goes from setpiece to setpiece with just the bare minimum of effort to string them together. I also thought the whole moral of "Just 'cause you're friends with someone doesn't mean you should limit them if they have bigger aspirations" is a good one, but its execution is muddled thanks to how the film itself is strung together.
 
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Watched this cringey movie today. It the most cringeworthy thing ever made. I want to cringe out of the planet.
Oh yeah, forgot about all the cringe that happened. Including
The post-credits scene where Disney rickrolls the audience. I was this close to leaving before it came up.
 
The first half of the movie was pretty damn good, in my opinion.

The second half ... Not so much.

First off, this movie absolutely, 100% needed a villain. This movie doesn't even have one of those now-cliched "fakeout" villains that Disney has been doing in recent years. Without a villain, they kind of made Ralph the accidental villain? Whatever, it was fucking lame and forced. The movie fell apart right after the Disney Princess scene, if you ask me.

Speaking of the Disney Princesses, I thought that a lot of it was absolutely adorable. However, at the end, when they save Ralph, did we NEED the meta dialogue? No. We didn't. And it completely undercut the fun that was happening on screen. The princesses using their abilities to save Ralph would have been such a fun, cute, and cool surprise WITHOUT the whole "Look! A big, strong man needs to be rescued!" dialogue. I GET IT, DISNEY. STOP PANDERING.

Welcome to 2018, where everyone is a cynical asshole and just can't let anyone or anything be earnest anymore. Ugh.

My favorite characters from the first movie, Felix and Calhoun, are only in it for 2 minutes ... And those two minutes were hilarious. However, I'm very butthurt about their lack of screentime. The movie perfectly set up a side plot with Felix and Calhoun covering for Ralph while he and Vanelope were in the internet, but they did NOTHING with it. Once Ralph and Vanelope get to the internet, the rest of the movie is in the internet. The movie doesn't show the video game world and how they'd react to Ralph and Vanelope missing (you know, like they did in the first movie). This was a huuuuugggggeeeee narrative blunder.

The credits scenes made me laugh. Yes, even the Rick Roll. The setup for the Rick Roll made that joke. Sorry not sorry; I thought it was funny.

This movie COULD have been so much more.

In other news, I went to see Creed II on opening night. Fucking fantastic movie. Everyone should go see Creed II instead. Just sayin'.
 
The first half of the movie was pretty damn good, in my opinion.

The second half ... Not so much.

First off, this movie absolutely, 100% needed a villain. This movie doesn't even have one of those now-cliched "fakeout" villains that Disney has been doing in recent years. Without a villain, they kind of made Ralph the accidental villain? Whatever, it was fucking lame and forced. The movie fell apart right after the Disney Princess scene, if you ask me.

Speaking of the Disney Princesses, I thought that a lot of it was absolutely adorable. However, at the end, when they save Ralph, did we NEED the meta dialogue? No. We didn't. And it completely undercut the fun that was happening on screen. The princesses using their abilities to save Ralph would have been such a fun, cute, and cool surprise WITHOUT the whole "Look! A big, strong man needs to be rescued!" dialogue. I GET IT, DISNEY. STOP PANDERING.

Welcome to 2018, where everyone is a cynical asshole and just can't let anyone or anything be earnest anymore. Ugh.

My favorite characters from the first movie, Felix and Calhoun, are only in it for 2 minutes ... And those two minutes were hilarious. However, I'm very butthurt about their lack of screentime. The movie perfectly set up a side plot with Felix and Calhoun covering for Ralph while he and Vanelope were in the internet, but they did NOTHING with it. Once Ralph and Vanelope get to the internet, the rest of the movie is in the internet. The movie doesn't show the video game world and how they'd react to Ralph and Vanelope missing (you know, like they did in the first movie). This was a huuuuugggggeeeee narrative blunder.

The credits scenes made me laugh. Yes, even the Rick Roll. The setup for the Rick Roll made that joke. Sorry not sorry; I thought it was funny.

This movie COULD have been so much more.

In other news, I went to see Creed II on opening night. Fucking fantastic movie. Everyone should go see Creed II instead. Just sayin'.
...I fucking hate Disney and they don't even deserve my insults, that would mean i still cared about that company but it died years ago
:offtopic:So Creed II didn't go woke? Thank Goodness for that
 
...I fucking hate Disney and they don't even deserve my insults, that would mean i still cared about that company but it died years ago
:offtopic:So Creed II didn't go woke? Thank Goodness for that

I am a Disney fan ... But if they make a movie that sucks, I won't hesitate to say it ... And I certainly see a concerning pattern with the quality of their recent movies. I wouldn't say this movie sucked entirely, but it absolutely flatlined in the second half.

Creed II was fucking awesome from start to finish. It did not go woke. The movie was about a masculine lead character becoming his best self as an athlete, his best self as a husband, and his best self as a father. As any good Rocky movie should do, it gave me some rushes of adrenaline during the training and fighting scenes, it tugged at my heartstrings, and it was inspiring. The audience I was with in the movie theater literally cheered more than once during the climax of the movie.

Wreck-It-Ralph 2 WISHES it had as much heart as Creed II does. It's not even a fair comparison.
 
I wanna see the movie but I feel like it's just trying too hard to appeal to Facebook users who can share cute gifs. Honestly, I believe y'all that it's the weakest recent Disney movie

To be fair, I wasn't mad at most of the internet references. And trust me, when it comes to "comedy" in movies these days, I find myself fighting the urge to throw something at the screen constantly. A few of the parts made me laugh quite a bit, and a lot of it is because of Ralph and Vanelope reacting to all of the stuff. For the most part, I thought it worked (at least, it worked much better than I had expected). I don't think it's fair to call this "Emoji Movie 2."

My biggest gripe with the movie, above all else, was how the plot turned out. In the first act of the movie, they spent time setting up everything REALLY well ... But none of it really goes anywhere? Again, the stuff they set up with Felix and Calhoun would have made an amazing B Plot (which would have helped tremendously with the pacing) ... But then the B Plot never happened. And the A Plot of getting the steering wheel pretty much went nowhere? It was treated as a complete afterthought by the end of the movie. It made all of the stuff Ralph had to do to "go viral" fall flat, to be honest.
 
Does the movie explain why grown-ass adult woman Tiana is hanging out at a slumber party with a bunch of 14 year old princesses?

Actually, that reminds me. Tiana became a princess when she married Naveen. Same with Mulan, she became a de facto princess basically for marrying a war general, Shang, even though it was mainly because she saved China. And Cinderella and Belle married into royalty as well. Why aren't they with their husbands? Or hell, just about any princess who's married (which is nearly all of them) should be with their husbands instead of lounging around on beanbags and making meta-jokes about "lol men solve our problems amirite girls" on their off-time.

I was also told that there's a joke in which the other princesses can't understand Merida very well because of her Scottish accent. Like... that's supposed to be funny? Snow White (if you go off the origins of the story) is supposed to be German, so shouldn't she have a heavy accent herself, as well? Same with Jasmine, and possibly Pocahontas and Belle. Just saying, missed equal opportunity here.
 
Actually, that reminds me. Tiana became a princess when she married Naveen. Same with Mulan, she became a de facto princess basically for marrying a war general, Shang, even though it was mainly because she saved China. And Cinderella and Belle married into royalty as well. Why aren't they with their husbands? Or hell, just about any princess who's married (which is nearly all of them) should be with their husbands instead of lounging around on beanbags and making meta-jokes about "lol men solve our problems amirite girls" on their off-time.

They wouldn't, since current year Disney thinks all heterosexual relationships are evil. Better turn the princesses into Noelle Stevensons so they represent more "accurately" modern day women. (But tbh, something like a double date with Disney couples would still be silly but not as cringy as "let's make the princesses feminist role models!" as what they're doing with Ralph 2).

I was also told that there's a joke in which the other princesses can't understand Merida very well because of her Scottish accent. Like... that's supposed to be funny? Snow White (if you go off the origins of the story) is supposed to be German, so shouldn't she have a heavy accent herself, as well? Same with Jasmine, and possibly Pocahontas and Belle. Just saying, missed equal opportunity here.

She's a dirty ginger cracker. Making fun of her accent is a-ok, but god help you if you gave Tiana a negress voice or have Jasmine curse in kebabese. Otherwise it's REEEE-cist.
 
He makes a good point - if you're going to make a movie about the internet, it has to at least be rated PG-13 to get any great humor/substance out of it.

Ehhhh perhaps, but I think you can still make PG-rated jokes about the Internet that works. You'd have to beat around the bush a bit, though, but you could put a thin veil over things to squeak them by the censors that only those with intimate knowledge of the Internet could spot it immediately and know what's going on. Like the Dark Web makes an appearance for one scene filled with shady characters and someone said there was a sign that read "New credit cards made daily", meanwhile Ralph basically hired a guy who creates malicious viruses.

That's
PG-rated material that works without having to bring attention to drug and CP rings and other atrocities that happen IRL on the Dark Web. The best way to describe it is it's basically a black market with untrustworthy people, and as you're only seeing one part of it to begin with, might as well sum up the place in one simple scene. It wasn't like the whole movie was taking place in the Dark Web to begin with, which would have to be at least the PG-13 level for more adult references such as FBI-planted honeypots, as well as bringing up what goes on in the art sites, chat rooms, and imageboards up on the surface level (which I was told weren't referenced once in the film, which is disappointing). But this is Disney we're talking about, so I don't know what people were expecting outside of the more family-friendly pop culture references that normies would get. Pretty sure that even if Pepe didn't get labeled as a hate symbol, he wouldn't have showed up regardless, so...
 
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