Why men become trannies - A deeper explanation

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p00pyman dijo:
Gender dysphoria is what causes trans people. It can develop from genetics, hormonal influences during prenatal development, and environmental factors. Although environmental factors can be a reason it's a not very likely one as most gender dysphoria is experienced from early childhood with the most common age being age 7. it's dumb to blame it on certain groups of people. if anything most environmental factors include abuse from parental figures and other childhood trauma. It's very unlikely someone's gender dysphoria comes from porn or a missing father
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Late but what the hell, I'm busy AF IRL.

You seriously need to lurk more around the internet and do some research on autogynephilia before talking on any trans related topics here. The vast majority of MTF's are predatory heterosexual autogynephiles. Believe me from personal experience, AGP's known about their fetish for a long, long time and are more than happy to act on it when it suits them.
 
Legoshi dijo:
Late but what the hell, I'm busy AF IRL.

You seriously need to lurk more around the internet and do some research on autogynephilia before talking on any trans related topics here. The vast majority of MTF's are predatory heterosexual autogynephiles. Believe me from personal experience, AGP's known about their fetish for a long, long time and are more than happy to act on it when it suits them.
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I've always divided trannies into 3 subsets

The transbian 10 - 25% of trannies: the older obvious man in a dress who tries to integrate himself into lesbian spaces, mostly has a crossdressing fetish and any deeper emotions of inadequacy aren't present. Attraction focused mostly on women, rarely other trannies.

Average tranny 50 - 80% of trannies: Usually a pale skinny freak, doesn't pass but usually manages to attract a subset of fetishist. There are deeper problems with this individuals than just mere sexual degeneracy. Attraction focused on other trannies, sometimes normal men and women.

The gay 1 - 5% of trannies. passes, ropes in some some nasty pervert with him. Attracted to men, kind of simple minded.

What I was going over with my post was the "average tranny" the men who would've otherwise been normal if things have been slightly different and needed deeper manipulation from society.
 
Fundamentally, all trannies suffer from the same condition that ultimately dooms them to a life of degeneracy — a lack of pride.
This is why I always try to stress the importance of pride in one's identity and why the phenomenological relationship between pride and responsibility is what I focused on first and consider my most important work even though what I've later published is technically of greater significance, pride immunizes you against all forms of degenerate lifes styles.
If your primary focus as a parent isn't raising your children to be proud of who they are you are making a terrible mistake.
 
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I think its usually (genuine) autists who watch porn while their young, fucking up their brain and making them confused. After that they go searching online and find out that its totally normal and totally heckin' valid to feel that way and find a bunch of posts from young vulnerable people who all got roped into it just like them, going on about how "validating" (boner inducing) it is to put a skirt on. As other people probably said also the rising absent father rate, a lot of them have zero older males in their families to learn from/look up to and if they do its usually a distant uncle they see once or twice a year.

Its really easy to market cutting your dick off to a 12 year old porn obsessed freak than it is lets say, anyone over 18. A lot of them start "feeling" all this bullshit when they are super young (9-12 mostly, curious thats always when they started using the internet too.) As for the ones who get into it when they are older, no idea. I've been fortunate enough to not have learned about then against my will that much.
 
Gravityqueen4life dijo:
im starting to think being trans is the new punk or emo. kids that wants to rebel against their parents and tradition while also, being mentally and sexually confused.
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Kids got brutally raped by parents, that's why we are insane it's pretty simple, makes me wonder if you are insane.
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Biggest factors:

  1. Internet porn normalized coomerism. I'm just old enough to remember the Before Times. A guy with a big porn VHS collection who spent a lot of time jacking off was an oddball that people avoided. By about 2010, every young man's watching porn, it's become normalized, you're not embarrassed to talk about what porn you like, and you've even got women who do porn appearing in mainstream media. A huge number of trannies report getting into it via their porn tastes becoming more and more extreme. Our culture became more pornified, along with how women dress and do their make-up, people's sexual expectations, and breaking down public/private barriers around sexuality.

  2. Public fetish displays have been destigmatized. As a fetish, cross-dressing is so old it's mentioned in the Old Testament. But for most of history, you were supposed to keep your sex life private. Universal porn access helped break down that barrier. Feminism did, too, since women tend to politically support anything that removes social shaming or material consequences from sexual misbehavior. The 00s movement against "slut shaming" plays a big role here. And, as we have been forced to learn, homosexuals' lives revolve around sex (and to be fair, so would straight men's if women were as easy as queers), and public fetish displays are a big part of gay life. This creates the milieu where a coomer thinks, "Hey, I'll wear panties and a skirt to work," and then doesn't immediately think, "but then people will mock me, call me a sick pervert, and tell me to go home and change!"

  3. Gay liberation means you can't call anyone a faggot any more. Seriously, how am I supposed to be transphobic without crossing the line into homophobia? This isn't sarcasm or a joke. Gay lib means that our social rules have changed to strictly forbid any speech that even hints at suggesting being a girly guy who likes dick and wearing panties is a little weird. Gay lib means glamorizing drag queens and acting like there's nothing even funny about a guy acting swishy. If I can't call anyone a fag, I certainly can't say anything when a guy shows up to work in a stuffed bra and a wig.
 
SwanSwanson dijo:
That's certainly an aspect but its never just one thing. We've alwaya had porn but trannies weren't as big as they are now.
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Nah, twenty years ago if you wanted porn you’d have to find a VHS tape. Or a magazine. There was massive shame associated with it and it wasn’t easy to get hold of.
Now you have porn at a click, in a variety that’s very wide. That at a young age requires teenagers brains. The stuff in it is really degenerate too.
The answer is:
Porn
Fetishes not being shamed intensely
Autism
Grooming
Total lack of societal shame.
Internet allows signal boosting and congregation of the like minded
Massive funding for the tranny lobby
 
One of the strangest things with this whole trend for me is the apparent disappearance of the concept of a cross-dresser. Before, that was understood as a fairly normal and acceptable kink a man could have. It had negative stigma, but not much more than being seriously into bondage, etc. Now, if a man were to be discovered with a secret stash of lingerie for in the bedroom, he’d be immediately identified as closeted trans. I don’t know what this ultimately means, but it feels significant to understand the trans phenomenon.

It seems like should see the opposite happening where trans acceptance reduces the stigma to fetishes like that. Instead, any evidence you aren’t 100% man means you’re trans and they’ll encourage you to further and further expand your formerly private fetish
 
The Ugly One dijo:
  1. Gay liberation means you can't call anyone a faggot any more. Seriously, how am I supposed to be transphobic without crossing the line into homophobia? This isn't sarcasm or a joke. Gay lib means that our social rules have changed to strictly forbid any speech that even hints at suggesting being a girly guy who likes dick and wearing panties is a little weird. Gay lib means glamorizing drag queens and acting like there's nothing even funny about a guy acting swishy. If I can't call anyone a fag, I certainly can't say anything when a guy shows up to work in a stuffed bra and a wig.
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This is why I find "lesbians against trannies" and "gays against trannies" and general "LGB drop the T" sentinment is both hillarious and self contradictory.

They spent decades campaigning to abolish the stigmatization of degeneracy and the complete and total uprooting of chesterton's fence, their wish was granted and degeneracy was destigmatized, but holy shit, things went too far, and now their solution is to go roll progress back juuuuust back enough that their fetishes are OK, but the fetishes they personally don't like aren't.


Even if they somehow accomplish it, what exactly is stopping society from relapsing back into it? You wanted a society with sexual liberation, you can't pick and chose what liberation you want and don't want.
 
I've never bought the "men growing up in feminine environments", i.e. blame single mom's (who are single because of whorish behaviour). Wasn't the meta a few decades ago that a single mom trying to raise boys would inevitably lead to those boys doing drugs, buying motorcycles and being rebels? Because boys are boys and a single mom couldn't reign that in without a father. Without a dad around they'd find one themselves, probably an older teen that'd talk them into doing bad things, failling school, and becoming a loser in life.

I just don't see how the arguments works and it sounds like an argument that children are, regardless of sex, closer to a blank slate that imprints onto what-ever figure is around it. What particularly "femine" aspect of the mother's role, in excess, leads to a greater liklihood of becoming a tranny? If you're mom gives you too much affection you could also become, so traditional logic went, soft because you haven't had the father figure around to be strict parent and teach you hardknocks and discipline. So they're used to a being mollycoddled through habit. Not that it's rewired their brain into becoming more feminine via osmosis.

I refuse to believe that anyone, whose brain wasn't already fucked on a biological level, could go from being a straight person watching conventional pornography to eventually being a "coomer" who needs really weird male tranny gangbangs because the regular stuff just doesn't cut it anymore. The truth is that they are a fringe, fringe aspect of the population probably explained by the number of people who born bent being more visible (yes, due in part to a lack of shaming) and more numerous due to the increasing population. Nobody takes it up the ass that didn't, in some way, want it already.
 
SwanSwanson dijo:
We've alwaya had porn but trannies weren't as big as they are now.
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As an oldfag I remember having to buy porn mags in sleazy shops. The availability of porn in modern society is something different and very corrosive.

I think transgenderism is part extreme coomerism and part a spiritual crisis. It is an extreme dissatisfaction with nature, with the body and life one was given, resulting in a need to destroy one's body, to corrupt nature and the gift of life. It's demonic.
 
thrasymachus dijo:
As an oldfag I remember having to buy porn mags in sleazy shops. The availability of porn in modern society is something different and very corrosive.

I think transgenderism is part extreme coomerism and part a spiritual crisis. It is an extreme dissatisfaction with nature, with the body and life one was given, resulting in a need to destroy one's body, to corrupt nature and the gift of life. It's demonic.
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It is a bit scary. Furries weren't as big, same goes with other fetishes. There is also the fact that our attraction to the female body wasn't as "pornofied". Even in paintings of the past it depicted naked women in their completion with no hyperfocus on butt, thighs or breasts. Hopefully neo traditionalist becomes more popular in the future.
 
It really depends on what kind of trannies we are talking about since there are two categories. First world trannies and third world trannies.
Third world trannies from actively homophobic countries are men struggling with mental illness, they are the only ones i truly pity, not because of the laws and the societies, exclusively because of the vile nature of gender dysphoria.

First world trannies are simple, since most of cases there simply stem from the following: They have been brought up into a world that actively encourages it, preaching that masculinity is something that's always bad, wrong, abusive, disgusting. They have been raised by absent fathers and mothers that either abuse them or neglect them. This with combination of loneliness, self esteem issues, untreated mental illnesses leads to the craving of attention. Becoming a "hot sexy bimbo" on social media like Twatter is the easiest form of getting it along with free pity points from virtue signalling men and women that try to be "woke", along with the "culture" if you can even call it that way of transgenderism and "people" that surround it. Do not make a mistake, it is an actual cult, like many kiwis before me have already noted. Grooming is also quite popular in this context, just reading up on some troon blogposts is the easy way to come to this conclusion, leading vulnerable men to becoming one of them because we all know for a fact: misery loves company.
By their twisted logic, anything leads to you being a tranny.

No success with women?
You're trans because you do not feel like contacting women in your male body!
Successful with women?
You're trans because you are simply living your desired life through them!
Depressed?
You're depressed because you're not a woman!
You feel like you are ugly and you're disgusted when looking at a mirror?
You're mad that your body is not feminine!
Et cetera.
 
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