Why do you like anime? - And why is it popular

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To tack onto @Syaoran Li's post into the future, I am one of those older fans who grew up in that time frame and the geographical area he was talking about, and to summarize everything I've said to @Longcat, to witness that era first hand was inspirational. That was the time when Hollywood and the entertainment industry had to deal with the situation when comics, animation, and video games had just as equal, if not more sway and public appeal on par with TV shows and movies, and fucked with all the censors because the moral watchdogs couldn't touch them because of the money and public appeal for doing things that weren't regulated to be bastardized "kid safe and family friendly".

To lay myself bare for a bit, I am an artist. I enjoy art. I work with art. I enjoy learning about the history of art. I also don't agree entirely with everything society thinks, because much of the time, there's always something hypocritical and absurd going on that runs contrary to where they claim they put their money where their mouths are. I like anime, because I've seen more art and skill applied to it and spread to the world in application than any of the ass sniffing artsy fartsy hoity toity "art makes me special and better" exceptional dipshits who are crying in woe about how the world doesn't appreciate art, but never does anything to tackle this dilemma that is only exacerbated by their own absurd ignorance. Yes, nothing is perfect; I know all about Japan's economic and business culture, from its highs to its lows; I know about series whose staff are so uninspired that don't really fucking care about what they put out, and I am well aware of corporate soullessness and its corruptive greed and malign influences. I honestly don't care though, because nothing is entirely certain or perfect in the world, and life is what you make it. I've also never been to Japan yet, but I guess for all of life's mysteries and blessings, I'll take it that I'm probably better for it until the opportunity comes.

I am also a video game hobbyist who plays a lot of more "obscure" video games, and I grew up way more with Japanese made games; nothing personal, but aside from splitting hairs and explaining myself, that's where I get my anime experience from too. Again, I am old- I grew up in that age before the minecrafts and the fortnites and the call of duties, and have been out of the mainstream for a while. I grew up "retro" or whatever. Played arcade games and emulators and burnt out around 2010-ish.

And if you were wondering, no, I don't like anime simply because it's Japanese. And I honestly don't get where people think that anime is specifically Japanese. I dunno. I'm probably too tired of people not using their brains and not thinking hard enough about our constitutional rights and what that means for our human condition. We're also on a thread that is talking about anime, so I don't need to explain anything more.

So oi, life is all about perspective, mate.


Yes. Yes it does. Not the hipster wojak fuckery of "lol anything animated is anime", but if it's in the style and spirit, it kinda is. Most attempts tend to miss out on the latter though.

Again, it's not wrong for anywhere else to create their own anime, but I can't guarantee that copy and pasting sitcoms or primetimes and prettying them up with an anime veneer is a sure fire way for success. Anime already has its own cultural impressions and baggage wherever it goes, and what works with fans and what the fans have built up in expectation and enjoyment in the fan community is what thrives. I believe understanding that as a foundation and building off of that is the only way that thrives, but I'm just speculating.

I've always felt that problem was a western thing. You know, the whole intellectuallism versus physical stoicism thing, western society's emphasis on being "real", the whole expected life cycle where you're supposed to have a nuclear family thing and you're supposed to lose your virginity by 18, etc. Not to say for all of them, but most Japanese people tend to not give a shit by general value of sex is natural and they also know how to keep that under wraps, and as long as you're not being a neet or otaku you can be into anime. Not that the whole "lol virgin" thing doesn't exist out there, but that kind of stuff is more ingrained with greater divides in specifically what you enjoy than how you enjoy it, and the whole interests hierarchy out west.

You're right in that it shouldn't be in everything, but at the same time, I don't trust the idea that things should be toned down simply to garner more appeal.

Really? I heard that after he aired Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, his tune changed when the Oscars gave him a special kid's award despite Snow White moving people to tears.
Good post my dude.

So I would say that even if Walt had a change of heart around or after Snow White: the damage was already done. There was no real competition after that point, so Walt could afford to ease off the gas a bit. Unlike Vince however, Walt had no WCW esque competition, with Warner pretty much settling for the small screen, leaving Disney the king of Big Screen animation. So the only person doing adult animation is really Bashki in the 70's. Even if we give Walt a pass, his corporate creation held animation back in the west for at LEAST 50 years, in large part due to the masterful branding and power of Disney Co.
 
A nation which loves its culture so much and does everything it can to portray its splendor is something not seen anywhere else to the extent as with Japan. Their love of their own nation or civilisation state is what made me love anime and from then on - the rest of Japan.
 
I like 80's aka economic boom Japan era anime, but after that, the number of titles I like can be counted on two hands at best. It just went places I hadn't seen animation go at that point and a real feel of letting the artists do what they wanted without as much monetary worry. Obviously, this was a mistaken impression, but the fact it could impress like that is still worth praise.
 
"One question I'd like to ask is the idea going around fans that anime was going to experience some kind of popularity boom in the 2020s."

Not at all, the entire Japanese pop culture industry from film, television, anime and music has been on a steep decline for decades now. The entire industry now relies on niche whales who will buy all the expensive merch over widespread audience acceptance. They've gone the GW warhammer route for the entire industry.

Great article series on it from a decade ago and it's largely only gotten worse.
 
I don't have much choice. I'm not really even that into anime, but it's practically the only decent way to watch a show. I'm not even just talking about how woke everything has become, even older stuff is just boring. Watching 24, Prison Break, etc puts me to sleep.

I really can't think of many shows I like. Early Walking Dead, Star Trek TNG/DS9, and Tim & Eric (Adult Swim) come to mind. I'd really have to think beyond that.

With anime there's also a sea of trash to sift through, but when you find something good it's amazing, like Death Note. I get criticized as a "weeb" by people who hate anime, and as a "fake anime fan/filthy casual" for mostly just watching mainstream stuff like DBZ. Sorry I don't like obscure things I don't know exist and couldn't even pronounce if I did.
 
I really like the animation style, I find much Western animation to be so ugly it's almost a visual and sensory assault and only suitable for satire and comedy. I also like how common urban fantasy type situations are but it's not just chicklit smut novels like in the West. I love supernatural creatures and pretty things. I also like the sincerity of a lot of the characters which would be mocked here bc we are so cynical.
 
Most anime makes me cringe to high hell but I fucking love Neon Genesis: Evangelion and I'll take suggestions of any other anime with that more low-key style, none of that weird weeb shit. Attack on Titan was cool but it was too much sadboy shit for me.
 
Anime are super fucking cringe.

I tried watchin them unironically and... Jesus fuck.
In my limited anime experience I've found there's a direct correlation between how few waifus there are and how cringe a given anime is.

In something like One Punch Man there's, like, one psychokinetic waifu and the show's pretty alright because it doesn't take itself too seriously and it plays with genre tropes. In Cowboy Bebop women are only around when they have a narrative purpose.

That's the problem though, the people who most consistently consume and spend money on anime are legitimately autistic speds who need fetishistic material constantly to activate their dulled autistic senses, so anyone who actually wants to make something that uses the medium to its maximum potential without having an erection the entire time gets pushed off to the wayside. They just aren't as profitable.
 
One appeal with anime, is that there hasn't been as many cases of series running themselves into the ground, due to poor sequels/later releases, compared to all of the various Western media (and not just TV and movies) that fell victim to this. And the list is massive, which includes:

  • The Last of Us (due to TLOU2)
  • Star Wars (Disney Sequels)
  • Game of Thrones (Season 8)
  • LOST (a very terrible and pointless ending)
  • How I Met Your Mother (bad ending)
  • Mass Effect (ME3's ending, and ME:Andromeda)
  • Star Trek (later adaptations)
  • Battlefield (2042, V to a certain extent, BF4's terrible launch, BF Hardline)
  • Halo (the poor later games, as well as the TV adaptation abomination)
  • Blizzard's games (sexual harassment/assault accusations, older staff leaving the game, Activision's acquisition making them more focused on the $$$, the forced E-Sports pushes, drinking the Woke Koolaid)
  • Magic: The Gathering (same reasons as Blizzard, for the most part)
Compared to anime, aside from Attack on Titan #139, and maybe Danganronpa V3's divisive ending, how many times has a series ran itself into the ground, and out of relevance?
 
One appeal with anime, is that there hasn't been as many cases of series running themselves into the ground, due to poor sequels/later releases, compared to all of the various Western media (and not just TV and movies) that fell victim to this. And the list is massive, which includes:

  • The Last of Us (due to TLOU2)
  • Star Wars (Disney Sequels)
  • Game of Thrones (Season 8)
  • LOST (a very terrible and pointless ending)
  • How I Met Your Mother (bad ending)
  • Mass Effect (ME3's ending, and ME:Andromeda)
  • Star Trek (later adaptations)
  • Battlefield (2042, V to a certain extent, BF4's terrible launch, BF Hardline)
  • Halo (the poor later games, as well as the TV adaptation abomination)
  • Blizzard's games (sexual harassment/assault accusations, older staff leaving the game, Activision's acquisition making them more focused on the $$$, the forced E-Sports pushes, drinking the Woke Koolaid)
  • Magic: The Gathering (same reasons as Blizzard, for the most part)
Compared to anime, aside from Attack on Titan #139, and maybe Danganronpa V3's divisive ending, how many times has a series ran itself into the ground, and out of relevance?
Lol you havent heard of konami
 
Most anime makes me cringe to high hell but I fucking love Neon Genesis: Evangelion and I'll take suggestions of any other anime with that more low-key style, none of that weird weeb shit. Attack on Titan was cool but it was too much sadboy shit for me.
There's low key stuff each season, problem is its low key so unless you look for it, you're not going to see it.
That being said, I don't really know how Eva got this status when its very anime. The angel designs, Asuka and Rei being some of the biggest examples of "classic" waifu archetypes, even the "mysterious slightly homosexual white haired pretty boy" has been used over and over again since. Sure, one could say its self aware, but so is a lot of anime.
I could understand if it were Gundam, but Eva?
 
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There's low key stuff each season, problem is its low key so unless you look for it, you're not going to see it.
That being said, I don't really know how Eva got this status when its very anime. The angel designs, Asuka and Rei being some of the biggest examples of "classic" waifu archetypes, even the "mysterious slightly homosexual white haired pretty boy" has been used over and over again since. Sure, one could say its self aware, but so is a lot of anime.
I could understand if it were Gundam, but Eva?
Maybe it helps to understand that I haven't watched anything other than Evangelion, Death Note, and some Ghibli films.

I had friends in jr HS obsessed with Hetalia so I'm acutely aware of that, and that shit is wildly gay. Someone showed me Angel Beats and said it was the best thing ever. That was retarded.

I guess I like some sophistication without a shitload of absolutely ridiculous scenarios that seem based on fetishes. Anime tropes don't bother me. If schoolgirls with guns is an anime trope then God help you.
 
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