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Why do you like anime? - And why is it popular
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Why is that bad? Some periods in history were relatively black and white, like WW2, but even then the allies (very reluctantly) teamed up with commies to defeat Hitler, to the point of shipping dissidents back to them to get killed after the war. Western betrayal was the black mark on the allies' victory. There is always moral complexity going on. Maybe people have matured enough that they want to explore life more fully. You even describe the alternative as (cape)shit.
Man, you would have hated the early 20th century. Even in peacetime, try a shift in a 1920s factory for mechanistic routine. Coal miners shovelled coal for 8 hours down a pit.
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Is "The lack of Jews" an acceptable answer.
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Because relativism, nihilism, and "da villain is acktchually da good guy" is not the same thing as moral complexity. The work of hacks like Alan Moore or Hideo Kojima are really just Machiavelli or Nietszche for kids.
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Machiavelli was an incredibly astute author and political commentator and people should read him (though obviously his writing on war and politics is about warlords in early modern Italy and classical Rome, not the present day). He was tortured by the Medicis, so he had a lot of bitter personal experience with the people he was writing about. He never claimed that despotic rulers were actually the good guys, either, just that it's better to be feared than loved if you can't have both, in the context of a time when cardinals had people assassinated on the regular and most of Europe was run by tyrants. The Discourses on Livy go into more detail on what he actually thought good governance should be.
Nietzsche was an insane virgin, but he did actually offer some decent insight into how political radicalism arose in Europe after the "death of God" and decline of the religious fundamentalism that led to the 30 years' war and treaty of Westphalia back in the 17th century. This culminated in the French revolution and then subsequently communism and fascism hundreds of years later. He wasn't really that nihilistic either, more about how people had to make their own meaning from life when nothing was ordained.
Now, the "for kids" bit I do have issue with, but that's also my problem with anime.
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Okay, let me clarify:
I didn't mean Machiavelli and Nietszche have nothing to say. I meant that their ideas get rehashed in pop culture, and said pop culture authors get credit for Machiavelli and Nietszche's ideas as their own.
As for "for the kids", I mean it's dumbed down, like a Children's Bible but for edgy philosophers.
Part of the reason I gave up on Game of Thrones is that the whole theme of Realpolitik was hopelessly cynical; everyone's corrupt and scheming, you can't change the system, and everyone you put your hope in is gonna get clapped, so why even bother?
There's enough bleakness in Clown World IRL. I'm not looking for more reminders of Clown World. Ambiguities, trade-offs, and sacrifices in storytelling do not require everything to be all grimdark all the time.
One of the reasons humans have stories is to inspire people to confront and overcome adversity. As Neil Gaiman once wrote, "Fairy tales are, in a sense, more true; not because they tell us dragons are real, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten".
I get the point of gritty realism and that the good guys don't always win. Blood Meridian is one of my favorite novels. But pop culture these days seems incapable of any nuance between binary capeshit and angsty, woe-is-everything grimdark.
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- 9 de Jul, 2020
First off, I don't like all anime. I think a lot of it is garbage that's mass-produced for limp wristed nerds who want to overindulge in their isekai power fantasies and fap to anime girls all day.
That said, occasionally, you find a good one with a complex story and characters that can entertain. It also helps that nowadays there is way, way less Globohomo and shit in anime than in western media. If there are minority characters, they aren't treated as some special shit based on their skin tone, they're just characters like anyone else.
That said, you're more likely to enjoy manga than anime. There is a lot of really great shit out there that has no hope of ever being animated because it, "doesn't appeal to the current demographic of anime watchers".
That said, occasionally, you find a good one with a complex story and characters that can entertain. It also helps that nowadays there is way, way less Globohomo and shit in anime than in western media. If there are minority characters, they aren't treated as some special shit based on their skin tone, they're just characters like anyone else.
That said, you're more likely to enjoy manga than anime. There is a lot of really great shit out there that has no hope of ever being animated because it, "doesn't appeal to the current demographic of anime watchers".
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Game of Thrones also just turned plain bad as it went on. Even people who actually liked the series hated the last series. I wouldn't say that realpolitik was a bad decision for the writers, though. The mediaeval and early modern periods were full of that sort of behaviour, like the 100 years' war in which England repeatedly tried and failed to secure the throne of France, aided by the Burgundians - so French people were helping England fight France. That doesn't mean GOT was a well written show (reviews bombed hard towards the end), but the basic themes were fine for the setting they were trying to represent.
From what I gather, the bad guys didn't win in GOT anyway. All the villains ended up dead at the end.
True. I don't like anime, but some older gekiga comics are alright, like Mizuki Shigeru's cartoon history of Japan during the Showa era.
From what I gather, the bad guys didn't win in GOT anyway. All the villains ended up dead at the end.
True. I don't like anime, but some older gekiga comics are alright, like Mizuki Shigeru's cartoon history of Japan during the Showa era.
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I should also add that it got too complicated for me. I read the books and quit about halfway through A Storm of Swords. I couldn't keep the characters straight, whether it was Jon traipsing around north of the Wall with wildlings or some hadji trying to get in bed with Daenerys. I just lost interest.
But yeah, when it had become mainstream by Season 7 and 8, I came to outright loathe it. Call me a nerd or a hipster all you want, there's truth to the "popular, therefore ruined" meme.
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As I said, the end of Game of Thrones wasn't well received anyway. You're really not alone in getting tired of it, just for different reasons.
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Oh I don't doubt that. Crappy as it is, the modern world (at least before Current Year) is an improvement over the past. Earth has always been a hellish world - at least since agriculture. If humans weren't so prone towards evil, it wouldn't be so bad.
But at least morality in the modern world versus morality in the past shows there may be hope for improvement.
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I'd recommend Constant Battles: Why We Fight by Steven LeBlanc on this. Before agriculture, life was hard too. Populations would grow to the limits of the land to support them, and then tribal war would break out. Only modern agriculture finally fixed this problem.
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How far back did it say that population growth wars problem went?
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A big part of the appeal of anime is the continuity (ie not episodic). There didn't used to be the range of high-quality live-action TV shows that exists today.
I got into anime when I was still a kid. I liked anime compared to American cartoons for this reason (prefer longer storyline). That, and I've never found American cartoons funny. I preferred the more serious tone of (some) anime.
I got into anime when I was still a kid. I liked anime compared to American cartoons for this reason (prefer longer storyline). That, and I've never found American cartoons funny. I preferred the more serious tone of (some) anime.
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Before civilisation. Chimpanzees fight tribal wars.
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Yeah why can't they have their identity revolve over a non sexual romantic relationship with a fictional underage duck like a normal person?
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Seems humans are a pretty crappy species then.
But not all are bad, and humans can make pretty good art.
And back on topic, I think anyone can make anime or manga style art - they need not be something "only Japanese can make".
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Given it's largely a ripoff of Disney art anyway, yes, absolutely. Ever wonder why they draw so many of the characters as white people with big eyes? Because they're copying Disney. The actual Japanese art tradition, drawing people who actually look Japanese, is very different.
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In general I think animation is a potentially wonderful medium for telling stories that otherwise might not be able to be seen otherwise. Unfortunately due to Walt Disney, animation in the west is largely seen as kid's stuff or low brow comedy material. So if you want an animated story that is for regular adults, there isn't much outside of anime you can get into.