Why men become trannies - A deeper explanation

[p00pyman]

And what causes "dysphoria". Its a mental illness isn't it? Something must me causing it right? Illnesses don't just emerge randomly. They come from somewhere.

genetics, hormonal influences during prenatal development, and environmental factors cause it
I'm saying all of this from a medical standpoint with actual studies done behind it

https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/most-gender-dysphoria-established-by-age-7-study-finds/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK532313/

https://www.news-medical.net/health/Causes-of-Gender-Dysphoria.aspx

if you are wondering how it happens medically
"Hormones that trigger the development of sex and gender in the womb may not function adequately. This may result from the excess female hormones from the mother’s system or by the fetus’s insensitivity to the hormones" -news medical.net

 

[Had]

Gender dysphoria is what causes trans people. It can develop from genetics, hormonal influences during prenatal development, and environmental factors.

If hormonal influences are the root of the problem why not give these people the corresponding sex hormones. In males the condition of Hypogonadism (low testosterone in males) can "lead to feelings of sadness or depression". other effects include "abdominal obesity, delayed puberty, infertility, irritability and mood swings" the idea that just because someone has a hormonal imbalance makes them trans simply is untrue. The idea of transgenderism as we know it today is rooted in philosophy and psychology, i.e. how someone views themselves, otherwise we'd be able to preform an MRI or etc. and be able to assess if someone is trans or not. Even the "they feel like x" thing isn't true as "For decades, follow-up studies of transgender kids have shown that a substantial majority anywhere from 65 to 94 percent eventually ceased to identify as transgender."

TL: DR
trans issues aren't backed up by anything substantive, and are mostly nowdays a social contagion, picked up by incels.

if anything most environmental factors include abuse from parental figures and other childhood trauma. It's very unlikely someone's gender dysphoria comes from porn or a missing father

Isn't a missing father a form of "abuse from parental figures and...childhood trauma"

 

[Steven Aryan Universe]

genetics, hormonal influences during prenatal development, and environmental factors cause it
I'm saying all of this from a medical standpoint with actual studies done behind it

https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/most-gender-dysphoria-established-by-age-7-study-finds/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK532313/

https://www.news-medical.net/health/Causes-of-Gender-Dysphoria.aspx

if you are wondering how it happens medically
"Hormones that trigger the development of sex and gender in the womb may not function adequately. This may result from the excess female hormones from the mother’s system or by the fetus’s insensitivity to the hormones" -news medical.net

Go back to reddit

 

[thyme]

genetics, hormonal influences during prenatal development, and environmental factors cause it
I'm saying all of this from a medical standpoint with actual studies done behind it

https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/most-gender-dysphoria-established-by-age-7-study-finds/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK532313/

https://www.news-medical.net/health/Causes-of-Gender-Dysphoria.aspx

if you are wondering how it happens medically
"Hormones that trigger the development of sex and gender in the womb may not function adequately. This may result from the excess female hormones from the mother’s system or by the fetus’s insensitivity to the hormones" -news medical.net

Yeah go ahead and throw away your body integrity and your ability to exist without having to see a doctor and pharmacist every few weeks. It's a really fun life and I love seeing healthy people choose to make themselves sick. Instead of taking the opportunities life has available for them they give it all up so crooks can get richer, its so noble.

One of my doctors told me once that you should do every other possible thing to fix your life before trying medication for mental issues. Save up for a new place. Get a better job. Work out. Etc. She said most Americans don't try, they just want the pills. Trannies may as well be the mascot of this kind of behaviour. You just want a pile of magic pills to make everything better.

It's just frustrating watching people waste their energies and efforts on lies and nonsolutions, when there's so much more pertient shit in this world. Even shit as simple as cleaning their rooms, most can't even do that first. Why anyone would take any advice or any info from a living deadend is beyond me. Yeah I'll take advice from the girl who turned her arm flesh into a fruit roll up and shoved it down her pants, calling it a dick. Cmon.

 

[LeChampion1992]

This is what I personally witnessed in my case. It is usually because they're in a echo chamber of positive affirmation usually due to propaganda and friends circles trying to convince them to just be themselves.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Guys who identify as gals are easily autistic, and autistics can have a binary view of the sexes?

In other words, they may think the only choices are "be a gruff, brute, manly man, or be female"?



(also there's this: Who Are the Rich, White Men Institutionalizing Transgender Ideology?)

 

[gang weeder]

This is what I personally witnessed in my case. It is usually because they're in a echo chamber of positive affirmation usually due to propaganda and friends circles trying to convince them to just be themselves.

Just like any other religion, troons love to convert others to their cult. They are obsessed with "cracking eggs."

 

[Fougaro]

To repeat what I said in another sperg post, it's either dysphoria, untreated trauma or escapism in a similar vein to suicide.

 

[p00pyman]

If hormonal influences are the root of the problem why not give these people the corresponding sex hormones. In males the condition of Hypogonadism (low testosterone in males) can "lead to feelings of sadness or depression". other effects include "abdominal obesity, delayed puberty, infertility, irritability and mood swings" the idea that just because someone has a hormonal imbalance makes them trans simply is untrue. The idea of transgenderism as we know it today is rooted in philosophy and psychology, i.e. how someone views themselves, otherwise we'd be able to preform an MRI or etc. and be able to assess if someone is trans or not. Even the "they feel like x" thing isn't true as "For decades, follow-up studies of transgender kids have shown that a substantial majority anywhere from 65 to 94 percent eventually ceased to identify as transgender."

TL: DR
trans issues aren't backed up by anything substantive, and are mostly nowdays a social contagion, picked up by incels.


Isn't a missing father a form of "abuse from parental figures and...childhood trauma"

You can actually do an MRI to see if a person is trans however this technology is not yet considered conclusive.

MRI scans suggest transgender people’s brains resemble their identified gender: study - National | Globalnews.ca

The brains of transgender people who identify as men resemble biologically male brains in some ways and vice versa, research suggests.

globalnews.ca

as for
"For decades, follow-up studies of transgender kids have shown that a substantial majority anywhere from 65 to 94 percent eventually ceased to identify as transgender."
I looked into that quote and found the source isn't very credible. the article in the original research was found says that

"studies included a large cohort of children who today would not be diagnosed with gender dysphoria, gay boys who may have been experimenting with different ways of expressing gender but who were never really transgender in the first place."

“The methodology of those studies is very flawed, because they didn't study gender identity,” said Diane Ehrensaft, director of mental health at UCSF’s Child and Adolescent Gender Clinic. “Those desistors were, a good majority of them, simply proto-gay boys whose parents were upset because they were boys wearing dresses. They were brought to the clinics because they weren't fitting gender norms.”

https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/44...l-research-on-desistance-in-transgender-youth

 

[Oilspill Battery]

as for
"For decades, follow-up studies of transgender kids have shown that a substantial majority anywhere from 65 to 94 percent eventually ceased to identify as transgender."
I looked into that quote and found the source isn't very credible. the article in the original research was found says that

"studies included a large cohort of children who today would not be diagnosed with gender dysphoria, gay boys who may have been experimenting with different ways of expressing gender but who were never really transgender in the first place."

“The methodology of those studies is very flawed, because they didn't study gender identity,” said Diane Ehrensaft, director of mental health at UCSF’s Child and Adolescent Gender Clinic. “Those desistors were, a good majority of them, simply proto-gay boys whose parents were upset because they were boys wearing dresses. They were brought to the clinics because they weren't fitting gender norms.”

https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/44...l-research-on-desistance-in-transgender-youth

This seems like a load of shit considering that it doesn't explain who is and isn't a "real" transgender.

You can transition anyone you want, if they stay you're right and if they desist "They weren't real" transgenders.

How do you tell appart "proto gays" from "transgenders" if there's no actual hardline definition of transgender other than self id?

 

[NoonmanR]

There is no one size fits all reason behind troonism. One could simply be autistic and convinced, nay, tricked into believing that they are not a man, one could be a poor example of their sex, and erroneously think this makes them the perfect candidate for the opposite. Or others still could be pressured into it by their friend circles, or imbibe in too much pornography to the point where the question "what would it be like if i was a woman" starts nagging at them in the back of their mind. Hell, some might just do it for the political power it gains them. No matter what the case however, once they start, it will be nigh impossible for you to help them, no matter how much you'd want to. They will either snap out of it on their own or their soul will succumb to the underlying influences.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

When you play with yourself you're jerking off a dude which is gay. If you're playing with a vagina then that solves that problem.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

3 reasons:

1.) Being a man is hard, you're a disposable cog in a machine that doesn't care about you , by contrast being a woman is easy because society is literally built to serve and cater to you. It makes sense that if you feel life has let you down you'd make an attempt (however futile, retarded and pathetic said attempt is) to try and fix things. The problem however is:

2.) Extreme porn addiction. Lack of hobbies or intrests lead to a degeneracy spiral of terminal coombrain and depravity to the point where they disconnect from reality and think all their problems can be fixed by mutilating and mauling their bodies and genitals.

3.) The above two factors combined with being a weak willed faggot that is unwilling to make real improvements in his own life or attempt to break the degeneracy spiral of cause number 2. This one is just genetic, sorry, no fix here.


Number one is something society needs to fix. And by society I mean men as a whole since they're the ones responsible for any changes in society, including feminism. In a way, troonism is men reaping what they sow.

Number two is something individual men need to fix by themselves for themselves. Being a coombrain with no hobbies is 100% your fault that you can literally fix by deciding to stop being a coombrain.

Number three is something eugenics need to fix, so in a way its a good thing that said men are castrating themselves.


tl;dr

Troonism is a fake solution to a real problem.

 

[Little oak tree]

Number three is something eugenics need to fix, so in a way its a good thing that said men are castrating themselves.


tl;dr

Troonism is a fake solution to a real problem.

So I don't understand, if they are castrating themselves out of existence why isn't troonism the solution?
Without them filthy fags it wouldn't matter the world is a brutal machine because there would only be stoic white knights left, same with number two, doesn't happen in chadland.
So what's the problem chap?

 

[ICametoLurk]

If you have 99999999999999999+ IQ you can just give Sperm away and don't need to have sex with a woman.

Troons are either eXterme dumb like Chris-Chan or super-duper smart like how every programmer for a computer company is a Troon.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

So I don't understand, if they are castrating themselves out of existence why isn't troonism the solution?
Without them filthy fags it wouldn't matter the world is a brutal machine because there would only be stoic white knights left, same with number two, doesn't happen in chadland.
So what's the problem chap?

The problem is that society is a shit place for men regardless of whether or not troons exist. Even when the last troon off itself society will still require fixing because the alternative to trooning is usually suicide or complete withdrawl.

 

[Cool Dog]

Most mtf troonies used to be at the very bottom of the men hierarchy

At the same time even the dullest among them can see that even women at the bottom of the hierarchy have it better than them. This isnt news to anyone who knows something about history, is just that certain things have changed

In old times these bottom of the barrel men simply died and nobody gave a fuck, but now all they have to do is say they are women and they shoot up to the top of the victimhood pyramid

Grass is always greener.

Boys think girls have it easy because they can use their sex. Boy becomes girl. Boy/girl has no power because he doesn't really have the sex appeal. Boy/girl kill zirself because their plan failed.

Girls think boys have it easy because they are male. Girl becomes boy. Girl/boy has no power because they are female. Girl/boy kills zimself.

Most mtf troons say they dont wanna quit because for the first time in their lives somebody at least pretends to give a shit about them

Meanwhile all ftm troons go into massive depression after becoming skinnyfat balding manlets because they actually believed the patriarchy was real

 

[Backinpogform]

3 reasons:

1.) Being a man is hard, you're a disposable cog in a machine that doesn't care about you , by contrast being a woman is easy because society is literally built to serve and cater to you. It makes sense that if you feel life has let you down you'd make an attempt (however futile, retarded and pathetic said attempt is) to try and fix things. The problem however is:

This is demonstrably untrue. From seatbelts to treadmills, absolutely everything is built for a male median. Regardless of my own opinion on female soldiers? The horror stories of what happens to their bodies by wearing male gear is like, Cronenberg shit

EDIT: Effed up my quote

 

[Oilspill Battery]

This is demonstrably untrue. From seatbelts to treadmills, absolutely everything is built for a male median. Regardless of my own opinion on female soldiers? The horror stories of what happens to their bodies by wearing male gear is like, Cronenberg shit

"The gear we give to people we send off to die in the frontlines is primarily designed to fit men. This is proof society hates women."

Your comment is so unbelievably retarded I can't tell if its meant to be satire or not, so I apologize in advance if it actually was meant to be satire and I took it seriously.

 

[Backinpogform]

"The gear we give to people we send off to die in the frontlines is primarily designed to fit men. This is proof society hates women."

Your comment is so unbelievably retarded I can't tell if its meant to be satire or not, so I apologize in advance if it actually was meant to be satire and I took it seriously.

Regardless of my own opinion on female soldiers

Calm down mate, all I said was things are built with the average man in size (like seatbelts or phones) I said nothing about “society hating women” or anything of the like.